Fake Gillette razor blades SCAM on most online stores Now! !@#$%

[WaveHunter]

I would love to find an online store that sells GENUINE Gillette replacement cartridges for my Mach3+ razor but I have been scammed twice on Lazada!  Even brick and mortar stores are selling counterfeit goods now!  If you know of a trusted online store, please let me know.

 

The two orders were so bad It was like shaving with a razor that had already been used 20 times!  In fact, I wonder if it's a new scam...cleaning up used cartridges and reselling them as new LOL!

 

I just found out that it a MAJOR scam being reported for many online selling platforms such as Amazon, eBay, AliExpress, and yes...Lazada!  Considering the extraordinarily high price of genuine cartridges, it's created a perfect opportunity for counterfeiters. 

 

REPORTS:

https://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/114/Mach-3-Razor-Blades.html

https://thecounterfeitreport.com/product/113/Fusion-Razor-Blades.html

 

https://www.amazon.com/review/R1S06U3IFUIWGQ

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+gillette+razor&rlz=1C5CHFA_enTH962TH962&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjn-fjumO76AhVkzTgGHZlsDyUQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1280&bih=1306&dpr=1

 

It's a huge scam, and none of the online selling platforms such as Amazon and eBay are doing a thing to stop it!  What a crazy world we live in where scammers reign supreme!

 

Lazada has become the worst place when it comes to counterfeit items in the last year or so.  Formerly, it was very rare I had to return a product I suspected was counterfeit.  Now I'd say 1 in 10 purchases are counterfeit items!

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by WaveHunter

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, WaveHunter said:

I wonder if it's a new scams...cleaning up used cartridges and reselling them as new

It's a huge scam, and none of the online selling platforms such as Amazon and eBay are doing a thing to stop it!  What a crazy world we live in where scammers reign supreme!

 

Lazada has become the worst place when it comes to counterfeit and scammers in the last year or so.  I have had to return so many products that were counterfeit in the last year, it's just ridiculous!

Agreed....  it makes shopping online a headache.... 

 

We have to be so very careful and pay attention to the most minute of details....  the customer has protection, but its still a proper PITA having to deal with the issue that shouldn’t exist in the first place. 

 

I’ve purchased items, an obvious scam - forced the vendor (Amazon and Lazada) to refund for a fake items, but still see the shops online selling to more people. 

 

I guess there are just so many scammers out there its just too difficult to deal with them all. 

 

For things like razors etc I get directly from Boots / Watsons etc.

 

 

[CharlieH]

Pretty sure I saw those 1 hr ago in Big C.

 

 

Yes I did........

 

 

[Iamfalang]

yup.  tried some electric razors, garbage.   for years I know the 50 baht razors are horrible, but they do the job and if they are fake I don't care.............50 baht.    

 

this is LOS, where fake items are GOOD BUSINESS.   Will you boycott???!!! No, people love cheap stuff even if it's fake.   if you want real, that is for falang land or you must really spend a lot of money.   

 

if this is a WAR..........then spend 100,000,000 baht and get gillette razors from America for life.  Then be done with it.

 

Or I can send you to my friend Tham Tam Tam who has special promotion 199 baht!!!!  

 

Once in the last year a seller told me, "Sorry, don't buy that.  It's fake."   I was googling the brand on my phone without thinking.......sometimes I forget.   

 

In fact, what isn't fake.  This message was deep faked under the USSR Secret Fake Mission :  Scam Falang.    

 

 

[WaveHunter]

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed....  it makes shopping online a headache.... 

 

We have to be so very careful and pay attention to the most minute of details....  the customer has protection, but its still a proper PITA having to deal with the issue that shouldn’t exist in the first place. 

 

I’ve purchased items, an obvious scam - forced the vendor (Amazon and Lazada) to refund for a fake items, but still see the shops online selling to more people. 

 

I guess there are just so many scammers out there its just too difficult to deal with them all. 

 

For things like razors etc I get directly from Boots / Watsons etc.

