Data from Hunter Biden's laptop is real and was not planted by Russians looking to frame the Biden family: CBS News

[Scott]

 

As Republicans take control of the House, they're gearing up to make good on their promises to investigate Hunter Biden. Now, CBS News has looked at the data of Hunter's infamous laptop that came directly from the source who said they provided it to the FBI under subpoena, and determined that it had not been doctored in any way, as some past reports have suggested.

 

CBS News commissioned an independent forensic review of the laptop to determine its authenticity, which found that the data obtained is indeed from Hunter Biden's laptop and is real.

In the past, questions were raised as to whether the files from the laptop were doctored or if additional files were added by operatives looking to frame the Biden family.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/hunter-biden-laptop-2658728508/

 

 

[ozimoron]

The interesting question is whether Biden really did take kick backs and if he did, were they even illegal? Other president(s) have taken massive kick backs for pay for play and not been charged.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, Scott said:

CBS News commissioned an independent forensic review of the laptop to determine its authenticity, which found that the data obtained is indeed from Hunter Biden's laptop and is real

Well, if Giuliani had initially provided the files to all media, instead of only to the infamous NYPost, they could have been checked earlier.

[SunnyinBangrak]

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The interesting question is whether Biden really did take kick backs and if he did, were they even illegal? Other president(s) have taken massive kick backs for pay for play and not been charged.

if he took kickbacks and did not pay tax on them then yes.

 

The censorship of this laptop, even though it had been corroborated by TB, and the Bidens did not deny it was real is the biggest scandal of our lifetimes. And it completely changed the political landscape - which I guess is why they are not sorry for doing it 

 

"79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election"

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

 

REAL election interference. I think will get answers now we have the house back. It is finally time for some honesty surrounding the Bidens.

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

12 minutes ago, candide said:

Well, if Giuliani had initially provided the files to all media, instead of only to the infamous NYPost, they could have been checked earlier.

McIsaac gave the laptop to the FBI who did absolutely nothing with it. *wonder why!) It was then he became frustrated and gave a copy to RG. The dishonest tactics the media and DOJ used trying to cover this up still leaves me disgusted. Metadata, hacked materials, Russian disinformation, nothing about Joe in there. Disgraceful.

Edited November 21, 2022 by SunnyinBangrak

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

if he took kickbacks and did not pay tax on them then yes.

 

The censorship of this laptop, even though it had been corroborated by TB, and the Bidens did not deny it was real is the biggest scandal of our lifetimes. And it completely changed the political landscape - which I guess is why they are not sorry for doing it 

 

"79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election"

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

 

REAL election interference. I think will get answers now we have the house back. It is finally time for some honesty surrounding the Bidens.

Many GOP reps are afraid of overreach. They are going to make the same mistake as 2020 and 2022.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

McIsaac gave the laptop to the FBI who did absolutely nothing with it. *wonder why!) It was then he became frustrated and gave a copy to RG. The dishonest tactics the media used trying to cover this up still leaves me disgusted. Metadata, hacked materials, Russian disinformation, nothing about Joe in there. Disgraceful.

You don't know that. Certainly, if Biden didn't pay tax on any kickbacks (if he got any) then yes he should be indicted by the IRS.

[candide]

7 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

if he took kickbacks and did not pay tax on them then yes.

 

The censorship of this laptop, even though it had been corroborated by TB, and the Bidens did not deny it was real is the biggest scandal of our lifetimes. And it completely changed the political landscape - which I guess is why they are not sorry for doing it 

 

"79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election"

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

 

REAL election interference. I think will get answers now we have the house back. It is finally time for some honesty surrounding the Bidens.

 

 

Of course, no link to the poll's details.....

However, one obvious clue of bias: "Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal,,,"

Edited November 21, 2022 by candide

[candide]

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

McIsaac gave the laptop to the FBI who did absolutely nothing with it. *wonder why!) It was then he became frustrated and gave a copy to RG. The dishonest tactics the media and DOJ used trying to cover this up still leaves me disgusted. Metadata, hacked materials, Russian disinformation, nothing about Joe in there. Disgraceful.

The media didn't get a copy and it stinker disinformation. 

÷ still there isn't much about Joe. Just that it was suggested he may become shareholder of a JV, which he didn't anyway.

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 minute ago, candide said:

The media didn't get a copy and it stinker disinformation. 

÷ still there isn't much about Joe. Just that it was suggested he may become shareholder of a JV, which he didn't anyway.

Can you accept that as a longstanding laptop denier, that you might not be sufficiently informed about the contents of this laptop? The wealth and amount of evidence on the laptop is mind blowing. Can you image knowing all emails the guy sent for years, all messages from his phone. You focus on one tiny issue, the JV. 

