Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[Pib]

And please note the feyree stores on Lazada and Shopee have prices that can vary greatly from day to day....from week to week...etc.   A charger one day may sell for 9500 baht and the next day/week may go for 6000 baht.   

 

And I'm preaching to the choir to those who use Lazada a lot "and collect the discount coupons/vouchers, Coins, etc.," which can result in some big discounts sometimes.  Additionally, the Lazada mobile app is much, much better to use compared to the Lazada web browser site due to the additional discounts/coupons/etc., available on the mobile app.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Pib said:

And please note the feyree stores on Lazada and Shopee have prices that can vary greatly from day to day....from week to week...etc.   A charger one day may sell for 9500 baht and the next day/week may go for 6000 baht.   

 

And I'm preaching to the choir to those who use Lazada a lot "and collect the discount coupons/vouchers, Coins, etc.," which can result in some big discounts sometimes.  Additionally, the Lazada mobile app is much, much better use compared to the Lazada web browser site due to the additional discounts/coupons/etc., available on the mobile app.

Yep...🤗

[JBChiangRai]

5 hours ago, carlyai said:

Hi, don't quite understand. 🙂

The connector on the charger is male, the connector on the car is female, so plug the male charger cable into the female extension, then the male extension goes into the car.

(making me all horny now with this dirty talk).

Why won't they lock together?

 

 

 

There is no locking mechanism present on any of the cables 😞

 

 

[Pib]

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

11 hours ago, Pib said:

 

 

Thanks for that.  I bought 2 of these M to F charging cables 3 years ago for use on EA Anywhere AC sockets, one single and one 3 phase.  I’ve never used them.

[vinny41]

U Power Showcases EV Battery Swap in Thailand

U Power unveiled its UOTTA battery swap station at the 2025 Bangkok Motor Show.

The station will soon operate in Phuket, serving electric taxis and hailing vehicles.

https://theevreport.com/u-power-showcases-ev-battery-swap-in-thailand

 

I have seen pictures on Facebook vehicle looks like MG EP or ES

[JBChiangRai]

Battery swapping makes a lot of sense for taxis.

 

We keep the phone numbers of grab drivers running EV’s.  The airport run is much more relaxing in an EV.

[JBChiangRai]

Akio Toyoda got it wrong, …..again.

 

First he said EV’s will never catch on, and they did.

 

Then he said their market share will never exceed 30%.
 

More than 30% of cars on the road in Norway are now EV’s and EV market share of new cars is 94%.
 

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15heypahFB/

[vinny41]

13 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Akio Toyoda got it wrong, …..again.

 

First he said EV’s will never catch on, and they did.

 

Then he said their market share will never exceed 30%.
 

More than 30% of cars on the road in Norway are now EV’s and EV market share of new cars is 94%.
 

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15heypahFB/

he was refering to global share of market 

Akio Toyoda, Toyota's chairman, has publicly stated that he believes battery electric vehicles (BEVs) will never exceed 30% of the global automotive market share. He argues that factors like limited access to electricity in some regions, the cost of EVs, and the need for charging infrastructure make it unlikely that they will dominate the market

As for why, Toyoda points to around a billion people in the world who live without access to electricity, for whom he says it doesn’t make sense to limit their choices and ability to travel with expensive BEVs.

https://www.teslarati.com/toyota-evs-30-percent-market-share/

 

[JBChiangRai]

To be accurate Vinny, he didn't use the word "globally". What he said was...

In a recent statement, former Toyota CEO and current chairman Akio Toyoda has doubled down once again in a statement on the automaker’s media site, saying that he thinks BEVs will never overtake gas cars, and predicting that they’ll only reach about a 30-percent market share

 

I accept he did say there are around a billion people who have no access to electricity, however, I suggest that if they have no access to electricity, they are unlikely to be able to buy and fuel one of his Hydrogen cars and probably can't afford a new car of any type.

 

More nonsense from your link...

Toyota has said that it expects to produce more hydrogen vehicles than solid-state BEVs by 2030, highlighting the company’s continued focus on hydrogen fuel cells as a potential path to carbon neutrality.

[carlyai]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Battery swapping makes a lot of sense for taxis.

 

We keep the phone numbers of grab drivers running EV’s.  The airport run is much more relaxing in an EV.

