CLW Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: BYD Seal spotted at Rama 2 . Available in other colours ???? Hope it's available rather soon here before I place my order for MG 4. Looking forward to Motorshow end of March for some updates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry2109 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Does anybody have some information about Zeekr 001 in Thailand? Like where and when it is available, price in Baht etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistral53 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: BYD Seal spotted at Rama 2 . Available in other colours ???? Looks like my prayers have been answered......... great news! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, henry2109 said: Does anybody have some information about Zeekr 001 in Thailand? Like where and when it is available, price in Baht etc. No RHD version yet, so not anytime soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I am hoping to see the BYD Han Performance and/or ORA Lightning Cat Performance (aka ORA Grand Cat Performance) in Thailand this year. We are in the middle of an EV revolution here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: I am hoping to see the BYD Han Performance and/or ORA Lightning Cat Performance (aka ORA Grand Cat Performance) in Thailand this year. We are in the middle of an EV revolution here. We will have to wait and see Personally I think the ev sales will be less than last December as for most people the main issue is cost of battery repair and low capital values on EV especially if your battery needs replacing due to accident within a few weeks of ownership and Insurance company decides to write off vehicle as repair cost exceeds 70% of current value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, vinny41 said: We will have to wait and see Personally I think the ev sales will be less than last December as for most people the main issue is cost of battery repair and low capital values on EV especially if your battery needs replacing due to accident within a few weeks of ownership and Insurance company decides to write off vehicle as repair cost exceeds 70% of current value I have just spent a week or so in Chiang Mai, I was astounded at the number of EV's on the road, I think you're going to be very wrong on the sales volumes this year. I just hope the charging infrastructure can keep up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: I have just spent a week or so in Chiang Mai, I was astounded at the number of EV's on the road, I think you're going to be very wrong on the sales volumes this year. I just hope the charging infrastructure can keep up. As I said we will have to wait any see the Byd atto3 repair costs reach the main news media outlets and they were shocked that a repair bill could exceed the price of a new car and that the replacement battery cost alone was the equivalent price of a Brand new top of the range Nissan Almera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Tea Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Wake me up when the ev pickups come on to the market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted March 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, vinny41 said: As I said we will have to wait any see the Byd atto3 repair costs reach the main news media outlets and they were shocked that a repair bill could exceed the price of a new car and that the replacement battery cost alone was the equivalent price of a Brand new top of the range Nissan Almera According to the owner of the crashed vehicle. Short version is the battery now doesn’t need replacing ( if I understand the translation correctly ) and the ( new ) evaluation is under way . Long version: ” Hello. I am the owner of ATTO3 car that had an accident that was in the news 2-3 days ago. It made the news among BYD car users. It caused discomfort that news in some media and channels made the information not match with reality. I would like to use this space to explain and update everyone. After the car accident I called the insurance company to make a claim and co-ordinated by the service center and the insurance company to check the condition of the car to see if it needs to be changed or fixed so that I can get a quote according to the insurance process. The parts were also provided by the insurance company and the service team of technicians from the team. I was contacted by the insurance company. Got my damage summary from the service center. As you can see from the photos released. The insurance company said it would be a reimbursement. But I'm not comfortable because there are many items with high value. I don't want them to be reimbursements. So I consulted with my friends in the industry for advice. Which thanks to PricezaMoney for making me more understand in the insurance process that prices shouldn't be that high because some things may never need to be changed or repaired. Makes me feel more comfortable. After the clip has been released, I still keep track of my car. I was constantly contacted by the Reve team and the dealer intermittently to explain the reason. The first thing is the battery price that was in the wrong system. So Reve has announced to me and everyone knows the real price as soon as they know the information. Actually the car battery has more advanced technology than the battery in other device. Making the price high. PS. I can understand this. And for my own car. There are some scratches. Very few but I want to make sure it's safe. After a thorough technical inspection, it's explained that the BYD 1 pack has a multi-layer structural battery parts cover box with a tight seal. High safety. Slight damage on the outer shell, no impact on usage. N makes me more confident After a thorough inspection, my case definitely no battery replacement. Only the other parts to replace. No insurance refund from the preliminary data I was worried. To clear everything up. As the initial news was out, only the preliminary price info is worth replacing battery and all other parts. And battery price is still not correct. Concerns many ATTO3 users. I have to say that all this time, I have been impressed by BYD ATTO 3. It is one of the very good cars I have used. So I want to come out and explain the story to everyone. And I don't want to be misunderstood with the price shared in the media. And I have been very cooperated. The