Thais still unwilling to ditch their masks, says media, despite success of vax campaign

[MrJ2U]

Success?

 

Hit and miss at best.

 

Rolling out to there own vaccines that are targeted towards the original variant is going to be a problem down the road. 

 

 

[ozimoron]

13 minutes ago, falang07 said:

 

 

Masks are better at protecting others than oneself. Everybody wearing a mask in an enclosed space provides the most protection. Many people will not display or suffer covid symptoms but may still transmit it to others. I have no way of knowing from day to day if I'm infected, reinfected or not.  I wear a mask in public indoor and outdoor crowded areas because I know that I have taken every reasonable step to save other people's lives. People in Thailand are still dying from covid on a daily basis.

[rattlesnake]

On 6/27/2022 at 3:13 PM, LikeItHot said:

Last week drove to Makro no mask went inside they demanded a mask This week drove to Makro no mask went inside they demanded a mask.

Wow. What a difference.

 

Was in Makro today with no mask and nobody said anything but 90% of people gave me surprised looks. Give it a few weeks, it's like stopping smoking, it can't happen overnight.

[ozimoron]

17 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Was in Makro today with no mask and nobody said anything but 90% of people gave me surprised looks. Give it a few weeks, it's like stopping smoking, it can't happen overnight.

Perhaps you misinterpreted their looks because they were wearing masks?

[rattlesnake]

29 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Perhaps you misinterpreted their looks because they were wearing masks?

Perhaps, although it's essentially in the eyes. I honestly did not sense any hostility. I know how Thais behave when they disapprove of something, that was not the case here.

 

This is my 2nd maskless day and it's going well, I have been carrying a spare one in my bag just in case but have not felt the need to use it.

[Khunangkaro]

All of my friends and relatives who had Covid were vaccinated before, and wearing mask.

I never wearing mask and never took any covid_jab.

As for me, I never got Covid infection.

 

 

 

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[arithai12]

20 hours ago, redwood1 said:

 

oh come on! Isn't it fun to see your temp? I agree, useless, but fun.

The hand spray on the other hand I find it useful, especially I do it before eating in a restaurant, saves the trouble of washing hands.

As for the register, who knows, maybe that pretty girl has seen you and is leaving her number hoping you will call her. Seriously, that is a waste of paper, should be stopped immediately for Mother Nature's sake.

Anyway, all entrance guards seem to have disappeared from malls.

[Johnnyngai]

13 hours ago, StevieAus said:

I don’t know which medical facilities you use but in the 12 years I have lived here I have received medical and hospital treatment of equal standard to anything in Australia or the UK.

The difference for me has been that the “service

standard” is superior.

I have just returned from the UK and it took four days to see a GP after being refused at one practice.

Returning to Chiang Mai I saw a chest specialist within one hour received an X Ray and the correct illness was diagnosed and treated.

For me the medical facilities are one notch above!

You can afford high quality medical insurance, not the ordinary Asians. 

God blessed you, but not everybody. 

[Johnnyngai]

4 hours ago, Khunangkaro said:

All of my friends and relatives who had Covid were vaccinated before, and wearing mask.

I never wearing mask and never took any covid_jab.

As for me, I never got Covid infection.

 

 

 

God blessed you, but not everybody. 

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, Johnnyngai said:

You can afford high quality medical insurance, not the ordinary Asians. 

God blessed you, but not everybody. 

The Thais have a 30 baht medical program which gives them access to treatment that is good. My ex-wifes mother had cancer and was treated just fine during all of her surgeries and followup treatments  10 years later she is still cancer free... you might want to really look at hospital care here, whether in a government hospital or private hospital. The doctors who work in the private hospitals also work in the government hospitals.  Many ex-pat friends have been treated in the government hospitals as well and received great treatment 

[jacko45k]

On 6/27/2022 at 11:18 AM, daveAustin said:

Not knocking Thais here, but there is a bit of a sheeple mentality throughout Asia. Ditching their masks will be a slow process. ????

Perhaps they still see a benefit in them. 

Amazing people banging on about masks feel choice is only about not wanting to wear one. 