Saw an article last year about large EV trucks having a battery swap centre near the middle of their journey. Not sure how it's going.

[wadman]

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

he was refering to global share of market 

Akio Toyoda, Toyota's chairman, has publicly stated that he believes battery electric vehicles (BEVs) will never exceed 30% of the global automotive market share. He argues that factors like limited access to electricity in some regions, the cost of EVs, and the need for charging infrastructure make it unlikely that they will dominate the market

As for why, Toyoda points to around a billion people in the world who live without access to electricity, for whom he says it doesn’t make sense to limit their choices and ability to travel with expensive BEVs.

https://www.teslarati.com/toyota-evs-30-percent-market-share/

 

 

If you don't have access to electricity, you live in a very poor area, and are unlikely to be able to afford any kind of car. For the (very) small percentage that can, they can always install solar panels on their roof to power their EV.

 

Not every EV is expensive. China sells the seagull for under 8k USD (in China). Seagull + solar panels (without tariffs) probably makes car ownership more financially accessible than an ICE car in very poor areas.

[wadman]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Battery swapping makes a lot of sense for taxis.

 

We keep the phone numbers of grab drivers running EV’s.  The airport run is much more relaxing in an EV.

 

Battery swapping also makes a lot of sense for electric scooters. In China, the delivery companies run their own swapping stations. It's hole-in-the-wall type of setups. One of their drivers pull in, battery gets swapped in about 1 minute.

[vinny41]

36 minutes ago, wadman said:

 

If you don't have access to electricity, you live in a very poor area, and are unlikely to be able to afford any kind of car. For the (very) small percentage that can, they can always install solar panels on their roof to power their EV.

 

Not every EV is expensive. China sells the seagull for under 8k USD (in China). Seagull + solar panels (without tariffs) probably car ownership more financially accessible than an ICE car in very poor areas.

Countries With The Lowest Access To Electricity

Site lists 10 countries with the % of population that have have access to  Electricity

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-lowest-access-to-electricity.html

The same countries have a combined figure of Motor vehicles 8,755,761

it doesn't give a breakdown of how many cars , trucks or other vehicles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_motor_vehicles_per_capita

According to AI 

While China has made significant strides in electrifying its population, a considerable number of people still lack access to electricity, particularly in rural areas. In 2020, an estimated 483 million people in China were without access, with the majority residing in rural regions.

 

[wadman]

45 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Countries With The Lowest Access To Electricity

Site lists 10 countries with the % of population that have have access to  Electricity

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-lowest-access-to-electricity.html

The same countries have a combined figure of Motor vehicles 8,755,761

it doesn't give a breakdown of how many cars , trucks or other vehicles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_motor_vehicles_per_capita

According to AI 

While China has made significant strides in electrifying its population, a considerable number of people still lack access to electricity, particularly in rural areas. In 2020, an estimated 483 million people in China were without access, with the majority residing in rural regions.

 

 

These top 10 countries with the lowest percentage of population with access to electricity, they are all in Africa. Very poor countries, but lots of sunshine there. Solar installation+ EV surely makes a lot sense there?

[transam]

3 minutes ago, wadman said:

 

These top 10 countries with the lowest percentage of population with access to electricity, they are all in Africa. Very poor countries, but lots of sunshine there. Solar installation+ EV surely makes a lot sense there?

Light is used to produce the electric, more hours of light, more electric. 🤗

[Bandersnatch]

2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

As for why, Toyoda points to around a billion people in the world who live without access to electricity

 

Can't drive electric as no access to electricity  but apparently no problems finding a pump?

 

 

 

 

[vinny41]

1 hour ago, wadman said:

 

These top 10 countries with the lowest percentage of population with access to electricity, they are all in Africa. Very poor countries, but lots of sunshine there. Solar installation+ EV surely makes a lot sense there?

For example with property prices in Thailand   starting from around B250K upwards and solar installations price ranging from B60,000 upwards i think the largest hurdle is the up front cost for solar

There has been a Residential Solar Project running since 2019  but the latest figures for December 2023 indicates not huge numbers

Due to the persistently high electricity rates in Thailand, people are increasingly turning to solar power. This year, a total of 1,878 applications were successfully submitted for the Residential Solar Project, marking a new record since the project's launch in 2019. The cumulative installed capacity has reached 10.18 MW.