information was satisfactory. It made me feel more confident and satisfied. And I hope that all my friends and brothers will understand the story correctly. So I would like to use the page space to point out. Jong and thank you to the page and all members friends. “ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, vinny41 said: As I said we will have to wait any see the Byd atto3 repair costs reach the main news media outlets and they were shocked that a repair bill could exceed the price of a new car and that the replacement battery cost alone was the equivalent price of a Brand new top of the range Nissan Almera There is an eight year warranty on the battery so hardly any issue (except a crash). Do some research before you post something to discredit EVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Yorkshire Tea said: Wake me up when the ev pickups come on to the market... https://electrek.co/2022/12/16/toyota-shows-off-its-first-battery-electric-pickup-truck/ https://www.nationthailand.com/business/automobile/40021164 https://www.newsdirectory3.com/ea-launches-thailands-first-electric-pickup-truck-with-fast-battery-charging-taking-only-15-minutes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, CLW said: There is an eight year warranty on the battery so hardly any issue (except a crash). Do some research before you post something to discredit EVs Keeps repeating that speal. Guess he didn't notice the FL, USA crash in the news, where a Tesla was hit so hard it split in half, and the battery bank wasn't compromised. As I stated already, if hit hard enough to compromise the battery bank, then there's already probably enough damage, (bent frame), for total write off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, CLW said: There is an eight year warranty on the battery so hardly any issue (except a crash). Do some research before you post something to discredit EVs I have already done my research thanks and if you do the same you will see loads of people have similar concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 54 minutes ago, vinny41 said: I have already done my research thanks and if you do the same you will see loads of people have similar concerns According to a Bangkok Post article dated oct 17, 2565 BYD offers an 8 year/160000 kilometer warranty on the battery. Does your research contradict that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, placeholder said: According to a Bangkok Post article dated oct 17, 2565 BYD offers an 8 year/160000 kilometer warranty on the battery. Does your research contradict that? My post was related to BYD cost of repairing a car that was involved in an accident I have yet to see any warranty papework that states the warranty includes replacement if vehicle is subject to an accident. Does the article mention that if removal and replacement of the entire battery unit from a Byd Atto3 cost more than the total price of a Top of the range Nissan almera and cash back in your pocket Edited March 7, 2023 by vinny41 add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, vinny41 said: My post was related to BYD cost of repairing a car that was involved in an accident I have yet to see any warranty papework that states the warranty includes replacement if vehicle is subject to an accident. Does the article mention that if removal and replacement of the entire battery unit from a Byd Atto3 cost more than the total price of a Top of the range Nissan almera and cash back in your pocket It has nothing to do with battery or being an EV or ICE car. It's simply the assessed damage by the insurance company after a crash plus the write off or current value of your car and possible salvage value. Example: you have an expensive S-Class, that is damaged at the rear by tailgating of a truck or heavy vehicle. The frame structure is bent and beyond repair. Yet the engine is fully functional. It's certainly not covered by the Mercedes warranty, too. But you won't have financial disadvantages with first class insurance. Would you then also say the S-Class is a bad car or blame the insurance company for being unfair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, vinny41 said: My post was related to BYD cost of repairing a car that was involved in an accident I have yet to see any warranty papework that states the warranty includes replacement if vehicle is subject to an accident. Does the article mention that if removal and replacement of the entire battery unit from a Byd Atto3 cost more than the total price of a Top of the range Nissan almera and cash back in your pocket You're mixing up warranty with responsibility of the insurance. It's up to their costing department to set the premium at a certain value that they can replace a battery for an EV. Same as the repair of an engine from ICE car in case of crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, CLW said: It has nothing to do with battery or being an EV or ICE car. It's simply the assessed damage by the insurance company after a crash plus the write off or current value of your car and possible salvage value. Example: you have an expensive S-Class, that is damaged at the rear by tailgating of a truck or heavy vehicle. The frame structure is bent and beyond repair. Yet the engine is fully functional. It's certainly not covered by the Mercedes warranty, too. But you won't have financial disadvantages with first class insurance. Would you then also say the S-Class is a bad car or blame the insurance company for being unfair? The Inital repair cost for the Byd atto 3 was quoted at B1.2 Million including B900,000 for removing and replacing new battery Here he is being given a repair estimate of B1.2 million now a new standard model cost B1.1 milllion baht more than the cost of a new car which means the battery cost in relation to the whole vehicle is 81% which is unique situation compared to ICE vehicles where no single component part ever exceeds the cost ration of the vehicle by between 30-35% For the owner of the car the problem is also compounded that the capital maximum value of the vehicle was set to B1 million which means the breakpoint at which they scrap of 70% or in the case of a vehicle that has a capital value of B1 million B700,000 which is short of the original cost by B500,000 Personally I think what needs to happe with EV's they need to be insurance under a master policy that covers the EV with execption of the Battery and