Wisconsin-middle-schoolers-accused-of-sexual-harassment-for-using-wrong-pronouns

[EVENKEEL]

Three students at a Wisconsin middle school are facing allegations of sexual harassment under Title IX after they repeatedly refused to use "they/them" pronouns when addressing a fellow student.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wisconsin-middle-schoolers-accused-of-sexual-harassment-for-using-wrong-pronouns/ar-AAXf87p

 

I have a kid in Thailand and I'd rather educate her here in Thailand then subject her to the loonie tunes in USA. Better education my as*.

[StayinThailand2much]

Seen that a lot in recent TV shows... So, everyone can pick the pronoun now they choose? Can I insist on using the royal we, referring to myself, when travelling to the States?

Edited May 20, 2022 by StayinThailand2much

[OneMoreFarang]

Enjoy!

 

[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

I have a kid in Thailand and I'd rather educate her here in Thailand then subject her to the loonie tunes in USA. Better education my as*.

OK, I'm confused. You live in thailand? Were you considering educating your daughter in the U.S.?

 

But then you found this story and what, changed your mind?

 

I'd euthanize my child before sending them to a thai "school".

 

 

Why do you think so many higher end thais send their kids to school in the U.S. and the U.K.?

 

1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Seen that a lot in recent TV shows...

TV shows? Huh? You do realize these are fictional, and entertainment, right?

 

 

Oh, I see it's from the Washington Examiner. /facepalm

 

The attorneys' letter accused the school district 

 

 

So your beef is with the school district?

 

Honestly one minor incident sets you off? 

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

8 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

I'd euthanize my child before sending them to a thai "school".

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, just wow. I'm speechless.

[OneMoreFarang]

On 5/20/2022 at 6:18 PM, mtls2005 said:

Oh, I see it's from the Washington Examiner. /facepalm

 

The attorneys' letter accused the school district 

 

 

So your beef is with the school district?

 

Honestly one minor incident sets you off? 

Unfortunately that does not happen only in one school or one district. Many schools and universities have more and more crazy ideas like that. And it is getting worse all the time.

 

[LarrySR]

Right wing media sure knows how to trigger the base. 
 

[OneMoreFarang]

5 hours ago, LarrySR said:

Right wing media sure knows how to trigger the base. 
 

Yes, correct.

But sometimes they are right/correct. And sometimes not only the rightwing base should be triggered.

 

In principle I consider myself left of center. And I see a lot of things which the rightwing, and especially the radical rightwing, do wrong.

But I also see things which the radical leftwing do wrong, like above.

I think the problem from many of us left of center is that we often only argue (and/or hate) all those right of us. But I think we should also acknowledge that there are some crazy radical left people and ideas which we should  oppose. And we do ourselves a big favor of we oppose the radical left. Because if we don't speak up then those people on the right will rightfully point to those people on the left (anywhere a little left to radical left) and say: Look at them, they are all crazy like those people who want to be called "they". We should oppose those idiots. And what do people who oppose those crazy radical left-wingers? They vote right.

If the left of center would make clear that we don't want to have anything to do with those radical left then maybe more people would think twice before they vote right. It would be great if they would just vote a little right of the radical left. They should vote for the center or maybe even a little left of center. Because left of center is still right of the radical left.

[Jingthing]

On 5/20/2022 at 8:13 PM, LarrySR said:

Right wing media sure knows how to trigger the base. 
 

Exactly. Their game is "owning the libs" culture wars, and nothing about productive policy proposals.

 

Opinion | Candidates like Doug Mastriano prove GOP is becoming cult or conspiracy - The Washington Post

 

Quote

Is today’s Republican Party primarily a cult of personality or a seditious conspiracy? I can argue either side of that question. But it is clear that the GOP is no longer a political organization or movement in the traditional sense.

 

[LarrySR]

On 5/21/2022 at 1:50 AM, Jingthing said:

Exactly. Their game is "owning the libs" culture wars, and nothing about productive policy proposals.

