moe666 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Felt 35 said: Unfortunately, I can imagine that this mean a general tightning and they who most often end up getting stung then is those who have never had the intention of anything else than living out their lives here on a retirement visas.???? Felt A few of those have been dodgy over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, easydoor said: I am everytime surprised when I read the reactions on this kind of topics. Looks to me a lot of people wants a lawless coutry, I have little doubt that is what draws some expats to Thailand. They don't have to try very hard to keep up the standards of their home country. A Korean tv producer I worked with here summed up Thailand perfectly in just six words - The standards here are so low. That suits some, whereas those who aspire to something better go to Singapore or perhaps Malaysia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatewash Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: Last time mine took 10 minutes, making sure all was in order before sending everything off to the regional office in Khon Kaen. When I was there recently about wanting a 60-day extension (complicated, which I wrote of in another thread) he suggested I get a retirement extension. I said I wasn't retired and he said I didn't need to be retired to get a retirement extension. Funny, and very Thai I suppose ???? The retirement extension doesn't require that you be retired (i.e., not working), it merely requires that you be at least age 50 and meet the financial requirements. You cannot work in Thailand under a retirement extension, but you can certainly work outside of Thailand. In practice, some people work from home in Thailand and while perhaps technically not allowed if done without any fanfare is likely to go undetected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post d4dang Posted December 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2022 Ironic isn't it...Russians fleeing a dictator finding refuge in a country run by a dictator 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey and the Bandit Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, jacko45k said: What? Bad choice of words? Rephrase.... If i was a Russian actually in Russia I would be moving to Phuket too!???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted December 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2022 Revise all you want, as long as you have crooked immigration personal that are on the take it will not help much.. the problem is within the department, not out there... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 13 hours ago, KhaoNiaw said: Apparently 6-7000 'volunteers' came through a Chinese foundation. So they're setting up an investigation into the misuse of volunteer visas up to last year or earlier this year I think they said on the news. Which sounds like up to the period people on here started reporting it was no longer a possibility. Possibly being proactive https://www.facebook.com/CBCPolitics/videos/3351367871815945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted December 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2022 12 hours ago, ikke1959 said: a result of the visas who are offered for the wealthy quality tourists....The whole visa system should be revisted.. Make it easy for immigration, foreigners, and lot of problems wll disappear.. Now there are too many different visa and too many rules and requirements.. And criminals should be stopped at the borders Immigration in Thailand is among the easiest in the World. I've no idea what you are on about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mberbae Posted December 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2022 Great idea. My daughters are being taught English by non native English speakers who ONLY teach English so that they can get a Visa. Never mind the Thai English teachers, many foreigners from non English speaking countries are not qualified to teach English. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANSIAM Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, d4dang said: Ironic isn't it...Russians fleeing a dictator finding refuge in a country run by a dictator And possibly find Education Visas very difficult to obtain soon, get home and grab your rifle...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Derek B said: Convicted criminals should show up on Immigration's radar surely.............perhaps no real checks are made. However not all criminals have convictions. Foreign government departments do not have unfettered access to another country’s criminal database generally. Unless you meant those convicted in Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulhamster Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, MaiChai said: Then you have those running away from dictator regimes. Straight into a similar "regime" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fulhamster Posted December 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, mberbae said: Great idea. My daughters are being taught English by non native English speakers who ONLY teach English so that they can get a Visa. Never mind the Thai English teachers, many foreigners from non English speaking countries are not qualified to teach English. My daughter's English teacher often has to ask what many English words mean, And forget having any sensible conversation with this teacher 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, skatewash said: The retirement extension doesn't require that you be retired (i.e., not working), it merely requires that you be at least age 50 and meet the financial requirements. You cannot work in Thailand under a retirement extension, but you can certainly work outside of Thailand. In practice, some people work from home in Thailand and while perhaps technically not allowed if done without any fanfare is likely to go undetected. My point was that they call it a retirement extension when it isn't, as you don't need to be retired. It really needs to be called something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Hmm. Education and Volunteer Visa's. Does this mean one cannot study Muay Thai for 3 years? Edited December 9, 2022 by sqwakvfr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseThailand Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, d4dang said: Ironic isn't it...Russians fleeing a dictator finding refuge in a country run by a dictator Compared to Putin, he is just a choir boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: My point was that they call it a retirement extension when it isn't, as you don't need to be retired. It really needs to be called something else. No no, we get enough confusion already with it being called a Visa.