Video: High sea levels in Samut Prakan - sea side residents up to their waists in water - and it's set to get even worse

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77kaoded Thai Caption: High sea levels

 

77kaoded reported with a video how high sea levels are disrupting the lives of people living close to the Gulf of Thailand in Samut Prakan, south east of the Thai capital Bangkok.

 

And it's only going to get worse according to the navy meteorological office. 

 

In some places the water is up to residents' waists, comes in fast and is now at its worst in three decades.

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

In the video and in still photos there were inundated roads, flooded markets and distressed householders having to cope with ruined homes.

 

One woman says:

 

"This is the third time". 

 

This comment coming as they cleared up again and pointed to the devastation as their possessions floated in the high tides. 

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

Information from the navy met office suggested that sea levels had risen dramatically yesterday but would then subside before another even worse peak of 3.9 meters today. 

 

That was not all.

 

It was set to get even worse every day until next Wednesday, July 20th. 

 

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[petermik]

Rest assured I`m certain the PM will have a simple solution to this.........

[proton]

Where in Samut Prakan, it's not just east of Bangkok, it's also south west

[nikmar]

1 hour ago, petermik said:

Rest assured I`m certain the PM will have a simple solution to this.........

He d just give them masks!!

[Iamfalang]

up to their waists

[Peterphuket]

Thailand, it remains a third world country.

Apparently it looks like very difficult to do enough protection to avoid this.

It doesn't have to cost that much to protect your own people.

For example , buy less submarines.

[howlee101]

2 hours ago, nikmar said:

He d just give them masks!!

And Anutin predicts 2 million tourist will visit the area by the end of August ????

[RichardColeman]

I'm pretty sure - like in the rest of the world - there is enough hill space to move !

 

My home town in the UK along the Thames just spent millions on flooding prevention to protect about 40 homes of millionaires that rest on a flood plain. I'd vote tell them to just move ! YOu want to live by the river, you takes your chances with it !

[howlee101]

32 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm pretty sure - like in the rest of the world - there is enough hill space to move !

 

My home town in the UK along the Thames just spent millions on flooding prevention to protect about 40 homes of millionaires that rest on a flood plain. I'd vote tell them to just move ! YOu want to live by the river, you takes your chances with it !

Similar when I lived in NW Florida panhandle.  People would build beach front houses on the barrier island then complain because their houses got destroyed during a hurricane....most without insurance because no insurance company would cover them.

[kidneyw]

6 hours ago, petermik said:

Rest assured I`m certain the PM will have a simple solution to this.........

He will just tell them to move to higher ground.

[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, proton said:

Where in Samut Prakan, it's not just east of Bangkok, it's also south west

near the coast?

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

near the coast?

Wondering the same.  Was it actual coastal waters, or simply poor management of rain water/storm drains, as usual countrywide.

 

Where I am, the Gulf is really in a very low tide session now.  

Edited July 16, 2022 by KhunLA

[proton]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

near the coast?

We are near the cost in Samut Prakan but no floods at all here, they never got round to concreting over the klongs and most of the shrimp farms still exist.

[ThailandRyan]

17 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

Thailand, it remains a third world country.

Apparently it looks like very difficult to do enough protection to avoid this.

It doesn't have to cost that much to protect your own people.

For example , buy less submarines.

So Thailand is the only country that floods during certain seasons? Really?  I Think you need to look over in Europe, the US, and other 1st world countries to see flooding there as well every year.

[KhaoNiaw]

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

near the coast?

The pictures look like they're in Paknam town, right in front of the market. 

[Peterphuket]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So Thailand is the only country that floods during certain seasons? Really?  I Think you need to look over in Europe, the US, and other 1st world countries to see flooding there as well every year.

Well the country where I come from is for 80% below sea level and YES we spend since 1953 money to avoid this.

Now its your turn.

[Jai Dee]

A couple of off-topic posts have been removed.

[nauseus]

The full moon of the 13th marked the first of 3 days of spring tides which were predicted to be higher than average springs. Flooding in Samut Prakan was worsened by strong winds off the sea, rain and poor drainage.

 

The navy met office should know that the high tides will decrease in height from today, Saturday.

 

[pegman]

On 7/15/2022 at 10:04 PM, ThailandRyan said:

So Thailand is the only country that floods during certain seasons? Really?  I Think you need to look over in Europe, the US, and other 1st world countries to see flooding there as well every year.

The story says during regular ocean tides. Is that a yearly thing on the coasts in the US or Europe? Funny raising sea levels is not mentioned in the article. This will get more common. 

 

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

Edited July 17, 2022 by pegman

[nauseus]

12 hours ago, pegman said:

The story says during regular ocean tides. Is that a yearly thing on the coasts in the US or Europe? Funny raising sea levels is not mentioned in the article. This will get more common. 