 

Opinion | Candidates like Doug Mastriano prove GOP is becoming cult or conspiracy - The Washington Post

 

Exactly. The homophobes get their pantys in a bunch over a trans high school kid in some obscure town in Wisconsin so they end up voting for tax cuts for the rich. 

Fact is, these trans kids have a suicide rate 10x the average so the liberals want the school districts to promote tolerance and acceptance but right wing media twists it and convinces the rubes that “Democrats want to turn your little boys into girls!”

 

[EVENKEEL]

10 hours ago, LarrySR said:

Right wing media sure knows how to trigger the base. 
 

So,  do you agree or disagree with the kids getting in trouble for not using correct pronoun or, or are you saying it's all a lie. And, never happened?

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Exactly. Their game is "owning the libs" culture wars, and nothing about productive policy proposals.

 

Opinion | Candidates like Doug Mastriano prove GOP is becoming cult or conspiracy - The Washington Post

 

You didn't address the article, at least do that. Do you agree or disagree with the article. Should people be forced to use certain pronouns?

[EVENKEEL]

On 5/21/2022 at 5:13 AM, LarrySR said:

Exactly. The homophobes get their pantys in a bunch over a trans high school kid in some obscure town in Wisconsin so they end up voting for tax cuts for the rich. 

Fact is, these trans kids have a suicide rate 10x the average so the liberals want the school districts to promote tolerance and acceptance but right wing media twists it and convinces the rubes that “Democrats want to turn your little boys into girls!”

 

So now the trans community gets to change the English language. And you think it's just the far right who objects to this? Any clear thinking adult will object to this regardless of political affiliation.

 

The schools are afraid of being called all the "ist" names so they go along with this farce.

[LarrySR]

 

Same story about ‘pronouns in a Wisconsin school’ is front page news on Fox, NY Post, Daily Mail, Washington Examiner. 
Spreading their daily dose of hate to agitate the “base.”
Imagine that. 
 

Edited May 21, 2022 by LarrySR

[EVENKEEL]

18 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

 

Same story about ‘pronouns in a Wisconsin school’ is front page news on Fox, NY Post, Daily Mail, Washington Examiner. 
Imagine that. 
 

You can't just sweep these stories under a rug and pretend they aren't happening.

[LarrySR]

On 5/21/2022 at 7:37 AM, EVENKEEL said:

 

Jesus preached “love thy neighbor.”

 

Christian conservatives in the USA would likely demonize Jesus as a woke, liberal, Middle Eastern, anti American socialist.

 

Today, Jesus, Mary & Joseph would get more support and be welcomed in the Atheist community before being accepted by MAGA Christians. 

Agreed?
 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

“I have a kid in Thailand and I'd rather educate her here in Thailand then subject her to the loonie tunes in USA. Better education my as*”

 

Good luck with that.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

You can't just sweep these stories under a rug and pretend they aren't happening.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it you who posted a link to this ‘news item’ from msn.com?

 

If that is indeed correct, please explain which rug it is that these stories are being swept under?

[Jingthing]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

You didn't address the article, at least do that. Do you agree or disagree with the article. Should people be forced to use certain pronouns?

I agree to refuse to be troll baited.

[Denim]

Look at that cow over there in the field. It's eating grass.

 

I think using the word ' it ' for those uncomfortable being ' sexually pigeonholed ' would make things a lot simpler.

 

We use it on animals and humans are a kind of animal so ............why not ?

[EVENKEEL]

42 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I agree to refuse to be troll baited.

How is my question troll baiting, either you agree with made up mandatory pronouns or you don't. Very simple.

[EVENKEEL]

On 5/21/2022 at 1:18 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

“I have a kid in Thailand and I'd rather educate her here in Thailand then subject her to the loonie tunes in USA. Better education my as*”

 

Good luck with that.

Do you have kids attending Thai schools? 

[Chomper Higgot]

40 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Do you have kids attending Thai schools? 

Not any more I don’t.

 

Both my children attended what is reputed to be amongst Thailand’s best private schools, paid for by my employer.

 

When the eldest was 8 years old we moved back home for the specific reason of getting them both into public (government) schools.

