Why isn't every male in the UK living in thailand?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

That strippers in the UK are overweight and unattractive, especially compared with those found in Thailand.  A subjective opinion, but I think I would agree.  Haven't (knowingly) seen any in the flesh in either country, but from the media it certainly seems to be true, IMHO.

 

I believe it's a common view that the UK has some of the ugliest women in the world.  Most have very masculine faces and are on the large side.  Even average/below average girls in Thailand - slim, jet black hair and brown skin - would be like models in the UK.

 

You can totally understand why men make the switch, especially once you factor in the attitude.  Due to the cancer that is Western feminism, many women in the UK have the bizarre expectation that they can behave like "modern women" but still demand a "traditional man".

According to the text in the OP they are lap dancers, not strippers. Lap dancers wear scanty clothing but far as I know do not get naked. Mind you, I wouldn't want to see any in that photo naked.

 

Also, I never saw a stripper in Thailand. Plenty of naked dancers, but no striptease as done in western countries.

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Most of the men I knew in the UK just learned to live without sex.

And these were mostly married men.

The UK is a pretty messed up place for men.  Especially when they get older.  No matter how much people try to pretend, men bring money and women bring their bodies.  It always has been this way and always will be.  The proportions may vary, but a poor man and a fat ugly woman are always going to find it hard to pair up.

 

If a couple of the same age marry and spend their lives together, by the time they are 50 the man is still working hard and the "body" that the woman provided is a distant memory.  I believe that what used to make this OK was the need for the woman to stay chaste and the need to marry before people could have sex.  The woman saved herself for marriage, and the man followed through with it until death, even when the woman was no longer attractive.  There was balance.

 

Once feminism came along and changed all that, it was pretty obvious that men with money and grown up kids were very likely to start looking elsewhere.  The social contract was broken and some men still have options.

[BangkokReady]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

According to the text in the OP they are lap dancers, not strippers. Lap dancers wear scanty clothing but far as I know do not get naked. Mind you, I wouldn't want to see any in that photo naked.

 

Also, I never saw a stripper in Thailand. Plenty of naked dancers, but no striptease as done in western countries.

As I said, I'm no expert, but I think the overall message is clear.  Women who get paid to do this thing are far more attractive in Thailand than in the UK.

[BangkokReady]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I was once approached by a hooker at King's Cross Station in London. I wasn't interested as I was having holidays in LOS then, but I played along to find out how much it would cost.

I can't give the amount as against forum rules to go into specifics, but when she told me it was XX quid for quickie it was all I could do not to laugh in her face.

I would imagine something like 10 or 20 times the rate in Thailand.

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Because many guys are happy and content with their life in the U.K and they would rather be with Family and friends, rather than with people whom you need to pay to be with you 

Many Western men find that they need to be able to provide a certain level of income to be able to marry and start a family, and often financial troubles lead to divorce.  The idea that you don't need to pay someone to be with you in the West is a bit of a red herring.

 

I'm sure you've heard something like "I'm looking for a guy with goals, someone who takes their career seriously".  It's still all about money, it's just disguised with "clever" language.

 

If you think about there being a requirement to earn in the West and a relationship breakdown if you fail to do so, paying a woman to be with you in Thailand suddenly doesn't seem that bizarre.

 

It's a bit of a smokescreen that you don't have to pay for love and sex in our home countries, it just isn't directly spoken about the way it is in Thailand.

[Boomer6969]

3 hours ago, simon43 said:

What message is that picture meant to convey?  

Undoable?

[BritManToo]

29 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I believe it's a common view that the UK has some of the ugliest women in the world.  Most have very masculine faces and are on the large side.  Even average/below average girls in Thailand - slim, jet black hair and brown skin - would be like models in the UK.

Australia is even worse, my Brit son impregnated an Oz girl, she was much bigger, tougher and more manly than him.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

The UK is a pretty messed up place for men.  Especially when they get older.  No matter how much people try to pretend, men bring money and women bring their bodies.  It always has been this way and always will be.  The proportions may vary, but a poor man and a fat ugly woman are always going to find it hard to pair up.

 

If a couple of the same age marry and spend their lives together, by the time they are 50 the man is still working hard and the "body" that the woman provided is a distant memory.  I believe that what used to make this OK was the need for the woman to stay chaste and the need to marry before people could have sex.  The woman saved herself for marriage, and the man followed through with it until death, even when the woman was no longer attractive.  There was balance.

 

Once feminism came along and changed all that, it was pretty obvious that men with money and grown up kids were very likely to start looking elsewhere.  The social contract was broken and some men still have options.

Back then ordinary couples had to marry to get descendants to support them in old age, and the woman had to stay home to do all the things men didn't have time to do, like laundry by hand and cooking meals.

The men had to work long hours and probably died quite young.

 

Nobody has to have children anymore as the state looks after us if we get too decrepit, and machines do all the work, so no one has to stay at home  ( and with the price of houses both have to work anyway ).

