4 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Fortunately we haven’t had a Liebour PM for about 17 years. There’s very little else to compare with other than war criminal Blair’s massive lies. Smarmy Starmer hasn’t had much opportunity to  show his deceit yet, although his sanctimonious performance over partygate while presiding over beergate is rank hypocrisy. 

More diversion. No attempt to address the actions and lies of Johnson.

18 minutes ago, baboon said:

Under different lockdown rules.

Away with you and your knowingly false equivalences. Just accept the result and move on.

Just accept the result and move on?  It’s only two days after these policing double standards are exposed and you want to quickly brush them under the carpet. 
That’s rich, coming from a group who have still not accepted the Brexit referendum result after six years. 

19 minutes ago, RayC said:

More diversion. No attempt to address the actions and lies of Johnson.

Mere fibs about nothing important. 

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Mere fibs about nothing important. 

Like being a Russian asset. That's quite important. 

6 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Just accept the result and move on?  It’s only two days after these policing double standards are exposed and you want to quickly brush them under the carpet. 
That’s rich, coming from a group who have still not accepted the Brexit referendum result after six years. 

No double standards. Just your man breaking the law and Starmer not breaking the law. Just cccept the result and move on. 

 

 

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

This just came up on my YouTube page.

I don't know the guy. But it seems he has the perfect words to describe the situation. Enjoy!

 

About the only thing missing is a Sky News logo in the corner of the screen!

14 minutes ago, baboon said:

Like being a Russian asset. That's quite important. 

Whatever that is, it must mean something in your world. In the real UK it’s either untrue or not important. 

46 minutes ago, baboon said:

Under different lockdown rules.

Away with you and your knowingly false equivalences. Just accept the result and move on.

Boris had already been vaccinated and although the laws were across the board for everyone , those laws were relaxed when everyone else had been vaccinated .

   So, Boris wouldn't have broken any laws if everyone else had been vaccinated and the rules devalued (?)

14 minutes ago, baboon said:

No double standards. Just your man breaking the law and Starmer not breaking the law. Just cccept the result and move on. 

 

 

Move along, nothing to see here??

Starmer did break the law. Didn’t you see the video? Is there on of Boris at a booze up?

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Whatever that is, it must mean something in your world. In the real UK it’s either untrue or not important. 

It means your man broke away from his security detail and partied with the KGB. And recently gave a peerage to his son against the advice of the security services.

Go on, pass that off as unimportant because you sure as hell can't deny it happened and retain any credibility. 

6 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Move along, nothing to see here??

Starmer did break the law. Didn’t you see the video? Is there on of Boris at a booze up?

No he didn't. You're a liar.

11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Boris had already been vaccinated and although the laws were across the board for everyone ,

he broke them and lied repeatedly about the fact.

Edited July 10, 20224 yr by baboon

6 minutes ago, baboon said:

No he didn't. You're a liar.

 

4 minutes ago, baboon said:

he broke them and lied repeatedly about the fact.

It would make for a more intelligent discussion , if we could stop calling people liars .

   "But they did tell lies"...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

8 minutes ago, baboon said:

It means your man broke away from his security detail and partied with the KGB. And recently gave a peerage to his son against the advice of the security services.

Go on, pass that off as unimportant because you sure as hell can't deny it happened and retain any credibility. 

So you think Boris is a spy now???????

Too many looney tunes or looney juice for you. No credibility at all in that report, wherever you dug it up from. Definitely in the not important box. 

8 minutes ago, baboon said:

No he didn't. You're a liar.

Starmer got away with it and Boris didn't .

Starmers  food and drinks party was considered to be necessary for work, whilst Borises food and drink party were considered to be unnecessary for work .

   The people who made those marginal judgements could have been biased in giving one the benefit of doubt and not the other one 

10 minutes ago, baboon said:

No he didn't. You're a liar.

The video shows that Starmer is the liar here. Angel also. 

12 minutes ago, baboon said:

It means your man broke away from his security detail and partied with the KGB.

I don't believe that is true . 

Could you provide some evidence of that ?

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't believe that is true . 

Could you provide some evidence of that ?

We’ll probably find that Starmer said so. 

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

So you think Boris is a spy now???????

Too many looney tunes or looney juice for you. No credibility at all in that report, wherever you dug it up from. Definitely in the not important box. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62068421

 

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/07/boris-johnson-finally-admits-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-16956976/

 

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-a-risk-to-the-country-over-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-alexander-lebedev-12648085

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-06/pm-admits-to-meeting-ex-kgb-officer-without-officials-when-foreign-secretary

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-kgb-diana-johnson-prime-minister-evening-standard-b2117199.html

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19989844.boris-johnson-facing-serious-questions-peerage-son-kgb-agent/

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2022/07/07/johnson-admits-to-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-without-officials-present/

 

 

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The video shows that Starmer is the liar here. Angel also. 

