Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham subpoenaed by grand jury in Trump election probe

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Words with no meaning! I am sure the WH corrected him as they usually do when he talks this BS. 

"Words with no meaning".  Sounds like a Trump rally.  And Trump explaining why transcripts of his phone calls don't mean what they clearly mean.

 

' “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have." doesn't mean find 11,780 votes, it means fudge the vote count.  That's not illegal, is it?  Oh, it is?  Well I didn't say that.'

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, rgraham said:

My retirement savings says Trump was a far superior president than groping Joe. The economy, our border security and more than all our health as a democratic republic was much better under Trump.

"our health as a democratic republic"?  Seriously?  Trump never came close to winning the popular vote, declared both elections frauds long before the vote, and never substantiated any of his many claims of voter fraud.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, rgraham said:

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end. There is a faction that just hates the arrogance of Donald Trump, and they just keep up the stabbing at him with charges that are never backed up with facts. The Russia connection they accused him of ended up being with Obama/Hillary and really backfired. All of the impeachment proceedings failed to return a conviction simply because they found no proof of wrongdoing except for the opposing party. Looking back, I would much preferred DJT to the catastrophe we are in now. My retirement savings, which are invested mainly in core domestic industries, have lost over 45% of their value since February 2021. During the four years that DJT was leader of the USA my investments had appreciated 38%. I am no admirer of DJT personally, but he was a much better leader than Biden or Obama.

Obama took office in the midst of an economic meltdown and left the economy in very good shape, and your retirement savings didn't benefit?  Maybe the problem was your investment acumen.

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 hours ago, rgraham said:

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end.

It's not hearsay when the evidence consists of the person committing the crime on tape, using their own words.

[Jingthing]

29 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's not hearsay when the evidence consists of the person committing the crime on tape, using their own words.

Of course.

Keep in mind a lot of these attacks (it's hearsay! it's a Kangaroo Court! it's a witch hunt! Russia Russia Russia!, etc.) are just canned talking points from the Maga nation that are spouted without any consideration to the context or relevance. They mirror the tactics of the dear leader, just keep repeating B.S. lies so many times that they stick with many people. 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Jingthing

[Credo]

7 hours ago, rgraham said:

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end. There is a faction that just hates the arrogance of Donald Trump, and they just keep up the stabbing at him with charges that are never backed up with facts. The Russia connection they accused him of ended up being with Obama/Hillary and really backfired. All of the impeachment proceedings failed to return a conviction simply because they found no proof of wrongdoing except for the opposing party. Looking back, I would much preferred DJT to the catastrophe we are in now. My retirement savings, which are invested mainly in core domestic industries, have lost over 45% of their value since February 2021. During the four years that DJT was leader of the USA my investments had appreciated 38%. I am no admirer of DJT personally, but he was a much better leader than Biden or Obama.

It's not a kangaroo court, or any court for that matter.  It's an investigation.   There is no hearsay testimony, only testimony.  It's testimony under oath.  Simple really.   

 

 

[pomchop]

10 hours ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

Trump will use this to grift hundreds of millions of dollars from his cult followers. Money is the only thing he cares about. He has a lot of debts to pay off.

That is exactly what he will do...announce a run set up another grift PAC to "pay for his legal defense"...con his cult out of a few more hundred million, try to keep relevant, then decide not to run, drag out appeals until he dies,  and meantime use the money from his cult for his personal pleasure....It is truly amazing how his cult can continue to get conned over and over by the big lie told by the big liar....fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.  50% of Americans read at a level of 8th grade and trump plays on this kind of  ignorance to get millions to refuse to believe what they see and hear on videotape with their own eyes and ears.  He will go down in history as the biggest con man ever and his cult will go down as the biggest rubes ever.

[pomchop]

8 hours ago, rgraham said:

My retirement savings says Trump was a far superior president than groping Joe. The economy, our border security and more than all our health as a democratic republic was much better under Trump.

groping joe? says the grab em by the pxxxy kool aide crowd...

[Berkshire]

14 hours ago, rgraham said:

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end. There is a faction that just hates the arrogance of Donald Trump, and they just keep up the stabbing at him with charges that are never backed up with facts. The Russia connection they accused him of ended up being with Obama/Hillary and really backfired. All of the impeachment proceedings failed to return a conviction simply because they found no proof of wrongdoing except for the opposing party. Looking back, I would much preferred DJT to the catastrophe we are in now. My retirement savings, which are invested mainly in core domestic industries, have lost over 45% of their value since February 2021. During the four years that DJT was leader of the USA my investments had appreciated 38%. I am no admirer of DJT personally, but he was a much better leader than Biden or Obama.

I get that your retirement savings has gone down the toilet.  Other than that, all of your comments are complete b*llsh*t.

[pomchop]

If trump came on TV and said  " yes i did every single nefarious illegal thing mentioned and I will do it again if you re elect me"  his kool aide cult would scream fake news.  50% of American adults read at 8th grade or less level....trump knows that and dumbs it all down for the "base" while sucking millions of dollars out of their pockets. Even PT Barnum would be impressed. 

Edited July 8, 2022 by pomchop

[Jingthing]

This Georgia thing is as serious as Sweet Tea to a diabetic.

 

 

[bendejo]

On 7/6/2022 at 2:55 AM, Pedrogaz said:

Get that parasite Giuliani in jail where he belongs.

Rather than plea I think Rudy would do a "Vinnie the Chin" where he puts on a bats-in-the-belfry performance.  (There is an old "Law & Order" episode with a character based on him.)

https://mafiahitters.com/vincent-the-chin-gigante-the-oddfather-chronicles/

 

DT wouldn't do that, too vain.  But wouldn't it be a hoot if his kids and his wife of the moment got together and had him committed to the loony bin! 

Lindsey I can't tell, the Dixie White guys live on their own planet.

 

 

[bendejo]

On 7/6/2022 at 3:21 AM, Eric Loh said:

I hope you have not taken a full plunge into that Trump's rabbit hole like Stacy Blatt who was in hospice care and went online and chipped in everything he could after listening to Rush Limbaugh's grift for donation to Trump's campaign. That small donation of $500 quickly multiplied every week until he cant even pay for his utility and rent payment and he has to called his brother for help.  

The sick part of these stories is the sucker will still defend DT, claiming it was those slimy grifters who did it, not he.  This seems to be the gist of Kellyanne's latest book as well.

 

 

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

The sick part of these stories is the sucker will still defend DT, claiming it was those slimy grifters who did it, not he.  This seems to be the gist of Kellyanne's latest book as well.

 

Hmmm...Trump is too stupid to know his fund is not being used for its stated purpose. 

 

Just as he was too stupid to know that his "fight like hell" speech on the day of the Capitol riot would provoke the mob.

 

And he was too stupid to know that as President of the United States it was his responsibility to take immediate action to call off his supporters when they attacked the Capitol.

 

You know, it's almost believable.  But not quite.

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

You know, it's almost believable.  But not quite.

Y'know how with some dogs the only thing that gets their attention is food?  DT is that way when it comes to $$$.  The stupid melts away right quick.

Trump’s new money-maker: Political speeches to fans

 

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In fact, the fees aren’t going to Trump’s political action committee, his $100 million war chest. This event was not a Trump rally, where attendance is free.  Instead, it was a for-profit show, more like a rock concert. The proceeds benefit Trump personally as part of a multimillion-dollar deal to speak at the events, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

Who knows, he could expand it to include jugglers, lion tamers, women sawed in half, etc.  Maybe Leon could do a little rocketship thing.