 

There education at private schools in Thailand was free to us, but at a cost of a balanced and full education to our children.

 

We absolutely made the right decision, as demonstrated by our children’s academic progress.

 

And our experience was with the Thai private schools, I shudder to think of what goes on in Thai government schools.

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

Enjoy!

 

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not any more I don’t.

 

Both my children attended what is reputed to be amongst Thailand’s best private schools, paid for by my employer.

 

When the eldest was 8 years old we moved back home for the specific reason of getting them both into public (government) schools.

 

There education at private schools in Thailand was free to us, but at a cost of a balanced and full education to our children.

 

We absolutely made the right decision, as demonstrated by our children’s academic progress.

 

And our experience was with the Thai private schools, I shudder to think of what goes on in Thai government schools.

 

 

Thank you for sharing, now what's your view on sexual harassment charges filed against grade schoolers for using the wrong pronoun? I bet you've never come against anything so crazy during your kids school years. 

 

I raised one kid in the US and used private schools then.......... for a better education. Now, it would be to avoid the craziness of public education.

 

 

[2009]

On 5/20/2022 at 6:18 PM, mtls2005 said:

I'd euthanize my child before sending them to a thai "school".

Better than sending it to an F'd up American school like the one in the article.

 

And there are some Thai schools that produce students who go on to Oxford and Cambridge.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Thank you for sharing, now what's your view on sexual harassment charges filed against grade schoolers for using the wrong pronoun? I bet you've never come against anything so crazy during your kids school years. 

 

I raised one kid in the US and used private schools then.......... for a better education. Now, it would be to avoid the craziness of public education.

 

 

Harassment and bullying has always been a part of misbehavior in schools, sadly it has not always been investigated or otherwise dealt with.

 

Grade school kids harassing and bullying other grade school kids wrt their gender is troubling behavior.

 

I don’t feel triggered by reports that such behavior is being investigated.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[LarrySR]

On 5/21/2022 at 8:12 PM, 2009 said:

Better than sending it to an F'd up American school like the one in the article.

 

And there are some Thai schools that produce students who go on to Oxford and Cambridge.

The Thais are very tolerant of the ladyboy situation. It's not even an "issue" in Thailand. Having them in the mix is rather pleasant if you ask me. Isn't it nice that a person can be what they want to be here in the land of smiles. 

 

Sadly in the USA, the right wing media has weaponized the intolerant & is intent on keeping the viewers in a tizzy.

This week, the homophobes are losing sleep over "pronouns." Last week it was "bathrooms" that had them popping vessels.

A week before they were all in tears over "cancel culture" & "statues."  In a few more months the right wing press will once again roll out the "war on Christmas" (they don't want to say happy holidays!!!)... and no doubt a steady dose of outrage over "Caravans of Immigrants, AntiFa and BLM."

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by onthedarkside
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[2009]

On 5/22/2022 at 6:22 AM, LarrySR said:

The Thais are very tolerant of the ladyboy situation. It's not even an "issue" in Thailand. Having them in the mix is rather pleasant if you ask me. Isn't it nice that a person can be what they want to be here in the land of smiles. 

 

Sadly in the USA, the right wing media has weaponized the intolerant & is intent on keeping the viewers in a tizzy.

This week, the homophobes are losing sleep over "pronouns." Last week it was "bathrooms" that had them popping vessels.

A week before they were all in tears over "cancel culture" & "statues."  In a few more months the right wing press will once again roll out the "war on Christmas" (they don't want to say happy holidays!!!)... and no doubt a steady dose of outrage over "Caravans of Immigrants, AntiFa and BLM."

 

 

Precisely.

[EVENKEEL]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Harassment and bullying has always been a part of misbehavior in schools, sadly it has not always been investigated or otherwise dealt with.

 

Grade school kids harassing and bullying other grade school kids wrt their gender is troubling behavior.

 

I don’t feel triggered by reports that such behavior is being investigated.

 

 

 

 

What's troubling is 3 kids in trouble for using proper English. That's it, they refused to use improper pronouns. Stop the insanity.