[kwonitoy]

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can you accept that as a longstanding laptop denier, that you might not be sufficiently informed about the contents of this laptop? The wealth and amount of evidence on the laptop is mind blowing. Can you image knowing all emails the guy sent for years, all messages from his phone. You focus on one tiny issue, the JV. 

So, you seem to know what is on the laptop in question.

What is it? 

Solid hard evidence will do

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can you accept that as a longstanding laptop denier, that you might not be sufficiently informed about the contents of this laptop? The wealth and amount of evidence on the laptop is mind blowing. Can you image knowing all emails the guy sent for years, all messages from his phone. You focus on one tiny issue, the JV. 

It doesn’t matter what is on the lap top, there is no secure chain of custody.

 

All if it is inadmissible in a court of law.

 

Just as NY Post polls are inadmissible in courts of law.

[Hanaguma]

It is no coincidence that this story was killed for two complete election cycles.  There is no clearer picture of election interference on the part of the media on behalf of the Democrats, with the collusion of Big Tech.  The story was spiked, the New York Post was muzzled, the ranks of the careerist politicians closed, everyone proclaimed it to be 'Russian Disinformation'....

 

How many media hacks and factotums have lost their jobs because of this? How many of the commentators from the State Machine (the odious James Clapper type) have lost their cushy gigs as 'experts' in security?   None.

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t matter what is on the lap top, there is no secure chain of custody.

 

All if it is inadmissible in a court of law.

 

Just as NY Post polls are inadmissible in courts of law.

Interesting to see the story change. First, it was "this is Russian Disinformation and totally fabricated" to now, "Well, even IF it is true, it is not criminal".....

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

We have known Biden did personally profit from the shady deals for a very long time.

 

"Emails from Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop, obtained by DailyMail.com, reveal Joe and Hunter shared bank accounts and paid each other's bills "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10070093/Joe-Biden-Hunters-shared-bank-accounts-make-president-target-FBI-probe.html

 

So why was the false narrative that "nobody suggests Joe Biden personally knew or benefitted from the deals" allowed to flourish while truthful accounts were censored or banned from social media. Why would legacy media expect to still be thought of as credible after this? 

And yet you are relying on the media for this report and make reference to the NY Post, one of the oldest media in the US.

 

Me thinks you doth pick ‘n choose too much.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

It is no coincidence that this story was killed for two complete election cycles.  There is no clearer picture of election interference on the part of the media on behalf of the Democrats, with the collusion of Big Tech.  The story was spiked, the New York Post was muzzled, the ranks of the careerist politicians closed, everyone proclaimed it to be 'Russian Disinformation'....

 

How many media hacks and factotums have lost their jobs because of this? How many of the commentators from the State Machine (the odious James Clapper type) have lost their cushy gigs as 'experts' in security?   None.

The story wasn’t ‘killed’, unless you are claiming the likes of FOX were somehow influenced?

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, Scott said:

CBS News commissioned an independent forensic review of the laptop to determine its authenticity, which found that the data obtained is indeed from Hunter Biden's laptop and is real.

And just how did CBS obtain said information and the laptop for a review if it has been in the FBI's evidence.  The more people that play with the laptop and its drives can only cause problems in drilling down into the hard drives to uncover what may or may not have been overwritten....

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can you accept that as a longstanding laptop denier, that you might not be sufficiently informed about the contents of this laptop? The wealth and amount of evidence on the laptop is mind blowing. Can you image knowing all emails the guy sent for years, all messages from his phone. You focus on one tiny issue, the JV. 

Anything on the laptop and the laptop itself is completely inadmissible in any court of law as the chain of custody can not be proven and too many people have had a look at either the laptop, a cloned drive with all of said supposed files, or copies of the files themself.  Accessing the laptop by whomever and whenever is what will keep this from being used except for the information already pilfered from the laptop and disseminated illegally and out of context by whomever.......

[SunnyinBangrak]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t matter what is on the lap top, there is no secure chain of custody.

 

All if it is inadmissible in a court of law.

 

Just as NY Post polls are inadmissible in courts of law.

stop with the disinformation please. Chain of custody is JPMcIsaac to the FBI directly. 

 

"According to Isaac’s account, the FBI first made a forensic copy of the laptop, then returned weeks later with a subpoena and confiscated it. When he stopped hearing from the FBI, Isaac said he contacted several members of Congress, who did not respond. At that point, his intermediary reached out to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney, Robert Costello."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac

 

 

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[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Interesting to see the story change. First, it was "this is Russian Disinformation and totally fabricated" to now, "Well, even IF it is true, it is not criminal".....

