POLITICS Trump says FBI raiding his Mar-a-Lago home

[Slip]

4 minutes ago, Slip said:

McCarthy is doing just what you do here every day.  Playing dumb and pretending.  Make an accusation with no basis, then deflect repeatedly.

Read my post carefully, then respond appropriately if you want.  Otherwise don't pollute the thread with your normal pendantry and claims of not really understanding the issues on which you comment.  If you can do that I may respond again.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What accusation have I made ?

You're amplifying what McCarthy said which is tantamount to stating that as your own opinion. Otherwise what point were you making? We all know that McCarthy said it was political. Nowhere has he said he was just wanting to make sure the rules were followed (missing link form you) and he has said he will seek revenge if the GOP take the house in November.

[habanero]

On 8/8/2022 at 7:10 PM, LarrySR said:

Trump has already called on his base to “protest like they never seen before” if he is indicted. 
A sudden increase is security presence at the court houses in NY, GA or DC will indicate the arrest is imminent. 
 

 

Why don't you tell the truth? He has called on people to protest if the Feds to anything illegal!

[habanero]

7 hours ago, Berkshire said:

It's not that Trump lies more than any other President...or even politician.  It's that Trump lies more than any human being who's ever walked the Earth. 

With that comment, you fall right in with them then.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, habanero said:

Why don't you tell the truth? He has called on people to protest if the Feds to anything illegal!

Where did he say "If"? Link please.

 

Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday suggested the Federal Bureau of Investigation may have "planted" evidence against him during a search at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Monday.

In an angry rant planted on Truth Social, Trump cast aspersions at the FBI for executing a search warrant on his property.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/fbi-trump/

Edited August 10, 2022 by ozimoron

[scorecard]

On 8/9/2022 at 8:17 AM, JonnyF said:

Wow. State sponsored raids on the homes of political rivals?

 

The USA is looking more and more like a third world banana republic every day.

Was ir really/actually 'state sponsored' or was it a result of someone (a clown) breaking a serious law and the appropriate authority doing their assigned job according to the law?

 

Seems to me very clearly that it was the later.

Edited August 10, 2022 by scorecard

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You're amplifying what McCarthy said which is tantamount to stating that as your own opinion. Otherwise what point were you making? We all know that McCarthy said it was political. Nowhere has he said he was just wanting to make sure the rules were followed (missing link form you) and he has said he will seek revenge if the GOP take the house in November.

He will investigate the raid on Trump , to make sure it wasn't Political and everything was in order .

   Stands to reason doesn't it ?

If he investigates and everything is in order , then there's no more action to be taken .

  Ans BTW , saying what other people have said , doesn't mean I think the same as they do .

   McCarthy has an opinion and I stated his opinion 

[Slip]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

He will investigate the raid on Trump , to make sure it wasn't Political and everything was in order .

   Stands to reason doesn't it ?

If he investigates and everything is in order , then there's no more action to be taken .

  Ans BTW , saying what other people have said , doesn't mean I think the same as they do .

   McCarthy has an opinion and I stated his opinion 

He has no standing to investigate.  He is muck raking.  But it's not like it hasn't been done by the GOP before to no end.   The sad thing for the current crop of repugs is so many of them have broken the law.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Couple of choice statements made by Trump

 

Aug. 18, 2016:

In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law."

 

Sept. 7, 2016:

"One of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information."

 

Came back to bite him

 

Feb. 2022

Trump improperly took away classified material, National Archives says. Archives says it has alerted Department of Justice about former president’s removal of files from White House.

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He will investigate the raid on Trump , to make sure it wasn't Political and everything was in order .

   Stands to reason doesn't it ?

If he investigates and everything is in order , then there's no more action to be taken .

  Ans BTW , saying what other people have said , doesn't mean I think the same as they do .

   McCarthy has an opinion and I stated his opinion 

No, as I said he isn't that unsophisticated or uniformed. He has direct access to the FBI itself, he's on the intelligence committee. We all know his opinion and so you repeated it for what reason? Echoing his words lets you off the hook for having to justify your claim. Start engaging in meaningful debate that's more ingenuous.

 

It's like saying. Q said the democrats.. blah blah... pizzagate. Amplifying clearly disingenuous positions without taking any responsibility for your post.

Edited August 10, 2022 by ozimoron

[ozimoron]

Donald Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment and wouldn’t answer questions under oath in the New York attorney general’s long-running civil investigation into his business dealings, the former president said in a statement Wednesday.

 

“I once asked, ‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’ Now I know the answer to that question,” the statement said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ny-investigation-testimony-a4e6264d44b194d24dfb916ffc7f51ca

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

C

Feb. 2022

Trump improperly took away classified material, National Archives says. Archives says it has alerted Department of Justice about former president’s removal of files from White House.

What was the outcome of that ?

 

"The National Archives did not 'find' anything, they were given, upon request, presidential records in an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act," Trump said in a written statement.

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-took-classified-material-white-house-florida-national-archives-says-2022-02-18/

[david555]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Donald Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment and wouldn’t answer questions under oath in the New York attorney general’s long-running civil investigation into his business dealings, the former president said in a statement Wednesday.

