Why is the UK struggling more than other countries?

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They do like us to have to do their work for them!

Yeah, reading the posts on a thread before commenting is such hard work eh…

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

More Brexit problems for 2023  - The government has shown how hollow its promises were and how they only had one policy - get Brexit done" - they missed out "at any cost" and that they had no idea how to do this ir anything else.

Look at the promises they made about the "North" The North has been disproportionately ignored by the Brexit government despite the lies they promulgated about “levelling up”

 

As we enter recession. It is unlikely that the promises of the Government’s 2019 manifesto will ever be followed  through – no  proper investment and no increased devolution.- The Tories daren’t let go of control as they fear what will happen……

 

For businesses, any hopes of recovery from the pandemic,  growth and the promises of 'levelling up' coming to fruition are dashed.

 

 Instead, we will see the negative effects of Brexit worsened by the war in Ukraine, and a cost-of-living crisis that crippled the finances of many businesses and households up and down the country.

 

Due to the Brexit restraints placed on immigration, the past year has seen the UK’s skills shortage go from bad to worse. With historically low levels of unemployment, many companies are turning to other countries to address these issues. But previous EU workers ae not interested in facing the bureaucracy and hatred of the Brexiteer portion of the public.

No staff availability is an ongoing problem and it isn’t going away this coming year  –

In international trade, the government is failing targets left right and centre; it has missed its target for securing post-Brexit trade agreements, as figures show a 15% fall in the number of UK exporters.

 

In the 2019 election the Brexiteers promised to get agreements covering 80% of UK trade by the end of this year, the figures show it will be just 63%. The Japanese deal was criticised after government figures showed exports in UK goods and services had actually fallen to that country in the past year. (Dept International Trade)

 

Former Environment Secretary George Eustice MP in Cornwall also criticised the Australia deal, saying it was "not actually a very good deal for the UK".

 

UK is limping into the new year and unlikely the rest of Europe, on top of everything, it is hobbled by Brexit.

 

Happy new year , still the season to be merry 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

1 , I don't know about the UK poverty rates , but any increase since 2020 (Brexit) would have been primarily due to Covid and Ukraine 

   2 Food bank usage decreased last year , although the previous increases were caused by the pandemic and lockdown and last years decrease was caused by pandemic restrictions being lifted .

 3 Again , I have no idea about UK exports

4 British people can no longer go and live in the E.U and also E.U citizens cannot now go and live in the U.K and this will benefit British kids with things like housing availability and the jobs market in the UK

5 More housing and jobs available in the U.K 

6 Both sides gave a biased opinion /prediction of how the UK would be effected by Brexit 

 

  Anymore questions ?

So why is there a housing shortage?

 

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8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You seem to have misunderstood my post .

What I meant was that there was a decrease in food bank usage last year and that decrease last year was caused by a rise the pervious year which was due to Covid measures and lock-downs . 

   I also didn't say that food bank usage had only increased since the pandemic , you just imagined that I said that (or misunderstood what I meant)

You claimed that the increase was due to the pandemic even though usage of food banks had been increasing since 2008 every year. The only way that claim of yours makes any sense is if you meant that food bank usage would either have held steady or declined had covid not occurred. So why would the trend have reversed?

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, placeholder said:

You claimed that the increase was due to the pandemic even though usage of food banks had been increasing since 2008 every year. The only way that claim of yours makes any sense is if you meant that food bank usage would either have held steady or declined had covid not occurred. So why would the trend have reversed?

I did post the same graph earlier on in this thread and as I previously explained already , I did mean that the sharp rise in the 2020 /21 food bank usage was down to people  using them during the pandemic AND the decline in usage last year was because people weren't using them as much because of the pandemic had ended 

[Scott]

Inflammatory, racist post and reply reported and removed.  

 

[stevenl]

9 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

A report from an left leaning  American newspaper from 2016 ? Why cant you answer the question yourself and write your own words ?

Because you'd ask for a link next. Just staying ahead of you.

[robblok]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given it's been hardly any time ( politically ) since brexit, and there has also been something called covid, plus inflation, why do the wannabeineuro posters keep claiming it's the end of the world that Britain isn't in the Eurozone anymore? It's like if they keep saying the same thing over and over it will make people believe they are right, and beg to be let back in. LOL.

One wonders how Britain managed before they joined the EEC if it's so bad. Come to that, one wonders how they managed to rule a large part of the world if they are so pathetic now.