 

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

This problem was coincident with unusually (but predicted) high tides and seasonal weather. Spring tides generally occur twice per month, everywhere. There are many previous examples of flooding in this area for the same reasons.

 

Tides and sea-level changes are not the same. Global sea-levels have been varying for billions of years. 

[pegman]

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

This problem was coincident with unusually (but predicted) high tides and seasonal weather. Spring tides generally occur twice per month, everywhere. There are many previous examples of flooding in this area for the same reasons.

 

Tides and sea-level changes are not the same. Global sea-levels have been varying for billions of years. 

Disagree,  phenomenal such as high tides and storm surges are exasperated by the rise in sea levels. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Disagree,  phenomenal such as high tides and storm surges are exasperated by the rise in sea levels. 

They can amplify the effects of floods but the three are separate phenomena, driven by different engines. 

[ozimoron]

10 hours ago, nauseus said:

This problem was coincident with unusually (but predicted) high tides and seasonal weather. Spring tides generally occur twice per month, everywhere. There are many previous examples of flooding in this area for the same reasons.

 

Tides and sea-level changes are not the same. Global sea-levels have been varying for billions of years. 

Global sea levels have been varying due to natural causes in the past but now they are not naturally caused, they are caused by humans. There is no controversy over this proposition and there are millions of scientific documents and online articles supporting my claim, including the one you linked.

 

From your link.

 

The ocean is absorbing more than 90 percent of the increased atmospheric heat associated with emissions from human activity.

 

With continued ocean and atmospheric warming, sea levels will likely rise for many centuries at rates higher than that of the current century.

 

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From about 3,000 years ago to about 100 years ago, sea levels naturally rose and declined slightly, with little change in the overall trend. Over the past 100 years, global temperatures have risen about 1 degree C (1.8 degrees F), with sea level response to that warming totaling about 160 to 210 mm (with about half of that amount occurring since 1993), or about 6 to 8 inches. And the current rate of sea-level rise is unprecedented over the past several millennia.

 

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/13/how-long-have-sea-levels-been-rising-how-does-recent-sea-level-rise-compare-to-that-over-the-previous/

 

 

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by ozimoron

[Sparktrader]

chose to assess the sea-level trend from 1915-45, when a genuine, independently confirmed warming of approximately 0.5 degree Celsius occurred. I note particularly that sea-level rise is not affected by the warming; it continues at the same rate, 1.8 millimeters a year, according to a 1990 review by Andrew S. Trupin and John Wahr

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sea-is-rising-but-not-because-of-climate-change-1526423254

[Sparktrader]

2 hours ago, pegman said:

Disagree,  phenomenal such as high tides and storm surges are exasperated by the rise in sea levels. 

By 2 or 3mm? Not really. King tides are much larger.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

By 2 or 3mm? Not really. King tides are much larger.

Link? I just posted an article by NASA which declared it to be 6 to 8 inches.

Edited July 18, 2022 by ozimoron

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Link? I just posted an article by NASA which declared it to be 6 to 8 inches.

2 or 3mm a year.

[KIngsofisaan]

On 7/15/2022 at 5:24 AM, Peterphuket said:

Thailand, it remains a third world country.

Apparently it looks like very difficult to do enough protection to avoid this.

It doesn't have to cost that much to protect your own people.

For example , buy less submarines.

Submarines solve the #1 problem in Thailand.

 

Putting corruption money in their own pockets!

[nauseus]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Human-induced greenhouse gas emissions are the only factors that can account for the observed warming over the last century that is driving the observed sea-level rise; there are no credible alternative human or natural explanations supported by the observational evidence.

 

Previous estimates show that human activities are responsible for about 70% of the observed sea-level rise since 1970, with the percentage approaching 100% as time goes on.

 

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/14/how-much-do-human-activities-contribute-to-sea-level-rise/

 

Let's put things in perspective a bit.

 

The last ice age ended about 10ka ago and at the height of this (20ka) the oceans were about 120m lower than now. About 125ka ago, the last warm period saw seas at around 5.5m higher than they are now. So, although much slower, this shows that certain factors have contributed to, and affected, the climate on a huge scale long before any human influence/activity could have altered much. Now, we are still in this continuing long-term warming period, which must also have some small effect, even now.

 

https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/coastline-eastern-us-changesslowly#:~:text=During the last ice age glaciers covered almost one-third,higher than they are now.

 

 

It is also well recorded that Bangkok is sinking, with subsidence after excessive ground water extraction, which will raise local flooding risk. And years of mangrove clearance has also made for more flooding but this is slowly being reversed now (I hope).       

 

https://www.tcijthai.com/news/2015/08/english/5725

     

[metisdead]

A number of off topic deflection posts about global warming/climate change have been removed.