According to official statistics, as of 2023, there have been 8,431 successful grid connections, with a total electricity sales volume of 46.28 MW. Additionally, 2,795 cases are still awaiting activation, and the expected increase in installed capacity is anticipated to be 15.501 MW.

https://www.reccessary.com/en/news/thai-residential-solar-installation-hits-record-electricity-rates-surge

[CLW]

On 7/19/2025 at 11:26 AM, vinny41 said:

For example with property prices in Thailand   starting from around B250K upwards and solar installations price ranging from B60,000 upwards i think the largest hurdle is the up front cost for solar

There has been a Residential Solar Project running since 2019  but the latest figures for December 2023 indicates not huge numbers

Due to the persistently high electricity rates in Thailand, people are increasingly turning to solar power. This year, a total of 1,878 applications were successfully submitted for the Residential Solar Project, marking a new record since the project's launch in 2019. The cumulative installed capacity has reached 10.18 MW.

According to official statistics, as of 2023, there have been 8,431 successful grid connections, with a total electricity sales volume of 46.28 MW. Additionally, 2,795 cases are still awaiting activation, and the expected increase in installed capacity is anticipated to be 15.501 MW.

https://www.reccessary.com/en/news/thai-residential-solar-installation-hits-record-electricity-rates-surge

By the way, there's a new solar program for Thailand in process. It reduces the contact points of currently 10 !!! authorities to one and also eliminates the need for a factory license. Tax benefits and easier feed-in is also part of this initiative.

[Bandersnatch]

45 minutes ago, CLW said:

By the way, there's a new solar program for Thailand in process. It reduces the contact points of currently 10 !!! authorities to one and also eliminates the need for a factory license. Tax benefits and easier feed-in is also part of this initiative.

 

Interesting do you have a link? 

[vinny41]

55 minutes ago, CLW said:

By the way, there's a new solar program for Thailand in process. It reduces the contact points of currently 10 !!! authorities to one and also eliminates the need for a factory license. Tax benefits and easier feed-in is also part of this initiative.

That seems to be aimed at large solar installations 

Under the previous regulations, solar rooftop installations had to seek approval from the DIW if their capacity exceeded 1,000 kW (1 MW), which added time and administrative costs when adopting renewable energy solutions.

Despite the lifting of the factory licensing requirement, other compliance obligations, such as an energy business license (or exemption from an energy business license), a controlled energy production license, and a construction permit, may still apply.

https://www.tilleke.com/insights/thailand-removes-factory-license-requirement-for-solar-rooftop-installations/10/

[vinny41]

Share of Power Generation by Fuel Type 
Jan - May 2025

Renewable energy 1%

Table 5.2-4: Power Generation Classified by Fuel Type (Detail) - Graph

https://www.eppo.go.th/index.php/en/en-energystatistics/electricity-statistic

With the increase numbers of EV and EV bikes I wondered if anyone had done a feasibility study on

Annual Cost of Electricity generation including high and lows where costs maybe affected by shortage of resources due to outside influences such as wars being one example

Annual Cost of Electricity generation per sector 

Annual Income from  Electricity useage per sector

Get the relevant approving authorities to come up with a bare bones solar generation model together with bare bones plus models and that all models are approved to connect to grid for solar surplus

Estimate % of extra  Electricity potential being fed back into the grid and ensuring sufficient infrastructure in place to handle  extra  Electricity

implementation costs of installing bare bones solar generation model to every residental unit in the country

work out funding model of installing bare bones solar generation model to every residental unit in the country

Maybe based on property values below B750K free above B750K using incremental steps

Using bare bones solar generation model buyback model to pay for implementation costs over x number of years and use bare bones solar generation model buyback model for future maintenance and equipment replacement costs

obviously anyone installing bare bones plus models should receive payment over and above the  bare bones buyback model

I just wondered if reduced Electricity costs over someone lifetime would be better value for money instead of a one off payment of B10K under the digital wallet scheme with its restrictions on what if can be used for and what it can't be used for

 

[Bandersnatch]

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

Share of Power Generation by Fuel Type 
Jan - May 2025

Renewable energy 1%

 

Actually 11%

 

Also it's worth noting is that the figures for renewables do not include domestic solar, certainly not all of it. I don't know anyone who has installed solar in Thailand that has been asked to complete any official documentation to record details of their solar installation unless they applying for the feed-in credit. 