 

In time all will be resolved for the benefit of the British people.

I dont claim it the data claims it. Its just the facts and of course its not the end of the world. Hardly its just a stupid self inflicted wound. But it is a big contrast with the rosy predictions and promises made by the biggest liar of the UK BJ.

 

These are numbers and facts not opinions, economists have proven it so its not a case of believing in an opinion these are facts backed up by numbers.

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Because you'd ask for a link next. Just staying ahead of you.

I did actually ask you if you could give your own opinion and not just send a link , which is six years old an from the USA.

   I take it that you cannot explain your own claims 

[stevenl]

27 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did actually ask you if you could give your own opinion and not just send a link , which is six years old an from the USA.

   I take it that you cannot explain your own claims 

As I said, your question doesn't even deserve any effort. Many similar links, 

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So why is there a housing shortage?

 

Too many foriengners renting out property. ????

[Kwasaki]

33 minutes ago, robblok said:

I dont claim it the data claims it. Its just the facts and of course its not the end of the world. Hardly its just a stupid self inflicted wound. But it is a big contrast with the rosy predictions and promises made by the biggest liar of the UK BJ.

 

These are numbers and facts not opinions, economists have proven it so its not a case of believing in an opinion these are facts backed up by numbers.

Many people predict stuff doesn't necessarily make them a liar. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

As I said, your question doesn't even deserve any effort. Many similar links, 

If you accuse people of being racist , you could at least explain why you think that , but I shall just put that down to yet another groundless accusation , as they usually are  

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Many people predict stuff doesn't necessarily make them a liar. 

Your contradicting yourself from an earlier post unless you now claim BJ not having a brain. You responded to my post that had the half a brain quote saying that anyone who had one could see it was not going to be easy. Yet BJ said it was going to be easy and beneficial. So what is it is does BJ only have half a brain or is he a liar. 

 

I go for option two given his proven lies recently.

[Chomper Higgot]

22 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Too many foriengners renting out property. ????

But if somebody is renting out property then that property exists and is therefore not part of any shortage.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did post the same graph earlier on in this thread and as I previously explained already , I did mean that the sharp rise in the 2020 /21 food bank usage was down to people  using them during the pandemic AND the decline in usage last year was because people weren't using them as much because of the pandemic had ended 

So, apparently, it's not the words you use that count, but what you meant. I guess I'm going to have to engage the services of a telepathist to get at the meaning of what you write.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

So, apparently, it's not the words you use that count, but what you meant. I guess I'm going to have to engage the services of a telepathist to get at the meaning of what you write.

No need to go to those extremes , it is just part of normal discussion , if you don't understand what another person says , then you ask and they explain or clarify .

   That is how normal people converse  , you may be suffering from playing too much link tennis , when you just posts links to other people and they post links back . 

[Kwasaki]

39 minutes ago, robblok said:

Your contradicting yourself from an earlier post unless you now claim BJ not having a brain. You responded to my post that had the half a brain quote saying that anyone who had one could see it was not going to be easy. Yet BJ said it was going to be easy and beneficial. So what is it is does BJ only have half a brain or is he a liar. 

 

I go for option two given his proven lies recently.

He was ambushed by the lying EU and a cake. 

[Kwasaki]

35 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But if somebody is renting out property then that property exists and is therefore not part of any shortage.

 

Yes i guess the whole property thing is another question, it was always a struggle to buy in UK for many. 

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

He was ambushed by the lying EU and a cake. 

So the UK negotiators were inferior to those of the EU. (otherwise how could they ambush such a smart guy)

 

Keep on digging ????

[BritManToo]

54 minutes ago, robblok said:

Your contradicting yourself from an earlier post unless you now claim BJ not having a brain. You responded to my post that had the half a brain quote saying that anyone who had one could see it was not going to be easy. Yet BJ said it was going to be easy and beneficial. So what is it is does BJ only have half a brain or is he a liar. 

 

I go for option two given his proven lies recently.

Politicians will do or say anything to get elected.

The only politician to try and do what she promised to do was Liz Truss, and she was gone in a few weeks.

[Mac Mickmanus]

13 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Yes i guess the whole property thing is another question, it was always a struggle to buy in UK for many. 

The U.K Gov seems to be waging way on small private landlords by increasing taxes and other measures  and many UK landlords are  selling their rental properties and now there's a shortage of rental properties available 

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Politicians will do or say anything to get elected.