 

IMO the reason to get married no longer exists and we live long enough for our partners to look old and unattractive. I'm not at all surprised that marriage is a failed construct and men with money look elsewhere.

Sooner or later men will wise up and stop getting married at all.

[Kwasaki]

7 hours ago, Grecian said:

story isn't important, the pic is. 

Not exactly the one and only reason to live in Thailand when you can retired early and are in good health you can have a better life here than in UK.

I would like my youngest son to retire early here, he like it here and it aware enough also everything is here for him already if he wants to. 

[BritManToo]

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

According to the text in the OP they are lap dancers, not strippers. Lap dancers wear scanty clothing but far as I know do not get naked. Mind you, I wouldn't want to see any in that photo naked.

I only encountered lap dancers in Canada (Pussy Palace/Beef Baron franchise, London, Ontario 1990s). All the dancers were slim university students wearing only bikini bottoms. $1 a dance, beer was also $1 small bottle.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Many Western men find that they need to be able to provide a certain level of income to be able to marry and start a family, and often financial troubles lead to divorce.  The idea that you don't need to pay someone to be with you in the West is a bit of a red herring.

 

I'm sure you've heard something like "I'm looking for a guy with goals, someone who takes their career seriously".  It's still all about money, it's just disguised with "clever" language.

 

If you think about there being a requirement to earn in the West and a relationship breakdown if you fail to do so, paying a woman to be with you in Thailand suddenly doesn't seem that bizarre.

 

It's a bit of a smokescreen that you don't have to pay for love and sex in our home countries, it just isn't directly spoken about the way it is in Thailand.

I always drove a decrepit car, didn't have a house after my first partner got it when we broke up, worked as a nurse so had little money and had ZERO offers from women looking to partner up.

Yes, it's all about the money, given that ugly, unpleasant men with money never have a problem attracting women.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I only encountered lap dancers in Canada (Pussy Palace/Beef Baron franchise, London, Ontario 1990s). All the dancers were slim university students wearing only bikini bottoms. $1 a dance, beer was also $1 small bottle.

Did you get to fondle them like gogo dancers in LOS, or was it dances only?

[BritManToo]

12 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

It's a bit of a smokescreen that you don't have to pay for love and sex in our home countries, it just isn't directly spoken about the way it is in Thailand.

I never paid for sex in the UK, married 30 years and never got much.

[jvs]

43 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I haven't paid for sex in either place, so I'm no expert, but I believe that in the UK the women are far more expensive, far less attractive and the stigma is far greater.

 

Even in terms of dating a much younger woman and paying a monthly fee, you would need to be a rich guy to even hope for it.

No matter where you live there is no such thing as free sex.

Unless you fool yourself by saying that wining and dining etc

will get you a free bee.

First of all you will have to listen to the whining during dining.

 

[BritManToo]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Did you get to fondle them like gogo dancers in LOS, or was it dances only?

Then pinned your arms by kneeling on them, but to be fair they did rub themselves all over your face.

[jvs]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I never paid for sex in the UK, married 30 years and never got much.

How much did you say again your ex got? Never paid ?

Hidden cost,how much per time?

 

[jak2002003]

4 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

The answer is a simple one.

 

Not that many men are that desparate, cannot afford to live in their own country, and have to pay for sex.

....Or they don't want to marry an uneducated prostitute who had sex with hundreds of fat old men and is only with them for their money.....and who are messed up in the head (and will rip you off at the earlies opportunity...so you can never really trust them).

 

 

[BangkokReady]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Australia is even worse, my Brit son impregnated an Oz girl, she was much bigger, tougher and more manly than him.

I've never been to Oz, but I've seen some of them on TV and the women there seem more manly than most men in the UK.

 

Asian women seem to have it a lot more sorted (some of them anyway).  Stay attractive, behave in a feminine way, support your man, but be clear what you expect from the relationship in return.  Western women are mostly looking to "buy champagne with Kool-Aid money", as our American friends would say.

[BritManToo]

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I always drove a decrepit car, didn't have a house after my first partner got it when we broke up, worked as a nurse so had little money and had ZERO offers from women looking to partner up.

Yes, it's all about the money, given that ugly, unpleasant men with money never have a problem attracting women.

My best pal is a strong good looking muscular athletic black guy with a great personality.

One minor quirk, he never had any desire to buy a house, said it took too much of his income.

He never had one relationship in the UK (London), but had many attractive girlfriends (supermodel quality) that all dumped him a few weeks after the first date. 

He was always going on about how no woman ever dated him for long and he couldn't understand why.

I asked him, did he mention his 'not ever buying a house' before he got dumped?

He went away and thought about it ........ then later returned and said "you're right, they all dumped me after I said I would never buy a house".

 

Problem solved, no free house = no relationship in the UK.

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, jvs said:

How much did you say again your ex got? Never paid ?

Hidden cost,how much per time?

 

I estimated between 5,000-10,000 pounds a poke.

[BritManToo]

17 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

....Or they don't want to marry an uneducated prostitute who had sex with hundreds of fat old men and is only with them for their money.....and who are messed up in the head (and will rip you off at the earlies opportunity...so you can never really trust them).