 

 

 

[Pib]

One thing for sure is solar panel sales are increasing in the provinices based on the quantity of solar panels I see for sale in large hardware stores like Thaiwasuda, Global House, etc.    The selection and quantity is much larger than 5 years ago.  I figure the majority of the sales is to run agricultural/stationary equipment like water pumps during the day.  

 

Now when it comes to selling solar panels mounted on home roof tops to power homes I've noticed little growth in that segment based on my driving around the country.   And here in my western Bangkok gated moobaan consisting off arounf 800 homes ranging in cost from around Bt7M to over a Bt100M there are very few homes with solar....less than 10 homes...with solar panels mounted on rooftops based on my daily dog walks around the entire moobaan over the years.  People living in my moobaan are predominantly middle-upper to high income folks.  They have the income to install solar but they simply are not doing so for whatever reason(s).

 

 

 

 

 

[CLW]

On 7/22/2025 at 8:09 AM, Bandersnatch said:

 

Interesting do you have a link? 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/power-to-the-people-thailand-plots-solar-rooftop-shake-up

[UWEB]

5 hours ago, CLW said:

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/power-to-the-people-thailand-plots-solar-rooftop-shake-up

Pretty old Story from May.

[mistral53]

On 7/19/2025 at 8:43 AM, vinny41 said:

Countries With The Lowest Access To Electricity

Site lists 10 countries with the % of population that have have access to  Electricity

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-lowest-access-to-electricity.html

The same countries have a combined figure of Motor vehicles 8,755,761

it doesn't give a breakdown of how many cars , trucks or other vehicles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_motor_vehicles_per_capita

According to AI 

While China has made significant strides in electrifying its population, a considerable number of people still lack access to electricity, particularly in rural areas. In 2020, an estimated 483 million people in China were without access, with the majority residing in rural regions.

 

In 2020, an estimated 483 million people in China were without access???????????????

 

The claim that 483 million people in China lacked electricity access in 2020 is likely inaccurate, based on a single, uncorroborated source that may misinterpret energy poverty. Authoritative data from the World Bank, IEA, and others confirm China achieved near-universal electrification by 2015, with 100% access by 2023. While rural areas may face challenges like reliance on biofuels or inconsistent supply, these do not equate to a lack of electricity access for such a vast population. The claim may reflect a psychological drive to critique progress or highlight disparities, but it oversteps empirical evidence. For accurate insights into China’s energy landscape, cross-reference primary data from sources like the World Bank or IEA.

 

The next thing we read is that 750 million people in China have no access to air..........lol

[JBChiangRai]

Shame on anyone ordering a Tesla

 

Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia

 

https://www.reuters.com/investigations/musk-ordered-shutdown-starlink-satellite-service-ukraine-retook-territory-russia-2025-07-25/

[carlyai]

On 7/24/2025 at 11:59 PM, mistral53 said:

In 2020, an estimated 483 million people in China were without access???????????????

 

The claim that 483 million people in China lacked electricity access in 2020 is likely inaccurate, based on a single, uncorroborated source that may misinterpret energy poverty. Authoritative data from the World Bank, IEA, and others confirm China achieved near-universal electrification by 2015, with 100% access by 2023. While rural areas may face challenges like reliance on biofuels or inconsistent supply, these do not equate to a lack of electricity access for such a vast population. The claim may reflect a psychological drive to critique progress or highlight disparities, but it oversteps empirical evidence. For accurate insights into China’s energy landscape, cross-reference primary data from sources like the World Bank or IEA.

 

The next thing we read is that 750 million people in China have no access to air..........lol

We lived in China for a year at a University City about 90km from Bejing where I taught undergraduates maths (not much you can teach Chinese about maths).

Used to ride around on our bikes to the local villages. All small houses with a central compound shared toilet, but all had electricity. 

[josephbloggs]

Saw my first MG IM6 today. Wow, looks great. And the spec is amazing! Anyone buying one?

https://www.mgcars.com/en/cars/mg-im6