Popular Post webfact Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Picture: Sanook A street attack by three Pit Bull terriers on a 47 year old Thai man in the north east of Thailand was top of the news in Thailand yesterday. Sanook reported on the aftermath yesterday after the attack on Wednesday night in the village of Ban Jampa in Khor Yai sub-district of Ku Kaeo district in Udon Thani. They found dried blood stains on a concrete road outside a house in Moo 2 and a trail of blood leading to the house of the victim, Pornchai, 47. They found his torn jeans that were ripped apart and in tatters and covered in blood. Noophian, 59, the victim's sister in law said that Pornchai lived alone and was on his way back home at 8pm after getting some candles from the local shop to light up his house for his evening meal. Saksri's dogs were to blame. This is a neighbor. She said that her brother in law had had his genitals ripped apart in the vicious attack. He had been rushed to Udon Thani hospital but died there. She said she had heard Pornchai scream but that was not out of the ordinary as he has some minor mental health issues. She didn't dare go out. Picture: Sanook Another neighbor Bunsang, 60, said that no one dared help for fear that the dogs would turn on them. Maetim, another neighbor, said that everyone loved Pornchai in the village and would see him outside the shop and give him food. She said that such a breed of dog should not be kept there and if they were they should be securely locked up. "No one is daring to go out now," she said. Kusol, 67, recounted how the dogs had viciously attacked Pornchai rupturing arteries in his arms and legs. He was angry but their neighbor, the owner, was a good man who would take care of the funeral cost. Owner Saksri, 56, said he had been alerted to the attack in a call from his son and had pulled the dogs off. He had looked after the three male Pit Bulls for two years and they were usually mild mannered. This was the first time they had killed anyone. Picture: Sanook Someone had left a door ajar and the dogs had used their noses to get out into the street and head for some fields. Other dogs had bitten them, he claimed. He said that he has had enough of looking after the dogs and would get them another home. He promised to take care of all the funeral expenses and take full responsibility. ASEAN NOW has carried many stories about this breed in recent weeks and months. There have been many attacks prompting calls for the breed - and other aggressive dogs - to be banned in Thailand. Many critics point to laws that favor dogs over humans. Having dogs put down is problematical. Dog lovers say that irresponsible or clueless owners are to blame and that Pit Bulls can make loving family pets if trained correctly. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-12-16 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 6
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, webfact said: This was the first time they had killed anyone. Probably still young! 9 4 2 8
Popular Post JoePai Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 They need putting down - NOW ! 53 21 10
Popular Post jacko45k Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Owwwww! Sounds very unpleasant. 2 1
Popular Post KhunLA Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 A pleasant bowl of antifreeze would have solved that neighborhoods problems. R I P 12 1 1
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Probably still young! Yes, what the heck is thar statement even mean for....like would it have been better if it had killed one or two people before... Jeeze. I can't undersrand people's attitudes here. How can the guys family say the owner is a good man? How can people in the village not be angry and want justice? They are Co tent to just live in fear! How can the guy get away with no consequences... Only paying for the funeral? And even above all this, he can the dogs not be put to sleep... They are giving them a new home! Who in their right mind would want to keep them now? 18 2 6 11
Popular Post ningnong Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 A ticking time bomb for Thailand that should to be defused immediately but sadly that won't happen. 10 1 1
Popular Post realfunster Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 RIP to the man, sounds like a horrible way to go. After the "heated" debate in another thread after other pit bull attacks last week....I look forward to round 2. 3 2
Popular Post HuskerDo2 Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 What a horrible way to die. "Another neighbor Bunsang, 60, said that no one dared help for fear that the dogs would turn on them."...... shows what a bunch of misfit neighbors they have. If it was a child would they still not intervene? All Pit Bulls should be eliminated from the face of the earth. They serve no good but way too often attack innocent people for no reason and without warning. 12 7 8
Popular Post nigelforbes Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 "owner says he's had enough of his pets", ....imagine how the victim feels. 11 1 10 1
Popular Post jvs Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Two year old pitbulls,3 of them like a loaded gun waiting to be used. Terrible but there will be more stories like this every week or so. Also a story about an 8 week old puppy that "attacked' some one. Clueless people and the mai pen rai attitude. No reason to look for the why any further. They have never killed anyone before,what a comment! The laws need to be changed and in a hurry! Dog bites? bullet in the head. Yes i can also not understand why the village people did not shoot them, the fact is there are many guns around. You can not talk reason with brain washed people,sad. 15 6 4
Popular Post proton Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, realfunster said: RIP to the man, sounds like a horrible way to go. After the "heated" debate in another thread after other pit bull attacks last week....I look forward to round 2. Always the same, one side talking common sense about these beasts and wanting them banned and the attackers put down. The 'Pittie' lovers side claiming they only attack due to bad training and being provoked, and that they are happy to let babies be alone with these killer dogs. I know which side i'm on. All Pitbulls are a volcano of violence just waiting to go off at random. 16 5 6 1
