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Dempster: The 46-year-old was jailed at Hamilton Sheriff Court. Picture: Police Scotland

 

William Dempster was found to have more than 60,000 indecent images of children before fleeing the country in 2014.

 

By James Delaney

A man who fled to Thailand after being convicted of possessing thousands of indecent images of children has been jailed following extradition back to Scotland.

 

William Dempster was arrested by police in Pattaya in May, eight years after failing to attend sentencing for being caught with 60,000 pictures by officers at his home in Lanarkshire.

 

He was later discovered to have absconded to Thailand before a joint operation between officers in UK and their local counterparts uncovered him living in the beachside city.

 

The 46-year-old was jailed for 18 months and placed on the sex offenders’ register for ten years at Hamilton Sheriff Court on Monday.

 

Dempster, originally from Tayside, was previously arrested in England on charges of “producing, having in possession and disseminating child pornographic material between 2008 and 2013”. 

 

Full story: https://news.stv.tv/west-central/william-dempster-who-fled-scotland-for-thailand-over-indecent-images-of-children-jailed-following-extradition

 

-- © Copyright  STV News 2022-11-16

[inactiveposter]

Previously arrested in England for producing child porn. And sentenced to only 18 months after failing to appear and being on the run for 8 years? Just guessing here, but he probably continued his activities in Pattaya. Pretty sure he would have received a longer sentence in Thailand.

[smedly]

we know where he will be heading in a couple of years unfortunately

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, inactiveposter said:

Previously arrested in England for producing child porn

Just out of interest, do you think he was filming it or downloading it?

 

[Tarteso]

60.000 ?.

 This is a crazy predator. I Can imagine what he was doing here. He came to Thailand to see Temples.

 

Cut his #*¥*.

[GinBoy2]

Maybe I'm just a crazy American.

 

But you get caught in England for producing, then caught in Scotland for 60k images, absconds for 8 years, and he's ultimately sentenced to only 18 months!

 

Am I the only one that see's a problem with that?

[Aussieroaming]

He is a great candidate for termination. Child abusers deserve nothing good.

[Mac Mickmanus]

I expect that quite a few posters will not be commenting on this thread 

[tubby johnson]

17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I expect that quite a few posters will not be commenting on this thread 

You talkin' to me?

[Golden Triangle]

48 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I expect that quite a few posters will not be commenting on this thread 

Why would you say that ? ?

[Albaby]

1 hour ago, GinBoy2 said:

Maybe I'm just a crazy American.

 

But you get caught in England for producing, then caught in Scotland for 60k images, absconds for 8 years, and he's ultimately sentenced to only 18 months!

 

Am I the only one that see's a problem with that?

Just wonder if the Brits will give him back his passport when he's released. Commonsense would say no, but 18 months <deleted>?

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Why would you say that ? ?

All those guys that have an interest in 18 year olds and prowl the streets looking for Uni girls , 18 being the legal cut off point that they are allowed to mention on forums

[Sparktrader]

Skinny nose, creepy eyes. 

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, GinBoy2 said:

Maybe I'm just a crazy American.

 

But you get caught in England for producing, then caught in Scotland for 60k images, absconds for 8 years, and he's ultimately sentenced to only 18 months!

 

Am I the only one that see's a problem with that?

He would get 8 to 10 in Oz

[Sparktrader]

42 minutes ago, tubby johnson said:

You talkin' to me?

Guilty conscience?

[Golden Triangle]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

All those guys that have an interest in 18 year olds and prowl the streets looking for Uni girls , 18 being the legal cut off point that they are allowed to mention on forums

Thanks for the extra info, now I understand your comment, my nearly 50 ish mrs is more than enough for me ???? lol 

[Sparktrader]

8 hours ago, inactiveposter said:

Previously arrested in England for producing child porn. And sentenced to only 18 months after failing to appear and being on the run for 8 years? Just guessing here, but he probably continued his activities in Pattaya. Pretty sure he would have received a longer sentence in Thailand.

Why wasnt he fined for $200,000? Plus 10 years Jail.

