Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: In America the electoral system is used to determine the winner. But that wasn't what you said. You cited the vox populi as his legitimacy, not a faulty electoral system. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Trump won because folks wanted a non politician type to lead them. The people spoke. And the next time they spoke, they had recognized the error of their ways. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Trump's anti-American rhetoric is having the desired effect. The peasants are revolting. With Power Grid Under Attack, U.S. Struggles to Pursue Far-Right Extremists An attack that plunged tens of thousands of people in North Carolina into darkness has raised new concerns over a mounting threat posed by radical homegrown extremists declaring open war on the United States power grid. But experts and former officials note that, despite a stated priority in combatting this threat, obstacles exist for law enforcement agencies in pursuing such measures against individuals and groups on U.S. soil. https://www.newsweek.com/power-grid-under-attack-us-struggles-pursue-far-right-extremists-1764803 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, heybruce said: So you've gone from the radical suggestion that the US should do without its constitution, to implying that I should know what countries have successful democracies without constitutions, to acknowledging you don't know the basics of what you are posting about. That's worth remembering when reading your future posts. Ergo why ignore was created... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Trump's anti-American rhetoric is having the desired effect. The peasants are revolting. With Power Grid Under Attack, U.S. Struggles to Pursue Far-Right Extremists An attack that plunged tens of thousands of people in North Carolina into darkness has raised new concerns over a mounting threat posed by radical homegrown extremists declaring open war on the United States power grid. But experts and former officials note that, despite a stated priority in combatting this threat, obstacles exist for law enforcement agencies in pursuing such measures against individuals and groups on U.S. soil. https://www.newsweek.com/power-grid-under-attack-us-struggles-pursue-far-right-extremists-1764803 Sounds like a scene from a Die Hard movie.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Trump won because folks wanted a non politician type to lead them. The people spoke. Trump won indeed but not because the people spoke as you claim but because the Electoral College spoke. If it had been the people then Clinton had 2,864,974 votes more than Trump, the largest popular vote margin of any losing presidential candidate in U.S. history, according to the AP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Trump won indeed but not because the people spoke as you claim but because the Electoral College spoke. If it had been the people then Clinton had 2,864,974 votes more than Trump, the largest popular vote margin of any losing presidential candidate in U.S. history, according to the AP. Give it a rest already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said: Give it a rest already. Give what a rest, correcting your false claims, nah, I prefer facts Electoral College In other U.S. elections, candidates are elected directly by popular vote. But the president and vice president are not elected directly by citizens. Instead, they are chosen by “electors” through a process called the Electoral College. https://www.usa.gov/election Edited December 6, 2022 by Bkk Brian 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Give what a rest, correcting your false claims, nah, I prefer facts Are you claiming Trump didn't win the 2016 election? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Are you claiming Trump didn't win the 2016 election? You obviously can't read either........... 16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Trump won indeed but not because the people spoke as you claim but because the Electoral College spoke. If it had been the people then Clinton had 2,864,974 votes more than Trump, the largest popular vote margin of any losing presidential candidate in U.S. history, according to the AP. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 18 hours ago, placeholder said: It's the way crypto Trump supporters attempt to fool us into believing their neutrality. Its the world against you inside your head is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: You obviously can't read either........... If the people didn't speak how did Trump win more electoral votes? Nothing worse than sore losers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: If the people didn't speak how did Trump win more electoral votes? Nothing worse than sore losers. And is there a sorer loser than Trump? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said: If the people didn't speak how did Trump win more electoral votes? Nothing worse than sore losers. You being from the US I would have presumed you'd know: Electoral College In other U.S. elections, candidates are elected directly by popular vote. But the president and vice president are not elected directly by citizens. Instead, they are chosen by “electors” through a process called the Electoral College. https://www.usa.gov/election Hillary Clinton Officially Wins Popular Vote by Nearly 2.9 Million https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-officially-wins-popular-vote-29-million/story?id=44354341 Who's a sore loser? Or is pulling you up on misleading claims your definition of being sore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: If the people didn't speak how did Trump win more electoral votes? Nothing worse than sore losers. Well there is something worse. A sore loser who in incites sedition and stochastic terrorism. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 18 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Then I saw the videos of liberals absolutely melting down, unbelievable how they carried on. That's when I became a fan. Well of course! "Shady" guy elected - don't care about policy or how it will affect the country - but it seems to irritate people I do not like. Why not go all in!! ???? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, heybruce said: And is there a sorer loser than Trump? Probably not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Other Countries manage just fine without a constitution Curious as to which countries they would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, heybruce said: What countries are managing fine without a constitution? Yeah, I know, the UK, but where else? UK does have a proto constitution though... From wiki Magna Carta still forms an important symbol of liberty today, often cited by politicians and campaigners, and is held in great respect by the British and American legal communities, Lord Denning describing it as "the greatest constitutional document of all times—the foundation of the freedom of the individual against the arbitrary authority of the despot Edited December 6, 2022 by mikebike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 46 minutes ago, MRToMRT said: Its the world against you inside your head is it not? Conflating yourself with the world now? Grandiose much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Trump won because folks wanted a non politician type to lead them. The people spoke. 45 squeaked by in 2016 because Hillary was a flawed candidate who's campaign made some giant mistakes. The people kinda whispered.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: Sounds like a scene from a Die Hard movie.... Makes ya wonder where they get these ideas from, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 9:22 PM, Skallywag said: Have been saying since Jan. 6 that POTUS 45 will eventually be indicted and expatriate himself to a non-extradition country to avoid jail. OF course even from Russia or China or any of the middle east countries, he can still spout off on socials to satisfy his followers/ devotees I've been anticipating this since his inauguration. I envisioned an area of dachas where he and his goons would live in exile among the oligarchs. I thought Russia at first, but not now. CPAC held a jamboree in Hungary in the past year, maybe somebody is doing advanced planning. Orban is practically idolized on Fox. Just think: Budapest, home of the US Republican Party in exile. And not just the social prattle, they can still run their various on-line businesses (selling pillows, asking for donations, and so on). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, bendejo said: I've been anticipating this since his inauguration. I envisioned an area of dachas where he and his goons would live in exile among the oligarchs. I thought Russia at first, but not now. CPAC held a jamboree in Hungary in the past year, maybe somebody is doing advanced planning. Orban is practically idolized on Fox. Just think: Budapest, home of the US Republican Party in exile. And not just the social prattle, they can still run their various on-line businesses (selling pillows, asking for donations, and so on). He can join Thaksin in Dubai and still rant away.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Trump won because folks wanted a non politician type to lead them. The people spoke. He won because of white resentment in 16. Then he lost in 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Trump won in 2016 because the FBI put its thumb on the scale. After the voters realized what had happened they reversed their vote in 2020. At least those who were duped by Comey. Edited December 6, 2022 by ozimoron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Give it a rest already. Obviously it's you and your fellow-travelers who claimed Trump won some kind of popular endorsement who should give it a rest. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 The Trump strikes again...gotta love his own stupidity. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/trump-terminate-constitution-00072230 Former President Donald Trump on Monday denied he wanted to “‘terminate’ the Constitution,” two days after suggesting “the termination of all rules ... even those found in the Constitution.” “The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES,” Trump said on Monday on his own social media platform, Truth Social. The post seemed to be a complete denial of his post from Saturday, which remained online as of Monday afternoon: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote over the weekend, once again falsely asserting that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 40 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: The Trump strikes again...gotta love his own stupidity. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/trump-terminate-constitution-00072230 Former President Donald Trump on Monday denied he wanted to “‘terminate’ the Constitution,” two days after suggesting “the termination of all rules ... even those found in the Constitution.” “The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES,” Trump said on Monday on his own social media platform, Truth Social. The post seemed to be a complete denial of his post from Saturday, which remained online as of Monday afternoon: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote over the weekend, once again falsely asserting that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election. Trump floated a trial balloon to see what his base thought about suspending the Constitution based on his lies about election fraud. It didn't go over as well as he hoped, so he's back-tracking. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 23 hours ago, Hanaguma said: As I have said before: liked him as President, can't stand him as an ex-President. I'm frankly happy when he does things like this because it will hopefully erode his base of support more quickly and let the GOP get on with choosing their 2024 candidate. Just out of curiousity, what did you like about him as President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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