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 10 hours ago, kinyara said: You'd be surprised how few retirees are actually here and how irrelevant the number is in the overall scheme of things. You surely saw that in Jomtien during Covid, you could almost recognise all the expats you saw on a daily basis. I read an interview with the Head of Thai Immigration during Covid and he commented on how the number of retirees had declined in the last few years, I'm sure the figure he quoted was only 60k nationally, it really was surprisingly low. "..........he commented on how the number of retirees had declined in the last few years,..........." Why? Because Immigration have been making it more and more difficult for expats to obtain a Visa!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Easiest to do is change the ancient laws... and make a long term visa... for retirees 800.000 on a bankaccount or 65.000 income monthly or a combination for students subscribtion from schools and extensions letters from school with study results and how long the stydy will take for volunteers inviation and jobsubscription of the organisation In fact just as the paperwork you need for a workpermit for all visa. No agents or money carroussels , or immigrationofficers/familymembers who grant visa as an agent. Everything in a good working computer program and no copies anymore to save paper.. Only for extension original updates with stamps being scanned again and added tothe file. Yes a lot of immigration officers will be out of work, but they can be used as traffic police for roadsafety. And after 5 years consecutive extensions no 90 days reports anymore... Europe is an example that with one one visa you can do a lot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: Easiest to do is change the ancient laws... and make a long term visa... for retirees 800.000 on a bankaccount or 65.000 income monthly or a combination for students subscribtion from schools and extensions letters from school with study results and how long the stydy will take for volunteers inviation and jobsubscription of the organisation In fact just as the paperwork you need for a workpermit for all visa. No agents or money carroussels , or immigrationofficers/familymembers who grant visa as an agent. Everything in a good working computer program and no copies anymore to save paper.. Only for extension original updates with stamps being scanned again and added tothe file. Yes a lot of immigration officers will be out of work, but they can be used as traffic police for roadsafety. And after 5 years consecutive extensions no 90 days reports anymore... Europe is an example that with one one visa you can do a lot.. "And after 5 years consecutive extensions no 90 days reports anymore..." Bravo! As a previous poster said a few months ago, Thailand seems to be the only place where you have to report every 90 days that nothing has changed since your previous visit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, sambum said: "..........he commented on how the number of retirees had declined in the last few years,..........." Why? Because Immigration have been making it more and more difficult for expats to obtain a Visa!!! Describe to me exactly how a retirement Extension has become more difficult to obtain in say the last year or maybe 2. The last change was when some Embassies refused to do income letters... not immigration's fault.. prior to that medical insurance on O-A Extensions, Oct 2019. Also the requirement to keep the 800k for 3 months and then 400k for 7. The ability to get a multi-O was another I can think of. All this a long time ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pla Simon Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 12 hours ago, kinyara said: Legitimate old codgers of the world can relax, the heat is off, we will survive. ???? You're not based in the UK, by the sound of it. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The more confusing and complicated it becomes to get a long term visa, the more the dubious agencies and I/O will benefit. Legitimate visa holders, for whatever reason who do their own paperwork will suffer. Big rise in Elite Visas? Are there any statistics on how many retirees are caught doing anything criminal? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelforbes Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, CANSIAM said: And possibly find Education Visas very difficult to obtain soon, get home and grab your rifle...... And when that happens, you know who to blame, all the scammers who have gone before you who have not learned a single useful word of Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelforbes Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Robin said: The more confusing and complicated it becomes to get a long term visa, the more the dubious agencies and I/O will benefit. Legitimate visa holders, for whatever reason who do their own paperwork will suffer. Big rise in Elite Visas? Are there any statistics on how many retirees are caught doing anything criminal? Four, they were playing bridge in Pattaya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 That working group has the potential to become a nice little earner for the officials lucky enough to be appointed to it. I wonder how much such officials are being asked to pay for the privilege. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbox Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, fulhamster said: My daughter's English teacher often has to ask what many English words mean, And forget having any sensible conversation with this teacher This topic is about ED and Volunteer visas. Teachers are here with work permits. ED - students, WP - teachers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Immigration Bureau made the move after former politician Chuwit Kamolvisit said that three former immigration police officers facilitated the longer stay of members of Chinese triads who set up foundations as their fronts in the country. Corruption allowed them to stay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: receive medical treatment Is this the end of Thailand as a medical tourism hub? I doubt this is what Thai authorities want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 14 hours ago, ikke1959 said: And criminals should be stopped at the borders That would mean border control doing their jobs? Rather than being paid for not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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