He is innocent. Your man is guilty. 

It still amazes me that Boris as a young reporter stationed at Brussels was able to make up the lies ("Brussels is dictating the shape of our bananas!") that he was able to then use to become PM by hoodwinking the low- information voters to support a ruthless neoliberal corporate state. 

 

I can recall in 2015, it was predicted the UK would overtake Germany as Europe's leading economy by 2035. With the horrific and entirely  expected Brexit crash in exports, the destruction of growth, the worst current account deficit in living history, those predictions have long been quietly binned. 

 

Brexit-- massively unpopular among the young-- really was a last "up- yours" from the Boomer generation before they head to the sleepy clouds in the sky. I wonder how long it'll be until reversed. My guess is no later than 2030, there'll be a letter landing on the commissioners desk to re- enter the EU. So silly. So pointless. So narcissistic.

 

But this time around, the UK will not receive the incredible opt-outs it had before. The Boomers are likely to be remembered as the worst generation in British history. The cost of their temper tantrum will hit even their great-grandchildren. 

17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

It would make for a more intelligent discussion , if we could stop calling people liars .

   "But they did tell lies"...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I will stop calling you a liar when you stop telling lies.

1 minute ago, baboon said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62068421

 

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/07/boris-johnson-finally-admits-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-16956976/

 

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-a-risk-to-the-country-over-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-alexander-lebedev-12648085

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-06/pm-admits-to-meeting-ex-kgb-officer-without-officials-when-foreign-secretary

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-kgb-diana-johnson-prime-minister-evening-standard-b2117199.html

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19989844.boris-johnson-facing-serious-questions-peerage-son-kgb-agent/

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2022/07/07/johnson-admits-to-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-without-officials-present/

 

 

 

 

 

 

All your links report that he met with a EX KGB agent , like no longer a KGB agent . 

   Your claim was that he met with a KGB agent , like still a KGB agent .

Do you have any evidence that he met with a (current)  KGB agent or would you like to retract your claim  ? 

2 minutes ago, baboon said:

He is innocent. Your man is guilty. 

You can judge however you want. We have seen the video. Starmer is lying and was breaking the rules. 
Just like you claim Boris was. They are all the same. 

7 minutes ago, baboon said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62068421

 

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/07/boris-johnson-finally-admits-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-16956976/

 

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-a-risk-to-the-country-over-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-alexander-lebedev-12648085

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-06/pm-admits-to-meeting-ex-kgb-officer-without-officials-when-foreign-secretary

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-kgb-diana-johnson-prime-minister-evening-standard-b2117199.html

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19989844.boris-johnson-facing-serious-questions-peerage-son-kgb-agent/

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2022/07/07/johnson-admits-to-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent-without-officials-present/

 

 

 

 

 

 

More anti-Boris MSM hysteria. Doesn’t actually make anything true, or important. 

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You can judge however you want. We have seen the video. Starmer is lying and was breaking the rules. 
Just like you claim Boris was. They are all the same. 

No they aren't. That's why you give that lying corrupt Johonson a free pass no matter what, but tear into Starmer despite him doing nothing wrong.

4 hours ago, Loiner said:

There won't be many members of the British public standing outside those gates. They wouldn't get through the massed MSM hacks baying for Boris's blood.

Loiner, what do you think of Johnson, as Foreign Secretary, flying straight from a Nato conference to a party in Italy to meet Lebedev without any Foreign Office officials present?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/06/johnson-admits-to-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent

 

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

More anti-Boris MSM hysteria. Doesn’t actually make anything true, or important. 

But it is true, making you even more of a fool. He even admitted it himself.

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Loiner, what do you think of Johnson, as Foreign Secretary, flying straight from a Nato conference to a party in Italy to meet Lebedev without any Foreign Office officials present?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/06/johnson-admits-to-private-meeting-with-ex-kgb-agent

 

Stand by for 'I don't trust Sky News (or any other organisation that doesn't coincide with my point of view.)'

Edited July 10, 20224 yr by baboon

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

His point was highlight the E.U rules and restrictions 

I know. The issue is why didn't he choose a true example of a rule which was significantly and negatively affecting UK, rather than lying about banana regulations.

I have some ideas about it.....