 

 

It is insane!  Now, anytime I buy from a merchant on Lazada, I start off assuming I will be scammed and start a "paper trail" right off the bat by sending them a chat message before I purchase, asking them if the item is genuine, and telling them I will recognize a counterfeit if I receive one and raise hell if that happens (which I absolutely do now).  If I receive a reply, I will buy it, but it's amazing how many of those requests go unanswered LOL!

 

The one good thing I commend Lazada on is that if you do file a complaint about something being counterfeit, they act very quickly, usually telling you to just discard the item and refunding you the full amount quickly with an apology, no hassles or delays at all. 

[nahkit]

I recently purchased some Gillette Mach3 blades on line and when I received them I checked over the packet and everything looked ok but after one week of use the strip that indicates whether the blade is still good has disappeared and whilst the blade isn't uncomfortable it definitely isn't giving me a clean shave.

 

Got me wondering just how genuine they are.

[WaveHunter]

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Pretty sure I saw those 1 hr ago in Big C.

The problem is that even the brick and mortar stores are increasingly guilty of doing it (possibly unknowingly) by buying from a dishonest online wholesalers who sell on the Lazada or AliExpress platforms.

[CharlieH]

Just now, WaveHunter said:

The problem is that even the brick and mortar stores are increasingly guilty of doing it (possibly unknowingly) by buying from a dishonest online wholesalers who sell on the Lazada or AliExpress platforms.

Well atleast with Big C youd have less hassle if they not what they claim annd you can inspect BEFORE parting with any money.

[WaveHunter]

16 minutes ago, nahkit said:

I recently purchased some Gillette Mach3 blades on line and when I received them I checked over the packet and everything looked ok but after one week of use the strip that indicates whether the blade is still good has disappeared and whilst the blade isn't uncomfortable it definitely isn't giving me a clean shave.

 

Got me wondering just how genuine they are.

Most of this counterfeit (or reconditioned / repackaged) cartridges comes from China, and as is well known, the Chinese are often masters of near-perfect counterfeiting.

 

I really think it's a scam in which they get their hands on discarded blades, clean them up, put new cheap "wear" strips on them, and repackage them.  I mean, the cartridges I got were literally so dull that they could not even be used!

 

That might seem far-fetched but considering the low cost of labor in China, and the high price of genuine cartridges, it's possible.

 

A genuine Gillette mach3 cartridge normally lasts me at least 20 comfortable shaves, and is probably the best cartridge for the money I've ever bought.  The ones I received off Lazada on both occasions (from different sellers) looked identical (and when compared with a genuine Gillette cartridge, just slightly different), and on the very first use were so uncomfortable, I could not complete my shave!

Edited October 20, 2022 by WaveHunter

[lopburi3]

Actually this has been an issue for many years.  I switched to 2 or 3 replaceable blade Bic many years ago and although blades were sometimes hard to find they were normally available from Tesco and found shave just as good as Gillette.  But alas had to give up shaving due to bleeding issues and stuck with using electric these days (and indeed they are not a blade).

[WaveHunter]

5 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Actually this has been an issue for many years.  I switched to 2 or 3 replaceable blade Bic many years ago and although blades were sometimes hard to find they were normally available from Tesco and found shave just as good as Gillette.  But alas had to give up shaving due to bleeding issues and stuck with using electric these days (and indeed they are not a blade).

I use an electric razor sometimes, but nothing is as nice as a blade, and the genuine GIllette Mach 3 is like a best-in-class design providing the closest and most comfortable shave, even after 20 shaves!

[KhunBENQ]

The most you can do on Lazada is sticking to LazMall and not any "1 rating" suppliers etc.

My try would be one of these:

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/gillette-mach3-blades-12-cartridges-refills-gillette-mach3-12-i2860580917-s10435591814.html
https://www.lazada.co.th/products/6-gillette-mach-3-plus-blades-pivoting-head-wlubricant-6s-i2861114446-s10436805218.html

 

I have stopped using pricey blades since long.

I use some three blade "Bic easy click" shaver (reusable grip).

They might not last as long but still cheaper over all.

And newly they are as good as expensive ones.

