45 day visa exempt - lots of questions asked at BKK airport

[bbi1]

Arrived back after over 2 years not being here. Been on an ED visa and a few METV prior since 2014.

 

Arrived on a business class ticket to BKK and took the Fast Track lane. The Lady immigration officer took a minute or so looking through my past METV and extensoon stamps and her computer screen quite intensely. Then asked about 5 questions, like how long you plan to stay, what do you do for work, which hotel you stay at, do you haveThai friends here, and she wanted the phone number of one Thai friend, which she entered into the computer, plus also my number. Never had in the past them asking if you have Thai friends and wanting their number. Usually in the non-Fast Track the person checking arrval cards ask you for your phone number and writes it on the card.

 

Anyway ,after all that and maybe 5 mins later, she stamped the 45 days.

 

Wonder if a female officer rather than a male one usually grills us more? Better to walk to a male one instead? Why would she want a.Thai friend's phone number? Anyone been asked that before?

 

This was also my first ever visa exempt entry.

[DrJack54]

Just another clerk trying to think she has relevance.

 

Ignore. Was zero reason for her questions. 

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Just another clerk trying to think she has relevance.

 

Ignore. Was zero reason for her questions. 

Nonsense, it is their job and they do have relevance. 

[scubascuba3]

The female IOs have previous of being difficult, avoid when you have the choice. Now you've got through, forget about it

[DrJack54]

6 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Nonsense, it is their job and they do have relevance. 

Nonsense.

 

From the OP......

 

"Arrived back after over 2 years not being here."

 

Over the top questions from the io..

[CANSIAM]

Look for a male IO next time, welcome back !

[Big FranK]

Even if i usually travel business class, i never go in the special line for luggage checking or immigration. Usually there are less people, so officials have plenty of time to go through your things and ask plenty of questions. Blending in the mass of travellers is always a better option.

[Iamfalang]

Here's the issue.  You, like most of us, have a history here.  ED stamps, Work Permit stamps, etc........

 

and there is still a chance they don't want you here.   one wrong answer, denied.  they don't care about your past, maybe they don't believe it...

 

yea, it's a bad feeling (happened to me once) and this just means this place isn't home.  

[scubascuba3]

24 minutes ago, Big FranK said:

Even if i usually travel business class, i never go in the special line for luggage checking or immigration. Usually there are less people, so officials have plenty of time to go through your things and ask plenty of questions. Blending in the mass of travellers is always a better option.

In the past the fast track queue was seen as less problematic, maybe that's changed

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Nonsense.

 

From the OP......

 

"Arrived back after over 2 years not being here."

 

Over the top questions from the io..

I have no idea where your problem with immigration officers come from but you have a bad understanding of their tasks. 

[DrJack54]

38 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

I have no idea where your problem with immigration officers come from but you have a bad understanding of their tasks. 

The OP had not been in Thailand for TWO years.

No questions were required.

Certainly not the ones outlined by the OP.

Her job was to stamp the pp indicating 45 day permit.

Not rocket science. 

 

BTW .. current thread running OP with similar history to OP in this thread.

Just arrived same airport and posted this ....

 

"In Thailand! You guys were right.. immigration was a breeze ????".

 

Immigration officers and consistency do not go hand in hand. 

[OJAS]

10 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Nonsense, it is their job and they do have relevance. 

Agreed. The OP's experience sounds similar to the treatment frequently meted out to Thais and other aliens wishing to enter our home countries by local immigration officers there. But in the eyes of some on here it would appear that it is only Thai immigration officers who are to be demonised for doing their job, whereas our home country immigration officers, on the other hand, are, in their view, worthy of fulsome praise in identical circumstances.

 

[sandyf]

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Her job was to stamp the pp indicating 45 day permit.

It may come as a surprise to you but the "job" of every IO in the world is to establish the credibility of those trying to enter the country.

It is certainly not up to keyboard warriors to question how they do "their" job and just keep praying the Thais never take lessons from UK immigration.

[Conrad65]

I had same experience with lady IO on arrival visa exempt ten days ago at BKK international. First asked if I had visa, and I explained no as I will enter visa exempt. Thereafter careful examination of passport with recent entry stamp and extensions (extended because was unable to get Non O at Samui immigration as per my posts elsewhere). Then asked how long I planned to stay - answered 30 days. I was not asked to provide evidence of funds or onward flight.

 

The above was handled very politely by IO and is standard line of questioning in most countries, especially if you have a recent history of visits and extensions. In the past I've even been stopped by UK immigration (I'm a UK national) and asked how long I was planning to stay (I've resided overseas all my adult life).

[BritTim]

56 minutes ago, sandyf said:

It may come as a surprise to you but the "job" of every IO in the world is to establish the credibility of those trying to enter the country.

It is certainly not up to keyboard warriors to question how they do "their" job and just keep praying the Thais never take lessons from UK immigration.