 

“I once asked, ‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’ Now I know the answer to that question,” the statement said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ny-investigation-testimony-a4e6264d44b194d24dfb916ffc7f51ca

oho , how many in Hillary case connected took the fifth amendment also ? ,......Now something comes biting you .....????

[Slip]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What was the outcome of that ?

 

"The National Archives did not 'find' anything, they were given, upon request, presidential records in an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act," Trump said in a written statement.

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-took-classified-material-white-house-florida-national-archives-says-2022-02-18/

...said Donald Trump.  Laughably poor on two counts.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What was the outcome of that ?

 

"The National Archives did not 'find' anything, they were given, upon request, presidential records in an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act," Trump said in a written statement.

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-took-classified-material-white-house-florida-national-archives-says-2022-02-18/

That was back in February. If it was true then why did young Eric tell the press they were still in negotiations at the current time. It doesn't take months to hand over requested records which he was legally compelled to do.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What was the outcome of that ?

 

"The National Archives did not 'find' anything, they were given, upon request, presidential records in an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act," Trump said in a written statement.

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-took-classified-material-white-house-florida-national-archives-says-2022-02-18/

Outcome? FBI raid yesterday with boxes taken away for examination

[Slip]

Just now, david555 said:

oho , how many in Hillary case connected took the fifth amendment also ? ,......Now something comes biting you .....????

Ooh!  Interesting. 

Do tell. 

(The truth though).

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

oho , how many in Hillary case connected took the fifth amendment also ? ,......Now something comes biting you .....????

That's right. That's when Trump was against it before he was for it. ????

[david555]

Just now, ozimoron said:

That's right. That's when Trump was against it before he was for it. ????

Seems all sides using it .....????

[david555]

2 minutes ago, Slip said:

Ooh!  Interesting. 

Do tell. 

(The truth though).

The whole story ...? to long to tell , specially the smashing phones instead of deliver them for investigating ..... come on you sure know it all ....????

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

The whole story ...? to long to tell , specially the smashing phones instead of deliver them for investigating ..... come on you sure know it all ....????

Is this about Trump? You're not engaging in off topic whataboutery are you?

[Woof999]

Can we please start calling the USA just SA? Nothing United about it at all. Ah that might annoy South Africa. I'll ask some word specialists for alternatives.

 

Trump knows specialists. He has the best specialists. Some of the most bigly specialists ever.

 

COVFEFE

[david555]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Is this about Trump? You're not engaging in off topic whataboutery are you?

I knew that comment would come as it came inconvenient for you ???? , but the similarity's are there and the  not equal judging handling ....

 

O.K. i made the hitting  point and go now backstage again .....???? 

[Slip]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

The whole story ...? to long to tell , specially the smashing phones instead of deliver them for investigating ..... come on you sure know it all ....????

I would be happy with the answer to how many took the 5th regarding cases regarding Hillary Clinton.  (I'm easily pleased).  So looking forward to your answer by return.

[david555]

5 minutes ago, Slip said:

I would be happy with the answer to how many took the 5th regarding cases regarding Hillary Clinton.  (I'm easily pleased).  So looking forward to your answer by return.

As a European i did not even remember their names , but i saw the investigating commission on tv , and was surprised so many just blatant said the lines  ".....taking the  5 th amendment "   

 You know it very well  they did , or else just go to Wikipedia ...????

Edited August 10, 2022 by david555

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, david555 said:

I knew that comment would come as it came inconvenient for you ???? , but the similarity's are there and the  not equal judging handling ....

 

O.K. i made the hitting  point and go now backstage again .....???? 

I would have happily responded but you broke the rules of the forum in order to troll me as you just confessed to doing.

Edited August 10, 2022 by ozimoron

[david555]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

I would have happily responded but you broke the rules of the forum in order to troll me as you just confessed to doing.

?????   oh ....the trolling excuse if not agreed ....i see ????

[Slip]

9 minutes ago, david555 said:

As a European i did not even remember their names , but i saw the investigating commission on tv , and was surprised so many just blatant said the lines  ".....taking the  5 th amendment "   

 You know it very well  they did , or else just go to Wikipedia ...????

So nothing at all.  I can't believe someone just accused you of being a troll.  Bye.

[spidermike007]

22 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The following morning, the billionaire Trump sent out emails asking for money.

“I need every single red-blooded American Patriot to step up during this time,” read the email. “Please rush in a donation IMMEDIATELY to publicly stand with me against this NEVERENDING WITCH HUNT.”

 

https://nordot.app/929783457074577408?c=592622757532812385

"Patriot funds for the master promoter". You don't know where they are going, or how the money is going to be used, but trust him. 

 

For a self proclaimed multi billionaire, he sure seems unable or reluctant to use his own funds for anything political. Does self entitled come to mind? 

Edited August 10, 2022 by spidermike007

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Most likely he will be eventually indicted for one or more charges by the DOJ and or Georgia. I doubt the DOJ will act before the midterms. I have learned though that if convicted he will probably just get home incarceration because of the  need for secret service protection. So no more golf and no more rallies. The poor dear.

You are likely correct. I doubt they would seek jail time for an ex prez. It would be precedent setting, and it would be absolutely lovely to see. But, I doubt it will happen. Unfortunately.