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/x-2-bic-2-bic-easy-clic-razor-2-refill-blades-free-shipping-i4133579042-s16207035113.html

(I buy at shops not online)

Edited October 20, 2022 by KhunBENQ

[ezzra]

Coming back from, Oz I always stock up of theses items and similar ones with high likelihood of being fake by buying them in pharmacies and large supermarkets thus minimizing the risk of being sold a dodgy items than nowadays are everywhere and worse still, fake medicines...

[Bangkok Barry]

Try ordering from gillette.com. If you think they are expensive and you want cheaper, then you get what you pay for - fakes. Hardly rocket science. What else do you expect?

[Mavideol]

just got scammed at Lazada with "fake" Power Fusion ones, site says they are real order a pack of 4, received it but not Gillette, they fit but shaving with them it's a nightmare, complained to Lazada, asked for refund they said the money it's on the way, let's hope so but can't find the previous shop anymore, they did have the real stuff, a little more money but real Gillette

[blackcab]

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[WaveHunter]

I think I just came up with a solution...I'm thinking of changing to an old-fashioned safety razor! As crazy as the idesounded at first, after I did some research, it sounds like a safety razor can not only be less expensive, but can also provide an even better shave than any of the cartridges if you use it properly!

 

I've been reading up on them and contrary to what I thought, modern versions of safety razors have come a long way since your father's Gillette!  many consider them superior to any of the cartridge systems.

 

The cost advantage is 1) the replacement blades are super cheap compared with cartridges, and 2) I doubt they are being counterfeited at all since they are so inexpensive!

 

I found out that there is a Japanese company called "Feather" that makes, what many shaving aficionado sites like badgerandblade.com, mancave.co.nz, and westcoastshaving.com consider to make the finest safety razor blades in the world! 

 

I got that impression not just from a few online sites, but over a dozen sites and forums dealing with men's grooming.

The Feather blades are platinum and resin coated.  They have been tested by a number of review sites and considered to be the highest quality and sharpest safety razors blade made.  Typically most people get about 5-7 comfortable shaves per blade.

 

Maybe cartridge systems allow for more shaves per cartridge, but on a cost-per-shave basis, the Feather blades are by far less expensive.  Just do the math and you'll be as surprised as I was!

 

They also make the safety razor that many consider to be even better then the gold-standard German made Merkur safety razors.

 

They are both available on Lazada too!  The cost for the razor is 749 THB which is a bargain compared to the German Merkur adjustable razor which cost around 3,000 THB, and some of the reviews claim it is made better than the Merkurs which were like the Mercedes-Benz of safety razors!

 

The price for a 5-pack of the Feather blades is only 40 THB!  So, the cost per blade is 8 THB (compared to 100 THB for a typical Gillette Mach3 cartridge), and if you get 5 shaves per blade, that's just ridiculously inexpensive compared to a cartridge blade!

 

From everything I've read so far, the safety blade razor provides a closer, more comfortable shave if you use it properly.  And it's even claimed that a safety razor is better for your skin.

 

Of course there is a learning curve to using it "properly", but that sounds like a small price to pay for not being ripped off for outrageously expensive cartridge replacements, not to mention the difficulty of getting a genuine replacement! I mean, who is going to counterfeit a safety blade that only costs 8 THB retail, ya know?

 

I'm gonna go for it...why not?

Edited October 20, 2022 by WaveHunter

[userabcd]

Tops, Lotus, Villa, Foodland, Big C all sell these to some degree. Better to just buy there.

 

I guess the price is what attracts one to place an order online and then the product is not up to scratch.

[userabcd]

4 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

I think I just came up with a solution...I'm thinking of changing to an old-fashioned safety razor! As crazy as the idesounded at first, after I did some research, it sounds like a safety razor can not only be less expensive, but can also provide an even better shave than any of the cartridges if you use it properly!

 

I've been reading up on them and contrary to what I thought, modern versions of safety razors have come a long way since your father's Gillette!  many consider them superior to any of the cartridge systems.

