Eleven Conservatives now bidding to be next UK prime minister

[transam]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m wondering how any of that inflammatory nonsense relates to the topic of discussion.

 

 

Well, it is strange the lefties never say a word against the two, but probably think it is normal for the Labour benches.....????

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Well, it is strange the lefties never say a word against the two, but probably think it is normal for the Labour benches.....????

Not discussing stuff that’s off topic.

 

How odd is that?!

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not discussing stuff that’s off topic.

 

How odd is that?!

Understandable if one can't counter it.....????

[herfiehandbag]

58 minutes ago, baboon said:

Who was the last British Prime Minister to have won AND lost power via a general election? 

Thinking back, Heath I think, and his tastes for relaxation/entertainment allegedly lay elsewhere than dining in restaurants!

 

Mind you I am not sure whether that has anything to do with the original post, nor the little excursion that @transam and I have indulged in!

[baboon]

5 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Thinking back, Heath I think, and his tastes for relaxation/entertainment allegedly lay elsewhere than dining in restaurants!

 

Mind you I am not sure whether that has anything to do with the original post, nor the little excursion that @transam and I have indulged in!

I was illustrating that there is nothing unusual about the transferring of the premiership without there  being an election.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Very funny, but, I am not Liz Truss secretary, nor are you, so don't ask daft questions.

What is daft about asking (1) why Truss couldn't announce her candidacy from Indonesia and (2) what was so urgent that she had to be back in London asap?

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

 

Did I say the World's top 20 National economies were unimportant.....?

Your words about Truss' presence at the G20 Foreign Ministers' meeting "... having a chat with counterparts over tea & biscuits."

 

That's meant to convey a sense of importance?

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

 

I think you are making bar stool assumptions, especially over my insight glasses, mon ami, but good fun, though please do try harder...????

Assumptions based on the evidence of your contributions. Unfortunately, I don't think that a stronger lens prescription. Best give up the attempts at insight????

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Wow, you chose to single out a woman from an ethic minority background for such abuse. 

 

Shameful.

What’s her ethnicity got to do with anything?

 

She openly expresses hard rightwing views and nothing about her ethnicity has ever stopped her scapegoating immigrants or trying to enact policies against immigrants in contravention with the UK’s human rights law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Loiner]

58 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Wow, you chose to single out a woman from an ethic minority background for such abuse. 

 

Shameful.

The left are always bullying and very spiteful. Good job she’s not Jewish, who knows what sort of antisemitic abuse they would be posting. Nazi cap? Very poor taste, but they think it’s ok for them. 

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What’s her ethnicity hot to do with anything?

 

She openly expresses hard rightwing views and nothing about her ethnicity has ever stopped her scapegoating immigrants or trying to enact policies against immigrants in contravention with the UK’s human rights law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's rich coming from someone who accused me of disliking Carrie Symonds green politics because she's a woman ????. Hypocritical much?

 

I just thought it was interesting that of all the Tories to single out for this vile abuse, they chose a female from an ethnic minority. 

 

Very telling, and yet more spite and nastiness from the self proclaimed 'be kind' people. I think I see a pattern here... . 

 

 

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Wow, you chose to single out a woman from an ethic minority background for such abuse. 

 

Shameful.

Sorry, I forgot to put 555 or Ha ha ha or a jokey emoji after my post. 

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

The left are always bullying and very spiteful. Good job she’s not Jewish, who knows what sort of antisemitic abuse they would be posting. Nazi cap? Very poor taste, but they think it’s ok for them. 

It is indeed ironic that it's often the anti-semitic hard lefties who casually throw around the Nazi insult so much. Bad taste indeed from Team "Be Kind".

 

I believe 'Projection' would be an accurate description of such behaviour.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It is indeed ironic that it's often the anti-semitic hard lefties who casually throw around the Nazi insult so much. Bad taste indeed from Team "Be Kind".

 

I believe 'Projection' would be an accurate description of such behaviour.

I take it you mist Patel’s dog whistle remarks ‘North London Liberal Elite’.

 

A term often used by the British Nationalist Party.

 

Anyway, don’t let that interrupt your outrage.

[Kinnock]

On 7/11/2022 at 1:43 PM, transam said:

Liz Truss is always good at the dispatch box, she is good and well practised dealing with other nations, and never uses 4 letter words as the bird opposite does.............???? 

So she's not suitable for the role in question.

[James105]

26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What’s her ethnicity hot to do with anything?

 

She openly expresses hard rightwing views and nothing about her ethnicity has ever stopped her scapegoating immigrants or trying to enact policies against immigrants in contravention with the UK’s human rights law.

 

 

She is in charge of the department that is responsible for dealing with illegal immigrants.   That is her job and if she does not try to do her job then the UK will effectively have open borders and all the social problems that come along with such a reckless policy, such as the destruction of the health and social security services.  

 

Do you have any evidence that she has scapegoated, or attempted to enact policies against, or has a problem with ordinary immigrants who play by the rules and enter the UK legally?  If you do not it just sounds like you are attacking a brown woman without cause who is just trying to do her job.   We have a word for that kind of thing you know...

[transam]

11 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

So she's not suitable for the role in question.

Not on the opposition bench, no.....????

[RayC]

I don't find the Nazi hat/ Pritti Patel joke particularly amusing, and it's arguably in 'bad taste', but do those Conservative supporters now expressing faux outrage believe that a high-profile Tory such as Patel should be exempt from ridicule and satire because of her ethnicity? Bit of a lefty-liberal, Woke reaction, isn't it?