The actions of Thai immigration officials are determined by Thai law, not some universal natural law. The fact is that the Thai Immigration Act establishes significantly different rules to those you are used to with most other countries.

 

As it happens, while I still believe the actions of the official was over the top in the OP's case, her scrutiny was not as offensive as it would have been had the OP had a visa. With a visa exemption, the immigration official takes the place of a consular official in determining whether the qualifications for entry as a tourist are met.

 

That said, do not assume that Thai immigration officials have the same broad discretion that US customs and border control agents have. They operate within totally different legal frameworks.

[DrJack54]

21 minutes ago, Conrad65 said:

 

The above was handled very politely by IO and is standard line of questioning in most countries, especially if you have a recent history of visits and extensions

The questions ask of you are not what was asked of the OP.

BTW. He did not have recent history in Thailand. Had not been in Thailand for two years.

 

Funny how couple of the questions that were asked such as address in Thailand etc are fields on the tm6 which has been suspended.

The reason given "to speed up process times at airports"

 

My point....why weren't you asked for your phone number etc.

 

From the OP.....

 

"Then asked about 5 questions, like how long you plan to stay, what do you do for work, which hotel you stay at, do you haveThai friends here, and she wanted the phone number of one Thai friend, which she entered into the computer, plus also my number."

[Sparktrader]

5 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Look for a male IO next time, welcome back !

Yes males are lazy. Go in no questions.

[bbbbooboo]

Hmm… i used to think that when Thai female IOs looked tense and scowled at you, they might be having their period. I have since learned over the years that they are always like that and to be avoided if possible.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP had not been in Thailand for TWO years.

No questions were required.

Certainly not the ones outlined by the OP.

 

Not for you to decide.

People have big toes here some times it might have well been intended as a friendly chat. Even if it wasn't, answer them and move on.

[LukKrueng]

15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Just another clerk trying to think she has relevance.

 

Ignore. Was zero reason for her questions. 

How would you know? Have you seen the information she had on her screen? Maybe he was flagged for some reason?

[FritsSikkink]

5 hours ago, Iamfalang said:

Here's the issue.  You, like most of us, have a history here.  ED stamps, Work Permit stamps, etc........

 

and there is still a chance they don't want you here.   one wrong answer, denied.  they don't care about your past, maybe they don't believe it...

 

yea, it's a bad feeling (happened to me once) and this just means this place isn't home.  

Never had a problem in 40 years

[BangkokAlan]

Since they stopped the TM6 that showed your Thai phone number, place of stay and proposed leaving date some now resort to asking more questions but it's all dependent on the officer. Some ask questions and some don't.

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, BangkokAlan said:

Since they stopped the TM6 that showed your Thai phone number, place of stay and proposed leaving date some now resort to asking more questions but it's all dependent on the officer. Some ask questions and some don't.

From my earlier post......

 

"Funny how couple of the questions that were asked such as address in Thailand etc are fields on the tm6 which has been suspended.

The reason given "to speed up process times at airports"

 

seems rather stupid to suspend the TM6 then ask some of the same questions  by the io.

[Digitalbanana]

2 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Yes males are lazy. Go in no questions.

Try and fly in during a premier league football match. When I came in last weekend at BKK, the IO was just tuning his personal tablet in to watch a match live whilst briefly checking my pp. and stamping me in.

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

Try and fly in during a premier league football match. When I came in last weekend at BKK, the IO was just tuning his personal tablet in to watch a match live whilst briefly checking my pp. and stamping me in.

Hi Im Ivan Milat no worries go in

[Wiggy]

The only question I have is this: If it’s ‘visa exempt’ why is the lane leading to it called ‘Visa on Arrival’. It can’t be both. Expats know what it means, but tourists might be confused. 

[Liverpool Lou]

18 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Just another clerk trying to think she has relevance.

 

Ignore. Was zero reason for her questions. 

Just another very relevant IO doing her job.

[josephbloggs]

34 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

The only question I have is this: If it’s ‘visa exempt’ why is the lane leading to it called ‘Visa on Arrival’. It can’t be both. Expats know what it means, but tourists might be confused. 

It isn't.  The "Visa on Arrival" lane is for visas on arrival, not visa exempt.  

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Nonsense.

 

From the OP......

 

"Arrived back after over 2 years not being here."

 

Over the top questions from the io..

Nonsense.   You think that the IO didn't notice his multiple METVs and ED visa.  Perfectly normal and justifiable questions from Immigration.

[ExpatOilWorker]

9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

The female IOs have previous of being difficult, avoid when you have the choice. Now you've got through, forget about it

I was once on 4 days overstay and had the 2,000 baht ready in my shirt pocket, but the FEMALE IO was just not focused enough to count the days correctly. She never even saw I were on overstay and simply just stamped me out.