 

The cost advantage is 1) the replacement blades are super cheap compared with cartridges, and 2) I doubt they are being counterfeited at all since they are so inexpensive!

 

I found out that there is a Japanese company called "Feather" that makes, what many shaving aficionado sites like badgerandblade.com, mancave.co.nz, and westcoastshaving.com consider to make the finest safety razor blades in the world! 

 

I got that impression not just from a few online sites, but over a dozen sites and forums dealing with men's grooming.

The Feather blades are platinum and resin coated.  They have been tested by a number of review sites and considered to be the highest quality and sharpest safety razors blade made.  Typically most people get about 5-7 comfortable shaves per blade.

 

Maybe cartridge systems allow for more shaves per cartridge, but on a cost-per-shave basis, the Feather blades are by far less expensive.  Just do the math and you'll be as surprised as I was!

 

They also make the safety razor that many consider to be even better then the gold-standard German made Merkur safety razors.

 

They are both available on Lazada too!  The cost for the razor is 749 THB which is a bargain compared to the German Merkur adjustable razor which cost around 3,000 THB, and some of the reviews claim it is made better than the Merkurs which were like the Mercedes-Benz of safety razors!

 

The price for a 5-pack of the Feather blades is only 40 THB!  So, the cost per blade is 8 THB (compared to 100 THB for a typical Gillette Mach3 cartridge), and if you get 5 shaves per blade, that's just ridiculously inexpensive compared to a cartridge blade!

 

From everything I've read so far, the safety blade razor provides a closer, more comfortable shave if you use it properly. 

 

Of course there is a learning curve to using it "properly", but that sounds like a small price to pay for not being ripped off for outrageously expensive cartridge replacements, not to mention the difficulty of getting a genuine replacement! I mean, who is going to counterfeit a safety blade that only costs 8 THB retail, ya know?

 

I'm gonna go for it...why not?

This is what I have done and feel that I even get a better shave.

[BigStar]

Ah, all you hipsters shelling out the big bucks for yer Fusions and yer Mach 3s and worrying about fakes.

 

I ain't there yet, been using a traditional safety razor and double edge blades for decades, like dear ol' Dad. Box of blades, 100 for around B200, never encountered fakes, even from India on Ebay. Sounds like I should just carry on.????

[WaveHunter]

41 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

just got scammed at Lazada with "fake" Power Fusion ones, site says they are real order a pack of 4, received it but not Gillette, they fit but shaving with them it's a nightmare, complained to Lazada, asked for refund they said the money it's on the way, let's hope so but can't find the previous shop anymore, they did have the real stuff, a little more money but real Gillette

My experience with Lazada is they are very good about providing no-hassle refunds when you claim suspicion of a counterfeit item on their platform.  In fact, IMO, they have excellent overall customer service when it comes to a dispute for any reason at all.

[WaveHunter]

52 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Try ordering from gillette.com. If you think they are expensive and you want cheaper, then you get what you pay for - fakes. Hardly rocket science. What else do you expect?

I expect an online merchant to be honest (as some are) and say it is "compatible" not "genuine.

[WaveHunter]

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Ah, all you hipsters shelling out the big bucks for yer Fusions and yer Mach 3s and worrying about fakes.

 

I ain't there yet, been using a traditional safety razor and double edge blades for decades, like dear ol' Dad. Box of blades, 100 for around B200, never encountered fakes, even from India on Ebay. Sounds like I should just carry on.????

Hahaha!  That's the same conclusion I just came to after doing a bit of online research.  My dad also used a safety razor but I remember that little styptic pencil he had to use afterwards for the cuts LOL

 

My online research convinced me that safety razor design, and blade design has come a long way since then.  Read what I just recently posted about Feather and Merkur.  I just placed my order and am done forever with cartridge razors (I hope) ????

 

[Skallywag]

2 hours ago, WaveHunter said:

If you know of a trusted online store, please let me know.

Amazon, if you really have to have them.....yet having something mailed 8000 miles is just wrong in my opinion.  Plenty of barbers in Pattaya will shave you, plenty of electric razors available so you don't have to use imported blades to keep your face smooth for the ladies. 

