coolcarer Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Said on day. You said a day later. So you lied. Are you on Twitter? Should be banned too. Are you on twitter. Trumps live twitter feed has that tweet time stamped on the 7th. So if one quotes that it’s a lie? 1 1
FarAngMoh Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Musk is South African isnt he? Not sure he qualifies. That’s right, and his mom was Canadian, not American… so he’s out of luck.
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Your words are more hateful than anybody else. Hateful? For calling the crowd not-too-bright? Who were the intellectuals in that mob? Was it the buffalo horn guy? 2
ozimoron Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: Stop embarrassing yourself. You made a false claim. Man up and apologise. How about you apologize. It's been pointed out to you that the Twitter timeline is dated Jan 7. 1
ozimoron Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Sparktrader said: Ive never seen such hate in 20 years. That what happens when a racist gets elected by a racist party.
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, FarAngMoh said: I haven’t examined all of the evidence, but on the surface it does appear that Trump might have at least indirectly been involved in provoking the riot. If true, it was 100% wrong of him to do so, even if the election was stolen - and I’m not totally convinced it wasn’t. I saw clear irregularities that have never been explained in the voting data from cities like Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee. If true, that would be 100% wrong as well. That said, why must it be like choosing the least worst candidate? Many liberals really didn’t want Biden, but they’d take him over Trump. Many conservatives didn’t really want Trump, but they’d take him over Biden. Both candidates actually lean moderate, and neither uphold their party’s ideals in many ways (although Biden now seems to just be in “where do I sign” mode, and agrees to anything his party wants). There plenty not to like on both sides — I don’t see how people can have so much zeal for either side. "I saw clear irregularities that have never been explained in the voting data from cities like Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee." Please identify these clear irregularities. In a two-party, winner takes all system voting for the lesser of two evils is common. That's why I want to see Rank Choice Voting. 1
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: Not for him. Police job to control protests. The potus doesnt control protests. Non-Americans should be careful where and what they post. Trump took an oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." The US Capitol and US Congress was under attack. He could have ended the attack and made it clear physically attacking the US government was wrong and criminal with a single tweet. Instead he watched television. That must be the biggest, clearest case of dereliction of duty in US history. 1
ozimoron Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 During a rant on his War Room podcast, Bannon suggested that Republicans have the power to "adjudicate" the election. He called the Biden administration an "illegitimate regime." "And I don't care if the new special prosecutor or anybody — it's an illegitimate regime," he opined. "And we're going to get a chance to adjudicate that in the new Congress when we get the real [Jan. 6] Committee going." Bannon noted that Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) has promised Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) that she can lead investigations if he becomes Speaker of the House. https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-adjudicate-2020/ 2
Mac Mickmanus Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 37 minutes ago, heybruce said: BTW: I stand by my post that spending large amounts of time studying the words of Jesus and Donald Trump is said. It's kind of like claiming you are a student of Aristotle and Daffy Duck. I think that you misunderstood my post . I can recite more of Donald Trumps words than I can recite Jesus's words . I have spent a lot of time in the last six years studying and dissecting what Donald has said and what he meant (on internet forums) , my point was that Trump has taken the place of Jesus , these days
coolcarer Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I think that you misunderstood my post . I can recite more of Donald Trumps words than I can recite Jesus's words . I have spent a lot of time in the last six years studying and dissecting what Donald has said and what he meant (on internet forums) , my point was that Trump has taken the place of Jesus , these days Correct his followers at rallies often carry large crucifixes
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, heybruce said: Non-Americans should be careful where and what they post. Trump took an oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." The US Capitol and US Congress was under attack. He could have ended the attack and made it clear physically attacking the US government was wrong and criminal with a single tweet. Instead he watched television. That must be the biggest, clearest case of dereliction of duty in US history. Police job. 1
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, ozimoron said: That what happens when a racist gets elected by a racist party. No, its what happens when hate filled people act irrationally. It's not regular people who hate so much. Hating people doesnt affect them, it affects you. You are self harming. 1
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, heybruce said: During the attack itself he didn't say or do anything of note, which is a criminal dereliction of duty for a sitting President. False claim already proven wrong. 1 1
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, ozimoron said: During a rant on his War Room podcast, Bannon suggested that Republicans have the power to "adjudicate" the election. He called the Biden administration an "illegitimate regime." "And I don't care if the new special prosecutor or anybody — it's an illegitimate regime," he opined. "And we're going to get a chance to adjudicate that in the new Congress when we get the real [Jan. 6] Committee going." Bannon noted that Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) has promised Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) that she can lead investigations if he becomes Speaker of the House. https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-adjudicate-2020/ That's what happens when you let the lunatics run the asylum.