The only politician to try and do what she promised to do was Liz Truss, and she was gone in a few weeks.

There is a limit to lies, BJ like Trump crossed it. But your main point is really valid. They always make things look better then they are. That is why I am happy that in the Netherlands there is a organization that puts all election programs from parties through a program to see how feasible they are (so they cant lie too much its mandatory). 

 

Then again my country has too many parties far from perfect I need to mention that because my country its politics has it good sides but it also has bad sides. Because of the many parties everyone compromises. (that is good and bad)

[Kwasaki]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The U.K Gov seems to be waging way on small private landlords by increasing taxes and other measures  and many UK landlords are  selling their rental properties and now there's a shortage of rental properties available 

All councils should have money to build council houses that are not for sale.

Renters should only pay rent in relation to what they earn. 

Property should be available at reasonable prices. 

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

All councils should have money to build council houses that are not for sale.

Renters should only pay rent in relation to what they earn. 

Property should be available at reasonable prices. 

That is awfully socialist (part of paying in relation to what they earn) of you. While i totally agree with your last sentence. Just be happy the UK is far better of then the Netherlands we have a far larger problem with property availability. 

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, kwilco said:

More Brexit problems for 2023  - The government has shown how hollow its promises were and how they only had one policy - get Brexit done" - they missed out "at any cost" and that they had no idea how to do this ir anything else.

Look at the promises they made about the "North" The North has been disproportionately ignored by the Brexit government despite the lies they promulgated about “levelling up”

 

As we enter recession. It is unlikely that the promises of the Government’s 2019 manifesto will ever be followed  through – no  proper investment and no increased devolution.- The Tories daren’t let go of control as they fear what will happen……

 

For businesses, any hopes of recovery from the pandemic,  growth and the promises of 'levelling up' coming to fruition are dashed.

 

 Instead, we will see the negative effects of Brexit worsened by the war in Ukraine, and a cost-of-living crisis that crippled the finances of many businesses and households up and down the country.

 

Due to the Brexit restraints placed on immigration, the past year has seen the UK’s skills shortage go from bad to worse. With historically low levels of unemployment, many companies are turning to other countries to address these issues. But previous EU workers ae not interested in facing the bureaucracy and hatred of the Brexiteer portion of the public.

No staff availability is an ongoing problem and it isn’t going away this coming year  –

In international trade, the government is failing targets left right and centre; it has missed its target for securing post-Brexit trade agreements, as figures show a 15% fall in the number of UK exporters.

 

In the 2019 election the Brexiteers promised to get agreements covering 80% of UK trade by the end of this year, the figures show it will be just 63%. The Japanese deal was criticised after government figures showed exports in UK goods and services had actually fallen to that country in the past year. (Dept International Trade)

 

Former Environment Secretary George Eustice MP in Cornwall also criticised the Australia deal, saying it was "not actually a very good deal for the UK".

 

UK is limping into the new year and unlikely the rest of Europe, on top of everything, it is hobbled by Brexit.

 

I assume that you mean unlike the rest of Europe? Really?

 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/eus-gentolini-we-will-have-recession-this-winter-2022-12-05/

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I assume that you mean unlike the rest of Europe? Really?

 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/eus-gentolini-we-will-have-recession-this-winter-2022-12-05/

Spain not doing so well either!

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/spains-november-retail-sales-fall-06-year-2022-12-29/

 

I keep asking which countries are doing better than the UK, but nobody ever gives an actual answer.

Edited December 30, 2022 by BritManToo

[roo860]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Spain not doing so well either!

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/spains-november-retail-sales-fall-06-year-2022-12-29/

 

I keep asking which countries are doing better than the UK, but nobody ever gives an actual answer.

Doesn't fit the Brit haters agenda. 

[RayC]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They do like us to have to do their work for them!

Someone has to given that you seem incapable of doing it yourselves.

[Kwasaki]

39 minutes ago, robblok said:

That is awfully socialist (part of paying in relation to what they earn) of you. While i totally agree with your last sentence. Just be happy the UK is far better of then the Netherlands we have a far larger problem with property availability. 

There shouldn't be lack of affordable accommodation in UK  it's always the dam money thing. 

 

I was fortunate back in my time in UK but it still wasn't easy, for younger people now it just seems impossible unless rich Ma and Pa.