I’m interested to know where you saw that change?

 

You chosen to use quotes, so now time for you to back up your alleged quotes.

 

When did I say “this is Russian Disinformation and totally fabricated”?

 

When did I say “even IF it is true, it is not criminal”?

 

Put up your evidence or do the right thing and retract your fabricated quotes.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

stop with the disinformation please. Chain of custody is JPMcIsaac to the FBI directly. 

 

"According to Isaac’s account, the FBI first made a forensic copy of the laptop, then returned weeks later with a subpoena and confiscated it. When he stopped hearing from the FBI, Isaac said he contacted several members of Congress, who did not respond. At that point, his intermediary reached out to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney, Robert Costello."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac

 

 

And in the months this laptop was allegedly abandoned?

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m interested to know where you saw that change?

 

You chosen to use quotes, so now time for you to back up your alleged quotes.

 

When did I say “this is Russian Disinformation and totally fabricated”?

 

When did I say “even IF it is true, it is not criminal”?

 

Put up your evidence or do the right thing and retract your fabricated quotes.

Not you in particular, but Laptop Deniers in general.  This isn't personal.  I just find the shift from 'this is Russian disinformation' to 'this is accurate but inadmissible" to be fascinating.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Not you in particular, but Laptop Deniers in general.  This isn't personal.  I just find the shift from 'this is Russian disinformation' to 'this is accurate but inadmissible" to be fascinating.

Oh right, so some other fabled people,  but not me.

 

How very convenient to have these ready made quotes to hand.

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[SunnyinBangrak]

26 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Anything on the laptop and the laptop itself is completely inadmissible in any court of law as the chain of custody can not be proven and too many people have had a look at either the laptop, a cloned drive with all of said supposed files, or copies of the files themself.  Accessing the laptop by whomever and whenever is what will keep this from being used except for the information already pilfered from the laptop and disseminated illegally and out of context by whomever.......

It seems some of us have trouble understanding how emails and messages work. 

[JonnyF]

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Not you in particular, but Laptop Deniers in general.  This isn't personal.  I just find the shift from 'this is Russian disinformation' to 'this is accurate but inadmissible" to be fascinating.

This is just the start. Expect the excuses and justifications to change multiple times as more and more of this sordid tale becomes public. What a family...

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

It seems some of us have trouble understanding how emails and messages work. 

Not in the least....are e-mails secure? Not in my line of work e-mails were never secure unless sent encrypted via a secured server and then the receiver having to enter credentials to access said information.  Are you saying CBS obtained the information via a secure e-mail, or anyone else who received such (the FBI and others in Congress) received the files securely?  You are a laugh a minute.

[stoner]

this whole thing is so laughable. keep fighting amongst each other while the rich get richer. 

 

now we have 

 

anti maskers

anti vaxxers 

climate change deniers

and laptop deniers

 

keep running on that wheel folks. 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"Obviously, emails are hearsay evidence that are admissible at trial.  Donati v. State is a criminal case that teaches us a lesson in how to get an email into evidence at trial.

Emails are admissible in court. "

https://www.marylandinjurylawyerblog.com/get-email-evidence-trial-donati-v-state.html

 

Luckily we have witness Tony Bobulinski who was involved in the Biden's dodgy schemes and has email records that tally with Hunter's, and is prepared to testify to confirm this. 

 

"Tony Bobulinski, who was listed as the recipient of an email published by the New York Post that appeared to detail a business arrangement involving a Chinese company and members of the Biden family, has confirmed that the email is "genuine" and provided more information regarding the Bidens' role in the deal.

"I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future," he said."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-business-partner-email-genuine-joe-biden-advice

 

Personal abuse and comments are unnecessary, please try and be civil.

You do make me laugh with your posts. The case you referred to lays out why the e-mails were allowed as evidence, and show a pattern, as they were sent to the Police by the suspect.....Bidens laptop files were spread all over the place and never were from Bidens laptop to the FBI by Biden, the information obtained was via a Third party who was in possession of the laptop, instead of handing over the laptop without making copies and sending out to others, the chain of evidence has been compromised.  From a Law enforcement perspective I can tell you how far off base you really are.  Now can they by used by a special council to obtain information, of course they can, but as far as being evidence to charge someone and indict them and then prosecute someone thats a huge reach, which even all of the other special council investigations throughout the years were unable to do without other iron clad evidence.  Try Again.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

this whole thing is so laughable. keep fighting amongst each other while the rich get richer. 

 

now we have 

 

anti maskers

anti vaxxers 

climate change deniers

and laptop deniers

 

keep running on that wheel folks. 

Indeed. the rich are using the outrage machine to gin up the useful idiots.