[transam]

14 hours ago, mnomad said:

Not used in a mask in 7/11 or MaxValue or Tesco since Saturday, no staff or compliant Thais have said anything, Thais still using the redundant worthless temperature sensors on the way in though, talk about two extremes. The divide will grow before it shrinks ???? should be fun

The temp things are free to use, you don't have to stop walking, and it tells you if your temp is in its normal range for free.

And you want to dodge the free service...???? 

[Johnnyngai]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

The Thais have a 30 baht medical program which gives them access to treatment that is good. My ex-wifes mother had cancer and was treated just fine during all of her surgeries and followup treatments  10 years later she is still cancer free... you might want to really look at hospital care here, whether in a government hospital or private hospital. The doctors who work in the private hospitals also work in the government hospitals.  Many ex-pat friends have been treated in the government hospitals as well and received great treatment 

The  ent doctor in the USA use fiber optic scopes, but the Thai ent doctor use mechanics inspection mirrors.  

 

In the USA all big city hospitals have in house MRI machines. I do not think Thailand can afford that. 

 

I got bronchitis and was prescribed six different medicines by the Pattaya government hospital. 

I looked up the medicines online and found all six were developed in Europe around 1950s.  

In the USA I got one Z pack and one over the counter cough syrup, and it completely cured my bronchitis in five days.   

 

Wealthy Thai come to the USA for advance treatments. Americans come to Asia for advance treatment ?

 

The 30 baht treatment should work well for simple cases.  Medical technology takes  $$  to develop. 

Thailand has been a developing country for the last 50 years and is still developing.   

 

Comparing wealthy country medicine and developing country medicine is like comparing an eagle to a chicken.  

 

I have much respect for Thai doctors, but I feel fortunate not having to rely  on developing country medicines. 

 

[Johnnyngai]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Perhaps they still see a benefit in them. 

Amazing people banging on about masks feel choice is only about not wanting to wear one. 

A mild case of long covid means nothing to us because of our wealthy country social social nets. 

A mild case of long covid could mean permanent poverty for an entire Asian family. 

In many Asian countries, social safety nets exist only on paper, like there is no prostitution in Thailand.  

 

 

[Gilligan In Drag]

Its not just Thai people, the major shopping outlets I went to yesterday were still requiring them for entry. Among them was Makro. So, thats another reason its not on despite no longer being a requirement, it still is, the big coporations will carry the torch. One Thai family member of mine remarked Thais don't want to show they are deeply unhappy, they are too tired of expending the energy to smile anymore. Interesting, and maybe shes right about that, but judging from some of my other family's complete terror regarding COVID, I would guess its a matter too important to them to trust a patently and strictly self-interested government but who ironically shoe-horned them into wearing masks all the time in the first place.  But, the guy who drives me into town wasn't wearing his mask yesterday. I asked him if he had heard that the govt. rescinded the requirement and he said no he hadn't heard that. I asked why he wasn't wearing his mask as usual then and he said he didn't know, he just was tired of wearing it or something, didn't particularly feel like it and he hadn't really given it any thought, chuckle, chuckle. Good, at least the campaign didn't work  on people like him who are too busy playing soccer or running his clothing business to sit around listening to the world disinfo service creep-ohs all day like I do. I would guess there are more like him out there thank Buddah.

[ThailandRyan]

12 minutes ago, Johnnyngai said:

A mild case of long covid means nothing to us because of our wealthy country social social nets. 

A mild case of long covid could mean permanent poverty for an entire Asian family. 

In many Asian countries, social safety nets exist only on paper, like there is no prostitution in Thailand.  

 

 

You have been brainwashed into believing that Thai medicine is behind the times.  The majority of the hospitals have top end and new equipment, ergo Medical Tourism...try again.  People think this is still a thrid worls country and not a developing country.  You say it is a developing country and ergo why the doctors and medical staff, for the most part are trained to the same standards as in the US.  Many of the doctors here have trained in the US, like my endocrinologist, gastroenterologist, and orthopedist.  MRI Machines are available, well at least her in BKK and then in Udon Thani, so your claims are baseless.

 

Yes there are no social service safety nets for Thai's, yet they can still obtain long covid treatment, like there is no prostitution in America, or Europe.....stay on topic.  Mask wearing by the Asean Communities has been done for years, like the doctors offices I visited in California many times in the early 2000's, they had a separate entrance for those that had or suspected they had viruses, and separate seating rooms, and had masks available if you wanted one.

