Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, JimGant said: And what about this....... Presumably the operative phrase is, "t-shirt is not allowed," as my business attire went in the trash when I retired. The fanciest shirt I own is a polo shirt. I wore a nice polo shirt, all that's in the photo is my head and the collar.....lol. I took my glasses off for the photo. Edited October 19, 2022 by ThailandRyan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boomer6969 Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 So I have my appointment to get the visa next Tuesday, the whole thing was quite relaxed so far, hardly had to lift my lazy bum from the couch to get to this stage. One thing that has been a bit unexpected was that immigration requested my latest 90 days report, a recent Kor Ror 2, and the original of our Marriage certificate. The reason they gave was that they needed it because I terminate a "Thai Wife" extension. My guess is they try to catch guys who wouldn't have reported a recent divorce, but who knows. Somehow my wife started getting calls from BOI staff who seemed happy to converse in their familiar tongue. They also recommended that she comes along on Tuesday "to makes things easier". Thailand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said: So I have my appointment to get the visa next Tuesday, the whole thing was quite relaxed so far, hardly had to lift my lazy bum from the couch to get to this stage. One thing that has been a bit unexpected was that immigration requested my latest 90 days report, a recent Kor Ror 2, and the original of our Marriage certificate. The reason they gave was that they needed it because I terminate a "Thai Wife" extension. My guess is they try to catch guys who wouldn't have reported a recent divorce, but who knows. Somehow my wife started getting calls from BOI staff who seemed happy to converse in their familiar tongue. They also recommended that she comes along on Tuesday "to makes things easier". Thailand Now that's good to know. I plan to apply for a LTR Pensioner over the next month or so and currently have an Marriage Extension of Stay...in fact, I picked up my renewed 12 month marriage extension stamp today....I'm now good to go until the end of Oct 2023. If by some wild chance the BOI approves my LTR application I'll now know to go get a fresh Kor Ror 2 and bring along our Original Marriage Certificate something I would not have even thought about doing unless the BOI had given me a head-ups in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, Pib said: Now that's good to know. I plan to apply for a LTR Pensioner over the next month or so and currently have an Marriage Extension of Stay...in fact, I picked up my renewed 12 month marriage extension stamp today....I'm now good to go until the end of Oct 2023. If by some wild chance the BOI approves my LTR application I'll now know to go get a fresh Kor Ror 2 and bring along our Original Marriage Certificate something I would not have even thought about doing unless the BOI had given me a head-ups in advance. You will more than likely also end up with the stamp in your PP as I indicated I did and which when translated by another member is the notation allowing the cancelation of the current extension of stay and allowing for the LTR to be placed into the PP. I talked with someone who had wanted t change from their Non Imm O-A extension to a Non Imm-O visa and they were advised they would need to leave the country to kill off the existing extension, then re-enter on a 30 day visa exempt entry and then apply for the Non-O in Thailand. Thankfully, the BOI and LTR program keeps us from having to bounce out and in to have the Visa affixed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: You will more than likely also end up with the stamp in your PP as I indicated I did and which when translated by another member is the notation allowing the cancelation of the current extension of stay and allowing for the LTR to be placed into the PP. I talked with someone who had wanted t change from their Non Imm O-A extension to a Non Imm-O visa and they were advised they would need to leave the country to kill off the existing extension, then re-enter on a 30 day visa exempt entry and then apply for the Non-O in Thailand. Thankfully, the BOI and LTR program keeps us from having to bounce out and in to have the Visa affixed. The ability to cancel or change an existing visa/visa extension seems to be limited to the BoI and its associated IOs. Some have described this as the BoI's "magical powers." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Boomer6969 said: So I have my appointment to get the visa next Tuesday, the whole thing was quite relaxed so far, hardly had to lift my lazy bum from the couch to get to this stage. What did you use to satisfy the LTR medical insurance requirement....a Thai insurance policy, foriegn insurance policy, maybe home country social security/government-type coverage, or self-insure with money in financial account(s)? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: You will more than likely also end up with the stamp in your PP as I indicated I did and which when translated by another member is the notation allowing the cancelation of the current extension of stay and allowing for the LTR to be placed into the PP. I talked with someone who had wanted t change from their Non Imm O-A extension to a Non Imm-O visa and they were advised they would need to leave the country to kill off the existing extension, then re-enter on a 30 day visa exempt entry and then apply for the Non-O in Thailand. Thankfully, the BOI and LTR program keeps us from having to bounce out and in to have the Visa affixed. It was well worth it for the 50k 10 year price. It would have run me the additional cost of a trip out and back if they did not cancel my existing extension. Instead I used that money for a celebratory dinner...... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boomer6969 Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 58 minutes ago, Pib said: What did you use to satisfy the LTR medical insurance requirement....a Thai insurance policy, foriegn insurance policy, maybe home country social security/government-type coverage, or self-insure with money in financial account(s)? Thanks. Well, they didn't really like my open ended Cigna/UN insurance, because it doesn't show an expiry date. So I sent them some statements from my accounts back in Geneva. That made them happier, but they asked me to provide documents for the bank accounts as well as the insurance. Liked it as it demonstrated a degree of flexibility I was accustomed to after my 7 "Thai Wife" extensions of stay. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, Boomer6969 said: Well, they didn't really like my open ended Cigna/UN insurance, because it doesn't show an expiry date. So I sent them some statements from my accounts back in Geneva. That made them happier, but they asked me to provide documents for the bank accounts as well as the insurance. Liked it as it demonstrated a degree of flexibility I was accustomed to after my 7 "Thai Wife" extensions of stay. The reason I asked is because as a U.S. military retiree I have some U.S. govt/military healthcare coverage named Tricare Overseas/Tricare for Life which is "worldwide" coverage....me and the wife have used that coverage here in Thailand since we retired here for well over a decade....great medical coverage. It's basically a social security/government universal type coverage that does not come with a policy cover sheet that spells out coverage amounts since the coverage is really "unlimited," (i.e., covered for millions of dollars in OPR/IPD if required), no end/expiration date as long as you are still breathing & are paying the monthly Medicare Part B premium for Tricare for Life if 65 or older.. You can get an Tricare online acct benefit letter that is vanilla in nature that basically just says, "Yes, Pib you are currently enrolled in Tricare and have been for a long time." I would really like to use that Tricare coverage as my medical insurance on the LTR application since I will have that coverage till death....even if I don't have a penny saved in a bank. But at the same time I don't want to waste my time trying if other LTR applicants have tried using foreign government type coverage which included coverage in Thailand if the BOI is going to reject it simply because it has no expiration, doesn't specially have a policy sheet stating X-amount of coverage (since it really unlimited coverage), basically, doesn't look like a standard commercial/civilian insurance policy. Instead I would just go the money in a financial/bank acct route and self insure from the get-go in the LTR application. One more question: approx how long after initially submitting your LTR application did it take the BOI say they were not totally satisfied with your insurance docs and they wanted some financial docs also to prove the ability to medically self-insure? Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: It was well worth it for the 50k 10 year price. It would have run me the additional cost of a trip out and back if they did not cancel my existing extension. Instead I used that money for a celebratory dinner...... It was challenging but you made it to the end, well done 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawpal Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On the "Check Status" screen, my application's status has changed several times from "Pending" to "Processing" and vice versa. Does anyone know what this indicates (or if it indeed indicates anything)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Pib said: The reason I asked is because as a U.S. military retiree I have some U.S. govt/military healthcare coverage named Tricare Overseas/Tricare for Life which is "worldwide" coverage....me and the wife have used that coverage here in Thailand since we retired here for well over a decade....great medical coverage. It's basically a social security/government universal type coverage that does not come with a policy cover sheet that spells out coverage amounts since the coverage is really "unlimited," (i.e., covered for millions of dollars in OPR/IPD if required), no end/expiration date as long as you are still breathing & are paying the monthly Medicare Part B premium for Tricare for Life if 65 or older.. You can get an Tricare online acct benefit letter that is vanilla in nature that basically just says, "Yes, Pib you are currently enrolled in Tricare and have been for a long time." I would really like to use that Tricare coverage as my medical insurance on the LTR application since I will have that coverage till death....even if I don't have a penny saved in a bank. But at the same time I don't want to waste my time trying if other LTR applicants have tried using foreign government type coverage which included coverage in Thailand if the BOI is going to reject it simply because it has no expiration, doesn't specially have a policy sheet stating X-amount of coverage (since it really unlimited coverage), basically, doesn't look like a standard commercial/civilian insurance policy. Instead I would just go the money in a financial/bank acct route and self insure from the get-go in the LTR application. One more question: approx how long after initially submitting your LTR application did it take the BOI say they were not totally satisfied with your insurance docs and they wanted some financial docs also to prove the ability to medically self-insure? Thanks. Regarding the health insurance this is what they answered after I made my first submission: "We have checked your documents and found that they are eligible. However, please provide an evidence of health insurance that shows expire date and treatment cover information of your plan for further consideration (the health insurance must have the coverage of no less than $50,000 USD with the remaining maturity of no less than 10 months at the time of application)." As I can't provide evidence of an expiry date that doesn't exist I didn't go any further and submitted my my bank statements. After which I go the following: "Your saving is accepted instead of health insurance policy. It is suggested to upload both Cigna's health insurance policy and your saving when you submit an application." And this settled it. Regarding the length of the process, for my first inquiries to today's final approval it was about 6 weeks. But bear in mind that they have probably flooded with applications, and not only retirees. Next year they might be under less stress. Anyhow I hope this can help. Best of luck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Yes...it helps a lot. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Pawpal said: On the "Check Status" screen, my application's status has changed several times from "Pending" to "Processing" and vice versa. Does anyone know what this indicates (or if it indeed indicates anything)? It may not indicate anything as they are still experiencing glitches as we have indicated on prior pages within the OP. I would give the LTR Unit a phone call to discuss your application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuarty Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Pending is more advanced than processing if all is normal on the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aublumberg Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 Got the ticket, take the ride. ???? 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, aublumberg said: Got the ticket, take the ride. ???? Congratulations you got an actual sticker visa, congrats. When you arrive I wonder if you will get just the 5 year entry stamp and the multiple re-entry permit only. Edited October 20, 2022 by ThailandRyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, aublumberg said: Got the ticket, take the ride. ???? Congratulations! Please let us know what happens when you go through Immigration upon arrival. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aublumberg Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: Congratulations you got an actual sticker visa, congrats. When you arrive I wonder if you will get just the 5 year entry stamp and the multiple re-entry permit only. Well your stamp still wins hand down in the artistic category! Will update when coming into Thailand, potentially end of the month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 is there another source for the requirements other than the graphic? is it "any of the above" re: the 4 parts of the Graphic? is it this? https://thaiconsulatela.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/non-o-x-long-stay-retirement-up-to-10-year afaict, for example, its $1M is assets (is that supposed to be parked in Thailand?) , 10.1 Foreigners do not have financial evidence as per stipulated by above qualifications such as: – The sum of money in the bank account is less than 3 million Baht at the end of the first year of stay period in Thailand. – The sum of money in the bank account is less than 1.5 million Baht at the end of the second year of stay period in Thailand, 2) $50k of insurance coverage (from which providers?) or deposit $100k in a Thai Bank? 3) a one time payment of ? $400 USD B) Multi entry for 5 years, then what re-entry permits for 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aublumberg Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, chubby said: is it this? https://thaiconsulatela.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/non-o-x-long-stay-retirement-up-to-10-year This is a different visa type. All LTR requirements are listed in detail on the BOI website https://ltr.boi.go.th. For example: ”WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS HOLDING AT LEAST USD 1 MILLION IN ASSETS - At least USD 1 million in assets- Personal income of a minimum of USD 80,000/ year in the past two years- Investment of at least USD 500,000 in Thai government bonds, foreign direct investment, or Thai property- Health insurance with at least USD 50,000 coverage or social security benefits insuring treatment in Thailand or at least USD 100,000 deposit- Applicants must fulfill all of the above requirements to be eligible for Wealthy Global Citizens application” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klonko Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 What are the rules for investing in Thai property under the LTR scheme? Condo of course, company probably not, direct ownership with obligation to sell when visa expires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrmagyar Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Klonko said: What are the rules for investing in Thai property under the LTR scheme? Condo of course, company probably not, direct ownership with obligation to sell when visa expires? See recent post on their facebook page 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2938 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, mrmagyar said: See recent post on their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/LTRVisaThailand/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klonko Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, mrmagyar said: See recent post on their facebook page Thank you, but I am not on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Klonko said: What are the rules for investing in Thai property under the LTR scheme? Condo of course, company probably not, direct ownership with obligation to sell when visa expires? Try this page from the BOI's LTR visa website: https://ltr.boi.go.th/page/required-documents.html Click on the appropriate icon for the visa you wish to get, and download the required documents. As an example, see screenshot below on what it says is required for "Wealthy Global Pensioners" Other than that, you may need to contact the BoI directly to get your questions answered.. Please let us know what you learn. Unfortunately these visas are so new this forum may not have all the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagyar Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Has anyone yet been approved for the 'Work From Thailand Professionals' visa, working for a private company? If so it would be interesting to hear how well received the audited accounts were. Also, if applicants using this route were not bringing in their salary in the year that it was earnt, would it still be assumed that no Thai income tax was due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, mrmagyar said: Has anyone yet been approved for the 'Work From Thailand Professionals' visa, working for a private company? If so it would be interesting to hear how well received the audited accounts were. Also, if applicants using this route were not bringing in their salary in the year that it was earnt, would it still be assumed that no Thai income tax was due? On the question about Thai income tax, my understanding is if you earn a salary while working in Thailand, that income is considered Thai-sourced for Thai income tax purposes. Thai income tax is due on Thai-sourced income. Unfortunately the rules about no tax if you don't bring the earnings into Thailand only apply to foreign-sourced income. So like dividends, interest, etc - earned on assets outside of Thailand. Not salary from working in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagyar Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Misty said: On the question about Thai income tax, my understanding is if you earn a salary while working in Thailand, that income is considered Thai-sourced for Thai income tax purposes. Thai income tax is due on Thai-sourced income. Unfortunately the rules about no tax if you don't bring the earnings into Thailand only apply to foreign-sourced income. So like dividends, interest, etc - earned on assets outside of Thailand. Not salary from working in Thailand. Thanks Misty. That's most useful and seems very likely to be accuate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anrcaccount Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Misty said: On the question about Thai income tax, my understanding is if you earn a salary while working in Thailand, that income is considered Thai-sourced for Thai income tax purposes. Thai income tax is due on Thai-sourced income. Unfortunately the rules about no tax if you don't bring the earnings into Thailand only apply to foreign-sourced income. So like dividends, interest, etc - earned on assets outside of Thailand. Not salary from working in Thailand. Don't believe this is correct in the LTR case. Have a look at the site. https://ltr.boi.go.th/page/laws-regulations.html The principle is that anyone who qualifies for a WFTP visa type would typically not pay tax in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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