 

 

Would point out you can never really trust any woman ...... even if you're Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Paul McCartney, Robin Williams, Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates.

 

When these guys can't keep their women, what chance do us plebs have?

Paul McCartney, famous musician, mega rich couldn't even afford a whole one!

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As for the guy who spent $1000 on a woman he wasn't engaged to- is he desperate or what?

Go out 8 times for $1000 in the US seems like peanuts these days. Unless they were eating burritos, dinner alone is going to range from $60 to $100 per person. This is why Thailand is better.

[John Drake]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Most of the men I knew in the UK just learned to live without sex.

And these were mostly married men.

It's the microplastics in the water.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

It's the microplastics in the water.

More likely the hormones from the contraceptive pill in the water.

In London they say the water passed through 5 people before you drink it.

Contraceptive hormones don't degrade and are mainly flushed out of the woman's body through urine.

[stoner]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And woe are my single friends here. One just told me after 8 dates, over $1000 spent on meals, concerts, etc. she just informed him she does not think they are compatible. Huh? 

price check isle 4 please. ????

 

[cdemundo]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

Many Western men find that they need to be able to provide a certain level of income to be able to marry and start a family, and often financial troubles lead to divorce.  The idea that you don't need to pay someone to be with you in the West is a bit of a red herring.

 

I'm sure you've heard something like "I'm looking for a guy with goals, someone who takes their career seriously".  It's still all about money, it's just disguised with "clever" language.

 

If you think about there being a requirement to earn in the West and a relationship breakdown if you fail to do so, paying a woman to be with you in Thailand suddenly doesn't seem that bizarre.

 

It's a bit of a smokescreen that you don't have to pay for love and sex in our home countries, it just isn't directly spoken about the way it is in Thailand.

"The idea that you don't need to pay someone to be with you in the West is a bit of a red herring."

 

Absolutely, payment is just structured differently.

 

I once heard a radio program about American men dating and marrying Asian women.

The narrator was an Asian American woman, at one point she was talking about an older American guy who wanted to marry and was writing to a woman in China.

The narrator said about the guy "He didn't even own his home."

As if he had a lot of nerve to want to marry when he "didn't even own a home."

How revealing is that about the economic deal underlying marriage?

And how materialistic is the radio "journalist"?

[Bday Prang]

6 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

The answer is a simple one.

 

Not that many men are that desparate, cannot afford to live in their own country, and have to pay for sex.

I have some news for you, and you had better sit down.  I'll not beat about the bush , you really need to wake up and smell the coffee and put an end to the illusion you are living under,  Listen carefully.....All men pay for sex  and if you are married or in a relationship you are paying for it every day of your life.   The big myth is that we pay prostitutes for sex. that is not true , the money paid to prostitutes is NOT for the sex act  It is paid to enable us to walk away afterwards, with NO strings attached . Simple as that.    If anybody disagrees then they are sadly but unarguably mistaken and I would recommend thinking about it for 5 minutes before posting your disagreements

[BangkokReady]

14 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

How revealing is that about the economic deal underlying marriage?

And how materialistic is the radio "journalist"?

Exactly.  In the West a man needs to prove his worthiness through not just an income, but a house and a car as well.  Unfortunately, shaming men has become fairly mainstream in the US/UK.

 

The attraction is quite simple.  Western men who marry Eastern women simply get more (or anything) for their money.  In many Western relationships, what the man provides is taken for granted and there is little expectation put upon the woman.  There is a pretence of equality, but it only goes in one direction. 

 

It's quite logical that, since they need to achieve a certain level of wealth in order to marry back home, Western men are looking abroad.  Of course, Western women don't like losing their monopoly, so they attempt to shame men to prevent them from seeking out a better deal.

 

The big lie is that Western women aren't marrying for money while Eastern women are only staying with someone because they are being paid to do so.

[OneMoreFarang]

It seems by now most male adults in the west have accepted what the women tell them.

They accept that it's up to the women to have from time to time a good heart and let the men have a little bit of sex.

The women made them also believe that guys should look for women in their own age group. And a good heart is obviously more important than good looks.

And men must do homework, change the diapers, etc. and must smile doing that and pretend they like it.

 

After years of such treatment there are not many men left who admit to themselves that what they really want is a hot young girl, lots of sex and obviously not women's work at home.

If they would tell a women back home that they want to go to Thailand for a holiday they will hear lots of s$### what an a$#hole they are. And perverts, going after poor girls who only want to feed their family. 

 

So how many guys still admit to themselves what they really want? And how many then go for it?

 

[Bday Prang]

49 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

More likely the hormones from the contraceptive pill in the water.

In London they say the water passed through 5 people before you drink it.

Contraceptive hormones don't degrade and are mainly flushed out of the woman's body through urine.

Absolutely true. I read that as a result of the hormones from the pill which are present in the water most men have lower spermcounts and testosterone levels than their fathers and grandfathers, and just in case a certain member is reading this  Sorry I can't be bothered finding a link