Lender goes to police to show stab wound - says he had nothing to do with death of Pitbull

[webfact]

Picture: Thai Rath

 

Thai Rath reported on a case in which three people at a house in Sattahip, Chonburi, claimed they were attacked by money lenders who came to recover a debt.

 

They also claimed that their Pitbull dog had been killed by the money lenders.

 

All three in the house, Porn,36, her husband Watchara, 39 and Son Natthaphon, 20 claimed they were attacked. They went to the press.

 

Chaowalit Benjamas or "B", 35, went to Phlu Ta Luang police to say that he was innocent and didn't kill the people's dog.

 

He showed a stab wound to his left side that he got in the melee that required 11 stitches. 

 

He said that he and his associates spoke to the people in the house nicely about the 80-90,000 baht debt.

 

A debt that the people in the house told reporters earlier was 120,000 baht.

 

B said there was a fight and that the people in the house used a knife.

 

He said he had video evidence taken at the scene that showed no threats were made and no harm was done to the Pitbull. 

 

 

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[proton]

Good result on the Pitbull anyway????

[spidermike007]

I really have no issues with the killing of an overly aggressive dog. I would do it myself, with gusto.

As far as the stabbing goes, I am equally supportive of people making a decision to harm money lenders. It has always been a rather heinous trade.  

Edited June 18, 2022 by spidermike007

[300sd]

So what is the interest rate on that loan from this loan shark scum? Can we also see their business license? Perhaps something a little more serious should be in order for these bottom feeders. They disgust me.

 

[Mutt Daeng]

30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I really have no issues with the killing of an overly aggressive dog. I would do it myself, with gusto.

As far as the stabbing goes, I am equally supportive of people making a decision to harm money lenders. It has always been a rather heinous trade.  

I have no problem with an overly aggressive dog being put down. I read the OP and the Thai Rath article and could not see any mention of the dog being overly aggressive (Is it assumed to be overly aggressive because it's a pitbull?), unless something has been lost during the google translation.

BTW I'm not having a go at you @spidermike007.

Fair comments re: moneylenders.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Mutt Daeng

[giddyup]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I really have no issues with the killing of an overly aggressive dog. I would do it myself, with gusto.

As far as the stabbing goes, I am equally supportive of people making a decision to harm money lenders. It has always been a rather heinous trade.  

Nobody forces you to borrow money, and you shouldn't believe you have no obligation to pay it back. I have no sympathy for welchers.

Edited June 18, 2022 by giddyup

[jesimps]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I really have no issues with the killing of an overly aggressive dog. I would do it myself, with gusto.

As far as the stabbing goes, I am equally supportive of people making a decision to harm money lenders. It has always been a rather heinous trade.  

I agree with you on the dog.

[giddyup]

13 minutes ago, jesimps said:

I agree with you on the dog.

Maybe the dog was defending it's owners.

[Will B Good]

There is no excuse, regardless of breed, for 'owned' dogs not to be wearing a collar.

 

With no collar there is no chance of controlling a dog.

 

 

[TheFishman1]

I think most people here appreciate when somebody loans the money the only problem is it’s very difficult for them to repay you TIT

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that he and his associates spoke to the people in the house nicely about the 80-90,000 baht debt.

Yeah right…

[swm59nj]

People are talking about the dog being vicious and attacking.  Where in the article does it say the dog did anything?  

[BusyB]

5 hours ago, 300sd said:

So what is the interest rate on that loan from this loan shark scum? Can we also see their business license? Perhaps something a little more serious should be in order for these bottom feeders. They disgust me.

 

You'll probably find they've paid off the principal many many times over in interest.

It really should be stamped out mercilessly.

[BusyB]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

Nobody forces you to borrow money, and you shouldn't believe you have no obligation to pay it back. I have no sympathy for welchers.

Such compassion and understanding from one who hides behind a Buddha statue ikon.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, 300sd said:

Can we also see their business license?

Why the duck would they have to show it to Thaivisa posters, even if they have one?

[300sd]

17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why the duck would they have to show it to Thaivisa posters, even if they have one?

Show it to the police ok! How's that?

[giddyup]

25 minutes ago, BusyB said:

Such compassion and understanding from one who hides behind a Buddha statue ikon.