Even better - grow a beard!  saves a lot of time and energy  5555

[WaveHunter]

10 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Tops, Lotus, Villa, Foodland, Big C all sell these to some degree. Better to just buy there.

 

I guess the price is what attracts one to place an order online and then the product is not up to scratch.

The problem with local brick & mortar stores is they often buy from wholesalers who sell on the Lazada and AliExpress platform, so (albeit unknowingly) some of the B&M stores are also selling counterfeit goods).

[bamnutsak]

Gillette used to have a Flagship store on LazMall.

 

It looks like they've ceded that to Lazada to Lotuss' and Watsons now. Both have Flagship stores and sell genuine product.

 

Buying the larger size, 12, usually results in the lowest unit price, ~ 62 baht per. These go on sale pretty much every mmdd sale, so 11 Nov next.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by bamnutsak

[WaveHunter]

1 minute ago, Skallywag said:

Amazon, if you really have to have them.....yet having something mailed 8000 miles is just wrong in my opinion.  Plenty of barbers in Pattaya will shave you, plenty of electric razors available so you don't have to use imported blades to keep your face smooth for the ladies. 

Even better - grow a beard!  saves a lot of time and energy  5555

In spite of their public relation stance of fighting counterfeiters and scammers, Amazon has some of the worst counterfeiters and scammers selling on their sites.  With 6.3 million total sellers and an incredible 1.5 million active sellers on their sites worldwide, it's impossible for them to police.

[userabcd]

6 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

The problem with local brick & mortar stores is they often buy from wholesalers who sell on the Lazada and AliExpress platform, so (albeit unknowingly) some of the B&M stores are also selling counterfeit goods).

I always bought the Bic twin blade razors and mostly Gilette twin blade cartridges in the B&M store, never had a problem with those.

 

Tried the own brand razors from lotus, big C watson and boots and had to throw them all away, they were useless for a first shave.

 

Same with mr DIY razor blades can't even manage a proper 1st shave with the twin blades and threw them out.

Edited October 20, 2022 by userabcd

[WaveHunter]

2 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

The most you can do on Lazada is sticking to LazMall and not any "1 rating" suppliers etc.

My try would be one of these:

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/gillette-mach3-blades-12-cartridges-refills-gillette-mach3-12-i2860580917-s10435591814.html
https://www.lazada.co.th/products/6-gillette-mach-3-plus-blades-pivoting-head-wlubricant-6s-i2861114446-s10436805218.html

 

I have stopped using pricey blades since long.

I use some three blade "Bic easy click" shaver (reusable grip).

They might not last as long but still cheaper over all.

And newly they are as good as expensive ones.

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/x-2-bic-2-bic-easy-clic-razor-2-refill-blades-free-shipping-i4133579042-s16207035113.html

(I buy at shops not online)

I don't know if you've ever noticed but Lazada's rating system (merchant overall rating as opposed to individual review rating) is a joke.  There is no such thing as a one-start seller.  There is only 4-star sellers (which is anyone with even only one sale), or no-star sellers for those who have not sold anything yet.

 

My big complaint with Lazada is they give you almost no way to rate a seller, especially if you can't read Thai since reviews are only in Thai with no auto-translation, and much of the product descriptions do not translate to English if the product description contains "A+ content" (which most listings now contain).

 

They also have no way to sort a search by number of sales which offers an easy way to see which merchants are popular with buyers.

 

That's one reason I buy more and more on AliExpress...because they do both of these things far better than Lazada, making a purchase decision easy and quick.

Edited October 20, 2022 by WaveHunter

[dpcjsr]

Unfortunately Gillette makes the finest razors in the world. They literally have a team of PHD's working in Boston to accomplish this. 

 

Personally, I hate Gillette and P&G for their ad campaign against men. So I have tried every razor I can get my hands on to avoid supporting the woke feminist at P&G. Unfortunately, no other blade even comes close. 

 

So I have stopped my search and recently bought a pack of razors from Big C. Now I have to hope they are genuine. However, I do not buy any other P&G products.