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, Gilligan In Drag said:

Its not just Thai people, the major shopping outlets I went to yesterday were still requiring them for entry. Among them was Makro. So, thats another reason its not on despite no longer being a requirement, it still is, the big coporations will carry the torch. One Thai family member of mine remarked Thais don't want to show they are deeply unhappy, they are too tired of expending the energy to smile anymore. Interesting, and maybe shes right about that, but judging from some of my other family's complete terror regarding COVID, I would guess its a matter too important to them to trust a patently and strictly self-interested government but who ironically shoe-horned them into wearing masks all the time in the first place.  But, the guy who drives me into town wasn't wearing his mask yesterday. I asked him if he had heard that the govt. rescinded the requirement and he said no he hadn't heard that. I asked why he wasn't wearing his mask as usual then and he said he didn't know, he just was tired of wearing it or something, didn't particularly feel like it and he hadn't really given it any thought, chuckle, chuckle. Good, at least the campaign didn't work  on people like him who are too busy playing soccer or running his clothing business to sit around listening to the world disinfo service creep-ohs all day like I do. I would guess there are more like him out there thank Buddah.

Icon Siam yesterday was pretty busy, and I only saw 1 or 2 foreigners not wearing masks.  In fact a family with young children were all masked.  There still are security at the doors but they are not checking anything.  It is up to the individual to decide what is right for him/her.  You seem to believe that it is a fear campaign making people keep on the masks.  You seem to understand things differently then many of the Thais I live around, and masks have been worm prior to covid by many..........

[transam]

5 hours ago, Gilligan In Drag said:

Its not just Thai people, the major shopping outlets I went to yesterday were still requiring them for entry. Among them was Makro. So, thats another reason its not on despite no longer being a requirement, it still is, the big coporations will carry the torch. One Thai family member of mine remarked Thais don't want to show they are deeply unhappy, they are too tired of expending the energy to smile anymore. Interesting, and maybe shes right about that, but judging from some of my other family's complete terror regarding COVID, I would guess its a matter too important to them to trust a patently and strictly self-interested government but who ironically shoe-horned them into wearing masks all the time in the first place.  But, the guy who drives me into town wasn't wearing his mask yesterday. I asked him if he had heard that the govt. rescinded the requirement and he said no he hadn't heard that. I asked why he wasn't wearing his mask as usual then and he said he didn't know, he just was tired of wearing it or something, didn't particularly feel like it and he hadn't really given it any thought, chuckle, chuckle. Good, at least the campaign didn't work  on people like him who are too busy playing soccer or running his clothing business to sit around listening to the world disinfo service creep-ohs all day like I do. I would guess there are more like him out there thank Buddah.

all my Thai friends, my local watering hole all wear masks if needed.

Take into consideration, we have never seen a cop or authority to search for non mask wearers ever.

 

They/I wear a mask because WE KNOW folk who laughed at masks have caught C19, that is mainly at my watering hole. You see, there are some with a bit of common sense to take some sort of self-protection in the environment we frequent.....????

[Richard 2020]

I also still use a mask when entering any store!
And that's just to protect myself!

 

What others think about it, I do not care!

 

I also wear a mask for years, when the fine dust loads are high here!

No FFP2 or KF94 mask, but one with valve for easier breathing!

[Liverpool Lou]

On 6/27/2022 at 11:13 AM, Bluespunk said:

On 6/27/2022 at 11:06 AM, webfact said:

Thai media INN reported from Korat or Nakhon Ratchasima where they said that Thais were unwilling to ditch their masks.

Then don't. 

Quite right.  It's a choice and no one has the right to belittle others for wearing a mask.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 6/27/2022 at 1:13 PM, IamNoone88 said:

They need a (many) big signs at Central to say masks no longer required and the removal of the overzealous security guards tbat jump on those not wearing them ... and then 7/11 and the airports. If you want to wear ... "up to you".

Central's properties are private, it's up to them to decide whether masks are required in their properties and how they want their security staff to act. 

 

7-11 staff are still wearing them, they told me that customers now have a choice. 

