userabcd Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Lemsta69 said: "rediculous". LOL ???????????? Looks like the all the people disobeying the rules of the road assume no personal responsibility for their law breaking actions just blame it on the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andre0720 Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: But Thailand's roads are among the most dangerous in the world for bikers. This morning, I just saw the 12th accident happened through the years, accidents that I could see from my balcony. Only those that I can see. Chao Fa east, straight road, nothing short of unbelievable. But I saw those with my own eyes. This one this morning, a pick-up truck just stopped blocking the entire left lane. 3 or 4 motorbikes carrying students to school crashed in the back. Blood all over. Police, ambulance, just one regular day in the LOS, land of stultified. Then I heard the truck driver explaining to the police that he had to take something from the back of the truck, because of the rain that had just started. And that he had signaled before that he was..., was, turning, stopping. What did it mean a left signal when there are no roads ahead to turn into. Well just stopping, closing down an entire lane, on a busy road. Because of... some rain... Well, that was his explanation to indicate that he could not be responsible for all of this, right? Then after one hour or so, the mothers got back on their motorbikes, to head to school, for those not in the ambulance. Some mothers had a helmet. Kids, no need for that right.... It is generalized... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Onerak said: So sad. Reading this type stories discourage me to ride my motorcycle in Thailand. Without a helmet it should The victim had not been wearing a protective motorbike helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: And preventing. Number 1 = a police force. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Midnight crash, no helmet, then conclusion is no surprise. Have to wonder what the cause was for the crash. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Typical short ride today... a motorcycle speeding along and leaving Sukhumvit, onto the flyover and the motorway (prohibited traffic), 2 up, guy on back no helmet... I went down onto the Railway line bypass to meet another one coming at me on the wrong carriageway. Too many waiting to happen..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 8 hours ago, AsiaCheese said: RIP - but this accident apparently didn't have anything to do with "Thailand dangerous for motorbikes". Plus he didn't wear a helmet. There are ways of provoking death... sad but he was asking for trouble ..speeding ..no helmet..RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopchan Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 RIP to the deceased I'm looking at the photo and noticed a lot of AN sleuths have assumed he was speeding. The photo was from a news report earlier to which someone posted a video of the actual crash (CCTV). Excessive speed wasn't to blame and there was no other vehicle involve or in fact NEAR the accident so that rule out the Thai bashers from blaming the roads or a conspiracy of other road users. It actually looks like he may have fallen asleep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lopchan said: RIP to the deceased I'm looking at the photo and noticed a lot of AN sleuths have assumed he was speeding. The photo was from a news report earlier to which someone posted a video of the actual crash (CCTV). Excessive speed wasn't to blame and there was no other vehicle involve or in fact NEAR the accident so that rule out the Thai bashers from blaming the roads or a conspiracy of other road users. It actually looks like he may have fallen asleep The deceased is Italian, not Thai. He is named, so is his restaurant, on 103FM local news every hour on the half hour. The restaurant is closing for a couple of days out of respect for him and his loved ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2022 8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: It's not the roads that are dangerous for bikers, it's the incompetent users. Why blame the roads, the roads have no voice to object to your rediculous comments. Road design in a significant facet in the safety or lack thereof in a nations road network. U-Turns are perfect example of poor road design which allow the ‘weak link’ humans to make flawed decisions. The Roads ARE to blame for a lot of the accidents. Or rather, those who design the roads in such a poor manner, with poor layout, poor signage and then there is poor visibility with election posters etc.... Intelligent road design allows for the impact of stupid decisions and actions to be minimised. 8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Riding in an unsafe manner is to blame. Some road users riding intoxicated, drugs and alcohol, poor skills, defective bikes etc are to blame. Agreed, and so are the police and authorities for not doing enough to minimise these issues. 8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Having traveled to 40 countries I find the roads in Thailand suitable for safe journeys. I do too... But I have some firm rules such as never driving at night (outside of the city) on dark (pitch black roads), never riding at night wherever possible (even in the city). Never going out in the evening on my motorcycle (cost I may have a beer) - thus never riding after a beer. Avoiding riding in the rain etc... 8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: I suggest you travel abroad to see other countries and the conditions of their roads. Thailands roads are not terrible, but the much design and layout itself contributes towards hesitancy and the poor decisions its users make, this in turn contributes towards an elevated number of incidents, combined with poor driver training (on none), a total absence of concept of consequence as a result of poor education and awareness towards safety and we see the results. The road designs (layout, surface quality, signage etc) themselves are a facet which contributes towards an elevated number of accidents exacerbated by utter stupid of many road users. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 No helmet... (if reports are correct). Why oh why oh why do people not wear helmets ???? Its sad enough to see so many Thai’s not wearing helmets (and often wearing face-masks)... But to see foreigners who come from countries with a decent safety education, those who are fully aware of how dangerous a simple 25kmh off can be when cracking our head on the ground.... I recently purchased a scooter and thought about getting a new ’suitable open face helmet’ (matching retro style to the scooter) - I looked at ‘half helmets’ but really couldn’t justify the step down in safety.. then I looked at open face retro helmets... but couldn’t justify the fact that I’d be wearing it every time I took the scooter out... So.. I went retro full face (Bell Bullitt).... just that extra layer of face protection. I can’t imagine getting on a motorcycle without a helmet.... RIP to the deceased.... this is the second foreigner (both italian) to pass away on a motorcycle in two days (the other in Rawai Phuket), neither wearing a helmet (although in the Rawai incident I’m not sure it would have made a difference). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) The poor engineering of the roadways is in fact a cause of a number of these accidents. Much more then the old: "it's the cops fault" false narrative. Especially in construction zone areas with lack of proper transition or safely blocking off the construction areas is really lacking. It would just take some training, which I am sure is non existent. Edited May 12, 2022 by bkk6060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Motor bikes only have two wheels. They are inherently more unstable than four-wheeled vehicles. Motorcycles have no external shell or body to protect the driver. Motorcycles are inherently more dangerous than cars, bicycles, buses, trains , planes or walking. They are effectively the most dangerous form of transport available and in Thailand only use as a vehicle of choice due to poverty. There is no real reason to use a Motorcycle- not at all. Most teenagers learn this after their first near miss..Here in Pattaya with taxis so cheap there is no reason to use motorbikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 When will we know which restaurant? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Motor bikes only have two wheels. They are inherently more unstable than four-wheeled vehicles. Motorcycles have no external shell or body to protect the driver. Motorcycles are inherently more dangerous than cars, bicycles, buses, trains , planes or walking. They are effectively the most dangerous form of transport available and in Thailand only use as a vehicle of choice due to poverty. There is no real reason to use a Motorcycle- not at all. Most teenagers learn this after their first near miss..Here in Pattaya with taxis so cheap there is no reason to use motorbikes. How true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidgra Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Onerak said: So sad. Reading this type stories discourage me to ride my motorcycle in Thailand. anybody with half a brain knows that since he is 15 years old.... another superman wannabee who couldn't understand how idiot you are to have a motorbike accident in a country where you can travel full time with a taxi or even a personal driver.... sad but some people are looking into problems more than others... RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidgra Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Jingthing said: I won't post it but the identity of this accident victim has already been been released on a popular FB page. Yes he was a chef and yes I've tasted his food. Condolences to his coworkers, friends, and family. any review ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul545 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I’ve travelled to over 80 countries and lived in Thailand for over 20 years. You are right it is the drivers but not necessarily the ones who die are at fault. It’s the other idiots on the road who cause the accidents and deaths. I’ve stopped using a motorcycle because I don’t feel safe anymore. Over 80% of road deaths are on motorcycles. Safer sat in a car than on an open motorcycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, vidgra said: anybody with half a brain knows that since he is 15 years old.... another superman wannabee who couldn't understand how idiot you are to have a motorbike accident in a country where you can travel full time with a taxi or even a personal driver.... sad but some people are looking into problems more than others... RIP My thoughts entirely- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 59 minutes ago, paul545 said: I’ve stopped using a motorcycle because I don’t feel safe anymore. That's good to hear. Confidence when riding anywhere in the world is so important, if you feel uneasy when riding, well done getting of the roads with your motorcycle. It'll make other road users and our roads a much safer place. Riding a motorcycle is so enjoyable for me. I've been riding since age 10, having the skillset is the key to survival. Incompetence kills riders. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglekott Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 13 hours ago, webfact said: was found face down near a damaged power pole, bleeding heavily. RIP, Italian man. If he was bleeding heavily it would mean that he is still alive, when you die you stop bleeding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Harveyboy said: sad but he was asking for trouble ..speeding ..no helmet..RIP As someone mentioned above, No 1 need is a police force. So speeding, well, just like about everybody else, since there is no police force. No helmet, well, just like about everybody else, since there is no police force. Not easy to identify who or what would be to blame here in this country... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmbkk Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 13 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Motorcycle riding deaths, these accidents happen in every country. They do - but few if any with the frequency of Thailand... We all know the reasons why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 23 hours ago, mikebell said: Number 1 = a police force. That's number 2. Number 1 is education. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 19 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: So.. I went retro full face (Bell Bullitt).... just that extra layer of face protection. Nice lid. I ride with a Bell 500 Classic when I am out on my Bonneville or RE Interceptor, and I wear an Arai when I'm on my other bikes. I much prefer riding with an open faced helmet when I am cruising, makes it so much more enjoyable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidgra Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 18 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: That's good to hear. Confidence when riding anywhere in the world is so important, if you feel uneasy when riding, well done getting of the roads with your motorcycle. It'll make other road users and our roads a much safer place. Riding a motorcycle is so enjoyable for me. I've been riding since age 10, having the skillset is the key to survival. Incompetence kills riders. Confidence is what kills people, your post is so ridiculous that it should even be forbidden for pushing people to be proud to be idiot... poor italian chef, his death won't even help people who know nothing to improve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 19 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: That's good to hear. Confidence when riding anywhere in the world is so important, if you feel uneasy when riding, well done getting of the roads with your motorcycle. It'll make other road users and our roads a much safer place. Riding a motorcycle is so enjoyable for me. I've been riding since age 10, having the skillset is the key to survival. Incompetence kills riders. Other driver's incompetence kills and injures drivers. Accidents happen irrelevant to the skills, confidence or arrogance of any given driver which is why they are called accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter zwart Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/12/2022 at 5:08 AM, AsiaCheese said: RIP - but this accident apparently didn't have anything to do with "Thailand dangerous for motorbikes". Plus he didn't wear a helmet. There are ways of provoking death... And was driving at high speed. Still sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 High speed - no helmet - karma is a bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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