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, James105 said:

She is in charge of the department that is responsible for dealing with illegal immigrants.   That is her job and if she does not try to do her job then the UK will effectively have open borders and all the social problems that come along with such a reckless policy, such as the destruction of the health and social security services.  

 

Do you have any evidence that she has scapegoated, or attempted to enact policies against, or has a problem with ordinary immigrants who play by the rules and enter the UK legally?  If you do not it just sounds like you are attacking a brown woman without cause who is just trying to do her job.   We have a word for that kind of thing you know...

Well it’s not just me opinion:

 

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/this-government-has-shown-yet-again-its-attempt-to-scapegoat-migrants-for-their-own-mismanagement

 

https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/24/priti-patel-is-spreading-stories-about-refugees-to-suit-her-own-agenda-15646553/amp/

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19424398.outrage-patels-abhorrent-anti-refugee-legislation/

[transam]

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I take it you mist Patel’s dog whistle remarks ‘North London Liberal Elite’.

 

A term often used by the British Nationalist Party.

 

Anyway, don’t let that interrupt your outrage.

Her dog is called Mist, I didn't know that. thanks.....????

[baboon]

36 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

That's rich coming from someone who accused me of disliking Carrie Symonds green politics because she's a woman ????. Hypocritical much?

 

I just thought it was interesting that of all the Tories to single out for this vile abuse, they chose a female from an ethnic minority. 

 

Very telling, and yet more spite and nastiness from the self proclaimed 'be kind' people. I think I see a pattern here... . 

 

 

Of course vile abuse is only fair and reasonable when Diane Abbott is in the far right's crosshairs. She's fair game.

Hypocritical much?

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

Her dog is called Mist, I didn't know that. thanks.....????

Oh you got it right for once, I made a typing mistake.

 

Well done.

[James105]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well it’s not just me opinion:

 

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/this-government-has-shown-yet-again-its-attempt-to-scapegoat-migrants-for-their-own-mismanagement

 

https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/24/priti-patel-is-spreading-stories-about-refugees-to-suit-her-own-agenda-15646553/amp/

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19424398.outrage-patels-abhorrent-anti-refugee-legislation/

Yes, they are opinion pieces that do not provide any evidence that Patel scapegoats ordinary immigrants who play by the rules and enter the UK legally.   Like I said, if you do not have any evidence of what you accuse Patel of, then it just sounds like you are attacking a brown woman without cause for simply doing her job (which is dealing with the problem of illegal immigration).    As I said, we have a word for that sort of thing ...

[transam]

5 minutes ago, baboon said:

Of course vile abuse is only fair and reasonable when Diane Abbott is in the far right's crosshairs. She's fair game.

Hypocritical much?

"Far rights crosshairs", tut tut, where did you get that from, where's your evidence...?

 

So after you lefty lot slagged off Boris here, it's a different story for a totally incompetent Labour MP to be mentioned...

 

Hilarious and hypocritical in the extreme....????

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, James105 said:

Yes, they are opinion pieces that do not provide any evidence that Patel scapegoats ordinary immigrants who play by the rules and enter the UK legally.   Like I said, if you do not have any evidence of what you accuse Patel of, then it just sounds like you are attacking a brown woman without cause for simply doing her job (which is dealing with the problem of illegal immigration).    As I said, we have a word for that sort of thing ...

Reporting facts of Patel’s actions and words is not ‘opinion’.

 

Where is it written that it is  Patel’s job to do anything in contravention with human rights law?

 

How is Patel’s own ethnicity a defense against criticism of her words and actions.

 

I have word for that too.

 

 

[baboon]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

"Far rights crosshairs", tut tut, where did you get that from, where's your evidence...?

 

So after you lefty lot slagged off Boris here, it's a different story for a totally incompetent Labour MP to be mentioned...

 

Hilarious and hypocritical in the extreme....????

Bleats the poster who never shuts up about the woman. 

[transam]

Just now, baboon said:

Bleats the poster who never shuts up about the woman. 

I will ask again, where is your evidence that any of us chatting are from the far-right...?

[JonnyF]

19 minutes ago, baboon said:

Of course vile abuse is only fair and reasonable when Diane Abbott is in the far right's crosshairs. She's fair game.

Hypocritical much?

I'm not sure who this far right is that you speak of.

 

However, I've never seen her accused of being a Nazi. That tends to be a lefty insult when they start losing the argument (along with fascist, racist etc.).

 

My criticism of her has always been about her complete ineptitude which is 100% fair and accurate. 

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

5 hours ago, baboon said:

Who was the last British Prime Minister to have won AND lost power via a general election? 

John Major

[transam]

12 minutes ago, baboon said:

Bleats the poster who never shuts up about the woman. 

Pot/kettle, you have not stopped slagging off an MP called Boris..

At ease, dismiss.....????

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm not sure who this far right is that you speak of.

 

However, I've never seen her accused of being a Nazi. That tends to be a lefty insult when they start losing the argument (along with fascist, racist etc.).

 

My criticism of her has always been about her complete ineptitude which is 100% fair and accurate. 

 

 

Did you bother reading the OP?

 

It gave a clue as to what is actually the topic of discussion.

[baboon]

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

John Major

Good one. I thought it was Heath, but I get your point.