proton Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) Are these cars worth considering? Appears they are available here but how do they stand up to say a Toyota for reliability and service? Edited August 20, 2022 by proton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Chinese made, same company as Great Wall SUV's..... for somebody who knows a little about Chinese cars, yes Haval is better then the QQ from Chery 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 They're becomming popular here, see more and more about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, proton said: how do they stand up to say a Toyota for reliability and service? Modern Chinese cars are not known for unreliability or bad dealer service. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted August 20, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Modern Chinese cars are not known for unreliability or bad dealer service. Chinese are they, well they are off the list of possibles, along with anything else I can avoid like their phones Edited August 20, 2022 by proton 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted August 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, proton said: Chinese are they, well they are off the list of possibles, along with anything else I can avoid like their phones You didn't know that they were Chinese? Your non-Chinese phone wouldn't work very well without its (more likely than not) Chinese battery! Edited August 20, 2022 by Liverpool Lou 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted August 20, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: You didn't know that they were Chinese? Your non-Chinese phone wouldn't work very well without its (more likely than not) Chinese battery! It may be not possible to avoid the CCP produced goods entirely, but it is to avoid them as much as you can. Batteries are hardly comparable to cars. If they were from Taiwan I would consider buying one, CCP Chinese, no way. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, proton said: Batteries are hardly comparable to cars. You brought up the subject of phones, not me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted August 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2022 Test driven both the H6 and Jolion hybrids here in Thailand and was very impressed. Build quality and performance were very good. Only think I didn't like was the use of too much hard plastic around the dash and doors but it's only a minor irritation. Waiting on the H6 PHEV with the bigger battery though. GWM showrooms seem to be springing up everywhere which is reassuring. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 hours ago, proton said: Chinese are they, well they are off the list of possibles, along with anything else I can avoid like their phones and x 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, edwinchester said: Test driven both the H6 and Jolion hybrids here in Thailand and was very impressed. Build quality and performance were very good. Only think I didn't like was the use of too much hard plastic around the dash and doors but it's only a minor irritation. Waiting on the H6 PHEV with the bigger battery though. GWM showrooms seem to be springing up everywhere which is reassuring. are these "new bigger" batteries the ones they copied from Tesla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted August 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2022 8 hours ago, proton said: Are these cars worth considering? Posts like this make me laugh who knows what you like, go test drive, buy one and find out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 8 hours ago, proton said: Chinese are they, well they are off the list of possibles, along with anything else I can avoid like their phones Your loss. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 hours ago, edwinchester said: Test driven both the H6 and Jolion hybrids here in Thailand and was very impressed. Build quality and performance were very good. Only think I didn't like was the use of too much hard plastic around the dash and doors but it's only a minor irritation. Waiting on the H6 PHEV with the bigger battery though. GWM showrooms seem to be springing up everywhere which is reassuring. I’m also waiting on the H6 PHEV. NEDC range of 201 km (real world, maybe 150?) would be incredible. This would even beat out the all electric Mazda MX30 and also the Nissan Leaf? Bookings are supposed to open this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Mavideol said: are these "new bigger" batteries the ones they copied from Tesla You do realise that Tesla uses Made in China batteries, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Gweiloman said: You do realise that Tesla uses Made in China batteries, right? would like to see a link to that statement.... or did you mean "some" for the local market and yet still Tesla technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mavideol said: would like to see a link to that statement.... or did you mean "some" for the local market and yet still Tesla technology https://thedriven.io/2022/05/06/teslas-key-battery-supplier/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted August 21, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Gweiloman said: Your loss. It should be the CCP loss, these people are the enemy, not your friend. Buying Chinese, which almost always contains tech copied from the west, is only shoring up an evil system. What the hell though if you can get a slightly better deal and a few more MPG right? pathetic hypocrisy. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 20 hours ago, edwinchester said: Test driven both the H6 and Jolion hybrids here in Thailand and was very impressed. Build quality and performance were very good. Only think I didn't like was the use of too much hard plastic around the dash and doors but it's only a minor irritation. Waiting on the H6 PHEV with the bigger battery though. GWM showrooms seem to be springing up everywhere which is reassuring. The spread of Chinese companies is reassuring, wake up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, proton said: It should be the CCP loss, these people are the enemy, not your friend. Buying Chinese, which almost always contains tech copied from the west, is only shoring up an evil system. What the hell though if you can get a slightly better deal and a few more MPG right? pathetic hypocrisy. 1 hour ago, proton said: The spread of Chinese companies is reassuring, wake up! Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 This is a good video about future of GWM in Thailand. Impressive looking setup, down in Rayong. Should be good for the Thai economy and consumers. If I’m not mistaken, BYD also intends to set up a factory in Thailand soon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Mavideol said: are these "new bigger" batteries the ones they copied from Tesla Smaller batteries, only about 70kms worth as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted August 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, proton said: The spread of Chinese companies is reassuring, wake up! The after sales coverage will be good which is reassuring. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 1:55 PM, proton said: Chinese are they, well they are off the list of possibles, along with anything else I can avoid like their phones So no apple phones then, which are made in China, or even some of the other cars that are made in China or supplied parts made in China. Your going to have to look far and wide to find something that has no China connection. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, proton said: The spread of Chinese companies is reassuring, wake up! Your going to be waiting for decades to get away from anything made without Chinese parts.....good luck, might just get a bicycle and you will be all set. Oops I spoke out of turn. https://bikeclue.com/are-raleigh-bikes-made-in-china/ Edited August 21, 2022 by ThailandRyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Gweiloman said: This is a good video about future of GWM in Thailand. Impressive looking setup, down in Rayong. Should be good for the Thai economy and consumers. If I’m not mistaken, BYD also intends to set up a factory in Thailand soon. MG is already building cars here in Thailand. I was at the dealership yesterday for a service and saw the new MG VS HEV https://paultan.org/2022/08/08/mg-vs-hev-hybrid-launched-in-thailand-honda-hr-v-toyota-c-hr-and-nissan-kicks-competitor-fr-rm107k/ https://www.mgcars.com/en/NewsActivities/Detail/NEW-MG-VS-HEV-LAUNCH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted August 21, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Your going to be waiting for decades to get away from anything made without Chinese parts.....good luck, might just get a bicycle and you will be all set. Oops I spoke out of turn. https://bikeclue.com/are-raleigh-bikes-made-in-china/ Silly excuse, it's not about avoiding parts but avoiding CCP companies. We should be restricting our support of the Chinese economy as much as possible. Buy Japanese, Korean or American with a few Chinese parts is far more ethical than buying from a red Chinese company. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted August 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, proton said: Silly excuse, it's not about avoiding parts but avoiding CCP companies. We should be restricting our support of the Chinese economy as much as possible. Buy Japanese, Korean or American with a few Chinese parts is far more ethical than buying from a red Chinese company. Yet your still buying something with parts made and bought from the CCP. Are you sure your not trying to minimize your view now and some CCP parts are ok. With your original statements, you stated that nothing CCP is appropriate as it is copied from the west........back peddling now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted August 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 So the OP didn’t know that GWM was a Chinese brand ? Great Wall Motors wasn’t a big enough clue ?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said: So the OP didn’t know that GWM was a Chinese brand ? Great Wall Motors wasn’t a big enough clue ?? Never heard of them until Tim Newton said he had bought one. Amazing the amount of CCP supporters there are on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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