[edwardandtubs]

29 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

He would get 8 to 10 in Oz

I doubt it. "Producing" has a particular legal definition that doesn't include what some posters seem to think it does.

[Mac Mickmanus]

18 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

I doubt it. "Producing" has a particular legal definition that doesn't include what some posters seem to think it does.

He was probably just downloading it and having no process or involvement  in its making 

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, Albaby said:

Just wonder if the Brits will give him back his passport when he's released. Commonsense would say no, but 18 months <deleted>?

Absolutely will. But he will be catergorised as either; High, Medium or Low Risk. He has to report time spent away from his home address for the duration of his registration period. At the discretion of his offender manager he may be prohibited from flying to certain Countries (certainly The Philippines). If it is suspected that he may fly onwards from his original reported destination, an Interpol Green Notice could be issued. 

[hotchilli]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

The 46-year-old was jailed for 18 months and placed on the sex offenders’ register for ten years at Hamilton Sheriff Court on Monday.

Sweety sock banged up at last..

[GinBoy2]

I knew anecdotally in the US the sentence was much higher, but I actually looked up the statistics;

 

Punishment • The average sentence of child pornography offenders was 101 months; 99.0% were sentenced to prison. • The average sentence for offenders convicted of trafficking in child pornography was 133 months:3  89.0% of these offenders were convicted of an offense carrying a five-year mandatory minimum penalty; their average sentence was 120 months.  11.0% had a prior sexual abuse or child pornography conviction and were subject to a 15-year mandatory minimum penalty; their average sentence was 233 months. • The average sentence for offenders convicted of receiving child pornography was 96 months:  90.5% of offenders sentenced for receiving child pornography were convicted of an offense carrying a five-year mandatory minimum penalty; their average sentence was 87 months.  9.5% had a prior sexual abuse or child pornography conviction and were subject to a 15-year mandatory minimum penalty; their average sentence was 185 months

 

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Child_Pornography_FY19.pdf

 

Far cry from 18 months, and rightly so in my opinion!

[Albaby]

22 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

He would get 8 to 10 in Oz

These people are incurable. You'd be aware of the killer and rapist of Samantha Knight, a 9 yo. Released on parole. Now revoked. Never revealed what he did with the body. Jesus wept.

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, Albaby said:

These people are incurable. You'd be aware of the killer and rapist of Samantha Knight, a 9 yo. Released on parole. Now revoked. Never revealed what he did with the body. Jesus wept.

 

The guy in question didn't rape or murder anyone 

[GinBoy2]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The guy in question didn't rape or murder anyone 

But any consumer of this stuff is providing the business model for the producers of this awful trade.

 

These guys are not some innocent bystanders, they provide the market for people to exploit children.

 

If you think thats OK, well I hope you can look yourself in the mirror

 

They may not have raped or killed anyone, but they are the market that makes the exploitation of children profitable and are as despicable of the producers

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

But any consumer of this stuff is providing the business model for the producers of this awful trade.

 

These guys are not some innocent bystanders, they provide the market for people to exploit children.

 

If you think thats OK, well I hope you can look yourself in the mirror

 

They may not have raped or killed anyone, but they are the market that makes the exploitation of children profitable and are as despicable of the producers

A lot of it is available for free on the internet , so they aren't paying for its production or making any contribution to it at all .

   

[GinBoy2]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

A lot of it is available for free on the internet , so they aren't paying for its production or making any contribution to it at all .

   

We may have to disagree on the culpability of anyone watching child porn

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

A lot of it is available for free on the internet , so they aren't paying for its production or making any contribution to it at all .

   

How do you know?

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

How do you know?

There was a Court case recently where one of the girls tracked down some of the people who downloaded it for free on file sharing sites and she tried to sue them for damages , as they didn't pay for it and so stole it . 

   I don't think she successfully sued them 

[JeffersLos]

On 11/16/2022 at 9:09 AM, inactiveposter said:

Pretty sure he would have received a longer sentence in Thailand.

1,257 years, reduced to 3 weeks.