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, heybruce said: That's what happens when you let the lunatics run the asylum. So much hate. Explains why you got the facts wrong after 22 months of research. 1
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I think that you misunderstood my post . I can recite more of Donald Trumps words than I can recite Jesus's words . I have spent a lot of time in the last six years studying and dissecting what Donald has said and what he meant (on internet forums) , my point was that Trump has taken the place of Jesus , these days That's clear evidence of a cult.
FarAngMoh Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: No, its what happens when hate filled people act irrationally. It's not regular people who hate so much. Hating people doesnt affect them, it affects you. You are self harming. Mark Twain had a similar quote.
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: False claim already proven wrong. No. It has been shown that he didn't do anything for hours after the attack began, other than watch television. Prove me wrong. 1
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, heybruce said: No. It has been shown that he didn't do anything for hours after the attack began, other than watch television. Prove me wrong. So you change your words now. Before it was not do anything, now it took hours. You keep changing your story. 1
FarAngMoh Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, FarAngMoh said: Mark Twain had a similar quote. Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Police job. You shouldn't post silly comments that demonstrate your ignorance of the subject.
Mac Mickmanus Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, heybruce said: That's clear evidence of a cult. I am a one person "cult" ? Doesn't it have to be a group of people before it can be classified as being a cult ? 1
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, FarAngMoh said: Mark Twain had a similar quote. Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured. Mark Twain 1 1
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, heybruce said: You shouldn't post silly comments that demonstrate your ignorance of the subject. Police job. Learn how the law works instead of posting hate. 1 1
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: So much hate. Explains why you got the facts wrong after 22 months of research. The only "fact" of mine you have identified as wrong is your uninformed, un-American disagreement with me regarding the importance of the attack on the Capitol.
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-role-of-u-s-law-enforcement-in-response-to-protests/ Police job 1
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I am a one person "cult" ? Doesn't it have to be a group of people before it can be classified as being a cult ? Do you think you are the only person for whom Trump has replaced Jesus?
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, heybruce said: The only "fact" of mine you have identified as wrong is your uninformed, un-American disagreement with me regarding the importance of the attack on the Capitol. No you falsely claimed several things. You compared Trump with Hitler. You claimed Trump did nothing during protests. You claimed it isnt police job to control protests. After 2 mins on google I proved you wrong. You spent 22 months hating Trump based on incorrect information. 1 1
Sparktrader Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, heybruce said: Do you think you are the only person for whom Trump has replaced Jesus? Nobody thinks that. More irrational comments. 1 1
heybruce Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Police job. Learn how the law works instead of posting hate. 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-role-of-u-s-law-enforcement-in-response-to-protests/ Police job The Capitol police were overwhelmed. The DC police didn't have jurisdiction. Paralysis in Trump's government was keeping the National Guard from being called up. And, as has been noted, Trump could have done a lot to defuse and end the situation with a single tweet. He took an oath to defend and protect; he did nothing but watch television until he was confident the insurrection would fail. At a minimum that is gross dereliction of duty, if not complicity in the insurrection. You are not a US citizen. You have never taken an oath to defend the US Constitution. You clearly don't know what you are posting about. Stop annoying people with your ignorant posts. 1 1
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