[Photoguy21]

On 6/27/2022 at 11:18 AM, daveAustin said:

Not knocking Thais here, but there is a bit of a sheeple mentality throughout Asia. Ditching their masks will be a slow process. ????

I think you will find that mentality exists in most countries around the world not just here in SEA

[Liverpool Lou]

On 6/27/2022 at 1:29 PM, billsmart said:

If you know you are carrying the COVID-19 virus or having some symptoms, I encourage you to wear one also.

"I encourage you to wear one also".

Don't you impose your encouragement on us!   

 

Only kidding.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 6/27/2022 at 1:46 PM, malibukid said:

the girls need to take them off, so we can see them smile

The girls need to take them off so that we can see what we're getting!

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

I think you will find that mentality exists in most countries around the world not just here in SEA

It is not a Sheeple mentality, it is a decision folks make to keep themselves safe from things such as bad air quality and viruses.  Please do not equate the views on mask wearing as a mentality or those that wear them as Sheeple.  The world over is a vast area and as you indicate masks are still worn in most countries.......

Edited June 29, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[EVENKEEL]

So I just made a short ride to 7-11 with 10 yr old daughter. She was having a fit that I wasn't wearing a mask on the MB. Put it on for 7-11. But, mostly all the Thais still wearing mask alone on MB's. Walking alone with no one around, wear a mask. It's going to be hard for the Thais to give up the mask. 

 

And please no talk about dust and pollution where I'm at.

 

 

[Rimmer]

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[whiteman]

I have 2 laugh most riders and passengers on the motor bikes still seem to me to be wearing masks Yet NO helmets

[Johnnyngai]

23 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

You have been brainwashed into believing that Thai medicine is behind the times.  The majority of the hospitals have top end and new equipment, ergo Medical Tourism...try again.  People think this is still a thrid worls country and not a developing country.  You say it is a developing country and ergo why the doctors and medical staff, for the most part are trained to the same standards as in the US.  Many of the doctors here have trained in the US, like my endocrinologist, gastroenterologist, and orthopedist.  MRI Machines are available, well at least her in BKK and then in Udon Thani, so your claims are baseless.

 

Yes there are no social service safety nets for Thai's, yet they can still obtain long covid treatment, like there is no prostitution in America, or Europe.....stay on topic.  Mask wearing by the Asean Communities has been done for years, like the doctors offices I visited in California many times in the early 2000's, they had a separate entrance for those that had or suspected they had viruses, and separate seating rooms, and had masks available if you wanted one.

 

I am referring to ordinary Thais, for example, the vendors in wet markets with stinky live chickens and pot hole floors, and the cleaning ladies earning 500 B/day with no fringe benefits.  Western retirees with usd2000+ per month, and tourist with 50,000usd emergency medical insurance are not ordinary Thais.  

 

Do ordinary Thais using 30B medical benefits have access to  Minimally Invasive Orthopedic Surgery ? ?

In the USA, even poor people living on government benefits have access to Minimally Invasive Orthopedic Surgery.  

 

Yes, the showcase government hospitals in BKK, Chiangmai and Udon Thani have in house MRI.

But how about the big government hospitals in poor provinces that no tourist ever goes to ? 

Do those hospitals have the $$ for an in house MRI ? 

 

Even now when I go to stinky wet markets to buy baby bananas, I can still easily spot 60+ year old local people with swollen ankles.  The condition was common in the USA up until 30 years ago, but not anymore due to the advancement of hypotension and heart medicines.   

 

All I am saying is " Advance medicine takes much $$ to develop. " 

Just look at the covid vaccines the ordinary Thais have easy access to.  It is not mRNA vaccines.   

 

I do not look down at the ordinary Thais because with some bad luck, I could be one of them.  

[david555]

17 minutes ago, StealthComms said:

It looks grotesque at this point, everyone masked up, while in real world ppl should burn masks and celebrate.

you are ignoring the western news , in my Europe country , infections and hospitalizations on the rise week after week , however no knowledge of deads (yet..)

I understand Thai gov. like to promote Thailand once more as before first wave as a safe country......so they like NOW the masks OFF...., soon they go fine those mask carriers .....????

Edited June 30, 2022 by david555