Neither a borrower nor a lender be. No one is hiding, I' m just tired of hearing about welchers who believe they can take someone's money and not pay it back. I'm sure the conditions of the loan were spelled out clearly to them, if they don't comply there are repercussions.

[giddyup]

32 minutes ago, BusyB said:

You'll probably find they've paid off the principal many many times over in interest.

It really should be stamped out mercilessly.

Guesswork. Maybe they haven't paid one satang.

[RichardColeman]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I really have no issues with the killing of an overly aggressive dog. I would do it myself, with gusto.

So, you would defend killing a dog potentially as YOU were threatening the owner for something and the dog was defending the owner, or seeing the owner under stress ? Seems potentially normal dog behaviour to me.

 

That said, I'd still wipe out all the soi dogs

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah right…

Nice doesn't get your money back.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

So, you would defend killing a dog potentially as YOU were threatening the owner for something and the dog was defending the owner, or seeing the owner under stress ? Seems potentially normal dog behaviour to me.

 

That said, I'd still wipe out all the soi dogs

Well, I doubt he killed the dog after he was attacked. He likely saw a vicious dog blocking his entrance, and put the beast down. Read into that what you will.

[Bluespunk]

10 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Nice doesn't get your money back.

Yep. 

[Bangel72]

noting these people had to go to the press rather than the police it seems a risk that a lot of loan sharks have police connections.  The madness of chasing an impossible debt by borrowing more and gambling has got sucked into a lot of borrowers mentality, ripe for crypto or other online 30% profit a month scams.

 

Right now thailand would benefit from a full on purge of loan sharks by an independent group.

 

The debts are often written in a way that hides the 20% interest a month or 10% a day in some cases, that could explain the differences in the lender/borrower money numbers.

 

desperate people borrow, addicts borrow, leaches prey on them

[giddyup]

7 minutes ago, Bangel72 said:

noting these people had to go to the press rather than the police it seems a risk that a lot of loan sharks have police connections.  The madness of chasing an impossible debt by borrowing more and gambling has got sucked into a lot of borrowers mentality, ripe for crypto or other online 30% profit a month scams.

 

Right now thailand would benefit from a full on purge of loan sharks by an independent group.

 

The debts are often written in a way that hides the 20% interest a month or 10% a day in some cases, that could explain the differences in the lender/borrower money numbers.

 

desperate people borrow, addicts borrow, leaches prey on them

There are also people who will take advantage. My partners family are in the red to me to the tune of about 300K baht, money I am unlikely to see again as I have no way of enforcing it be paid back. I can wear that loss without too much pain, but to some people, money lenders in particular, that sum is huge and they are not prepared to just let it go. Their interest is high probably because the risk of losing their money is high. There are no free lunches.

[thailand49]

 

5 hours ago, giddyup said:

Neither a borrower nor a lender be. No one is hiding, I' m just tired of hearing about welchers who believe they can take someone's money and not pay it back. I'm sure the conditions of the loan were spelled out clearly to them, if they don't comply there are repercussions.

I agree maybe it was spelled out but without a calculator it is over their heads. ????

My wife cousin use to live with us we got him a job at a friends window shop he had his own room, food when he was hungry, hot shower all we ask save your money don't be like all the Thai go drinking all the time. One day he ask me he wanted a few Thousand baht to go out drinking I ask him where is your money he got offended I even asked I said you earned 8000 baht a month been working there over a year that is over 100,000 baht when I showed it to him on the calculator he was shocked then got angry and left came back five days later I had his bags packed set outside took the keys to the bike never saw him again been 15 years. 

Edited June 18, 2022 by thailand49

[jacko45k]

So some mobster types went round to sort out someone not paying their debts using knives and the big issue is that a dog got killed?

[hotchilli]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that he and his associates spoke to the people in the house nicely about the 80-90,000 baht debt.

Yeah I bet.

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, giddyup said:

There are no free lunches.

Your partners family got one.

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Your partners family got one.

I depend on karma to sort that one out.

[SchuetzRob]

23 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I really have no issues with the killing of an overly aggressive dog. I would do it myself, with gusto.

As far as the stabbing goes, I am equally supportive of people making a decision to harm money lenders. It has always been a rather heinous trade.  

Nowhere in the article is an overly aggressive dog mentioned........

But if the pitbull should have stabbed the money lender with a knife, then I guess you are correct????