and the secondary policy covers the battery only And as to Capital value reductions that should happen to the main policy only the secondary policy that covers the battery its capital value should only be reduced if there is a major reduction in the price of batteries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CLW said: You're mixing up warranty with responsibility of the insurance. It's up to their costing department to set the premium at a certain value that they can replace a battery for an EV. Same as the repair of an engine from ICE car in case of crash. I am not mixing up warranty as I my original post never mention warranty as it not relevant in a car that requires repairing due to accident damage If I remember correctly is was yourself that introduced the term 8 year warranty which as i stated not relevant with a vehicle that requires repairing due to accident damage Edited March 7, 2023 by vinny41 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 hours ago, vinny41 said: I am not mixing up warranty as I my original post never mention warranty as it not relevant in a car that requires repairing due to accident damage If I remember correctly is was yourself that introduced the term 8 year warranty which as i stated not relevant with a vehicle that requires repairing due to accident damage All irrelevant, as if the insurance company deems the car a write off or repairable doesn't matter. The 'max' coverage is just that. As long as they pay the covered amount, as with any insurance policy. ICE or EV ... all the same. What are you really trying to state ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 hours ago, vinny41 said: I am not mixing up warranty as I my original post never mention warranty as it not relevant in a car that requires repairing due to accident damage If I remember correctly is was yourself that introduced the term 8 year warranty which as i stated not relevant with a vehicle that requires repairing due to accident damage If it was it self-driving? If so, the warranty should cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 10 hours ago, vinny41 said: The Inital repair cost for the Byd atto 3 was quoted at B1.2 Million including B900,000 for removing and replacing new battery Here he is being given a repair estimate of B1.2 million now a new standard model cost B1.1 milllion baht more than the cost of a new car which means the battery cost in relation to the whole vehicle is 81% which is unique situation compared to ICE vehicles where no single component part ever exceeds the cost ration of the vehicle by between 30-35% For the owner of the car the problem is also compounded that the capital maximum value of the vehicle was set to B1 million which means the breakpoint at which they scrap of 70% or in the case of a vehicle that has a capital value of B1 million B700,000 which is short of the original cost by B500,000 Personally I think what needs to happe with EV's they need to be insurance under a master policy that covers the EV with execption of the Battery and and the secondary policy covers the battery only And as to Capital value reductions that should happen to the main policy only the secondary policy that covers the battery its capital value should only be reduced if there is a major reduction in the price of batteries You're trolling. No one's forcing you to buy an EV. Have a good day and leave this thread alone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 16 hours ago, CLW said: There is an eight year warranty on the battery so hardly any issue (except a crash). Do some research before you post something to discredit EVs No, there is an 8 year warranty OR a quoted mileage.............???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Now here is a ray of light for the future, just what I wanted to see.......... When it happens, tour EV will keep its value with age... Edited March 8, 2023 by transam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, CLW said: You're trolling. No one's forcing you to buy an EV. Have a good day and leave this thread alone Standard response when people are face with diffcult or akward scenarios that they don't want to answer I have made many posts on this thread and the majority have received postive feedback No-one is forcing you to read and reply to my posts there is an ignore button if you want to ignore my posts Edited March 8, 2023 by vinny41 add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 18 hours ago, vinny41 said: My post was related to BYD cost of repairing a car that was involved in an accident I have yet to see any warranty papework that states the warranty includes replacement if vehicle is subject to an accident. Does the article mention that if removal and replacement of the entire battery unit from a Byd Atto3 cost more than the total price of a Top of the range Nissan almera and cash back in your pocket You seem to have missed (or are deliberately ignoring) the post where the owner of the vehicle in question clarifies that the battery was not damaged, didn't need replacing and the replacement cost he had been quoted was wrong anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: You seem to have missed (or are deliberately ignoring) the post where the owner of the vehicle in question clarifies that the battery was not damaged, didn't need replacing and the replacement cost he had been quoted was wrong anyway. Found a recent link https://www.prachachat.net/general/news-1223950https://www.prachachat.net/general/news-1223950 Edited March 8, 2023 by vinny41 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 4:55 PM, JBChiangRai said: I am hoping to see the BYD Han Performance and/or ORA Lightning Cat Performance (aka ORA Grand Cat Performance) in Thailand this year. We are in the middle of an EV revolution here. With the BYD Han being offered in Europe for 72.000 Euro (~2,6 million THB) I can't see this car being successful in Thailand. You could easily buy a Tesla, BMW EV or one of the upcoming Honda or Nissan EV SUVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 The MG ES , the confusing new name for the updated EP ( also known as EP Minorchange ) is set to be open for reservations on March 13th. Prices estimated at around the 900k mark. https://autolifethailand.tv/mg-es-ep-minorchange-ev-bev-coming-booking-thailand/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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