Popular Post persimmon Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 There is one of these at a house on our soi . It`s huge and I wouldn`t want to be anywhere in the vacinity if it ever got out . The main reason people keep these things is to intimidate the neighbours . The Thai media has christened them " kartagorn see kah " , or 4 legged killers - that`s just about right. The owners of these dogs that savage people should be charged with manslaughter and put behind bars . 15 4 8
Popular Post steven100 Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 43 minutes ago, webfact said: This was the first time they had killed anyone. well ... that's a relief to know that. Lol 4 1 10
Popular Post Will B Good Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, webfact said: This was the first time they had killed anyone. Shouldn't laugh really. 1 3
Popular Post Will B Good Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 I have yet to see any Thais look after their dogs (in a rural setting). They are just 'there'.........totally uncared for..........covered in fleas and ticks, suffering from worms, unwashed, no collars roaming free or worse caged 23/7, chasing cars and motorcyclists or dragging two legs behind them or walking on three legs as they struggle to survive........absolutely disgusting.....and the worst of it is no one gives a damn. 24 7 9
Popular Post Letseng Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said: What a horrible way to die. "Another neighbor Bunsang, 60, said that no one dared help for fear that the dogs would turn on them."...... shows what a bunch of misfit neighbors they have. If it was a child would they still not intervene? All Pit Bulls should be eliminated from the face of the earth. They serve no good but way too often attack innocent people for no reason and without warning. Pitbulls or any other dog are what the owner wants them to be. No dog is vicious by nature. When dogs get taunted by ppl/kids they turn vicious. 1 11
Popular Post bendejo Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Now the owner must get the hoodoo guys to protect him from the "testicle-less man" spirit who will pursue him seeking vengeance. 2 2
IvorBiggun2 Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 There is no such thing as a Pit Bull. Quote “Pit Bull” is an umbrella term commonly reported to contain the following 3 registered breeds of dogs: Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and American Pit Bull Terrier. So to sensationalise a story any one of those dogs/breeds can and are labeled 'Pit Bulls'. Hence why Pit Bull attacks are reportedly high. It's all siht (anagram) to keep blaming a Pit Bull when basically it could one of at least 3 breeds. But there again a 'Staffie' dog attack doesn't attract readers. So......... 1
JonnyF Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Doesn't look like a PitBull to me. Looks like some kind of bulldog mastiff cross. Still, PitBull gets the clicks, so PitBull it is. Proceed with calls for breed specific bans, culling of all PitBulls, painful deaths for PitBull owners etc. ???? 1
JonnyF Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said: There is no such thing as a Pit Bull. So to sensationalise a story any one of those dogs/breeds can and are labeled 'Pit Bulls'. Hence why Pit Bull attacks are reportedly high. It's all siht (anagram) to keep blaming a Pit Bull when basically it could one of at least 3 breeds. But there again a 'Staffie' dog attack doesn't attract readers. So......... And that dog doesn't look like any of those 3 breeds (to an educated eye). 1 1
Popular Post HuskerDo2 Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Letseng said: Pitbulls or any other dog are what the owner wants them to be. No dog is vicious by nature. When dogs get taunted by ppl/kids they turn vicious. "No dog is vicious by nature"...... you couldn't be more misinformed. The past studies and research shows pit bulls are among the most aggressive dogs. 12 2 9
Popular Post jvs Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Letseng said: Pitbulls or any other dog are what the owner wants them to be. No dog is vicious by nature. When dogs get taunted by ppl/kids they turn vicious. I believe you are wrong,breeding has a lot to do with it. Some dogs will bite others will not. 3 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, persimmon said: There is one of these at a house on our soi . It`s huge and I wouldn`t want to be anywhere in the vacinity if it ever got out . The main reason people keep these things is to intimidate the neighbours . The Thai media has christened them " kartagorn see kah " , or 4 legged killers - that`s just about right. The owners of these dogs that savage people should be charged with manslaughter and put behind bars . If it's huge then it's probably not a "PitBull". Probably a mixture of bulldog, mastiff, maybe some other bull breeds in there as well. Real "Pitbulls" (American Pitbull Terrier) tend to be around 25 kilos which is by no means a huge dog. Also, they were bred to fight dogs, not humans and tend to be very friendly towards people. 1 8
Popular Post proton Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Letseng said: Pitbulls or any other dog are what the owner wants them to be. No dog is vicious by nature. When dogs get taunted by ppl/kids they turn vicious. Nonsense, Pitbulls are genetically imprinted for aggression and violence, they do not need provoking and rarely are before they attack and kill. If they are not vicious by nature why do they need to be trained not to be? Even with the best training they are still highly unpredictable and dangerous, the stats on dog attacks prove it. Stop making excuses for these killing machines. 18 1 2 11
Popular Post HuskerDo2 Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Just now, Letseng said: Pitbulls or any other dog are what the owner wants them to be. No dog is vicious by nature. When dogs get taunted by ppl/kids they turn vicious. Facts carry more weight than opinion...... Pit bulls are regularly cited as one of the most dangerous dogs. In the 16-year period from 2005 through 2020, pit bulls contributed to 67% (380) of dog bite deaths. Throughout history, pit bulls have been bred to fight. 9 9 1
Popular Post worgeordie Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 Another attack .....when will the powers that be realise these dogs are very dangerous ,especially with owners who have no idea how to control them , expect nothing to happen until someone famous or influential is attacked or killed ... regards worgeordie 12
Popular Post G Rex Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said: There is no such thing as a Pit Bull. So to sensationalise a story any one of those dogs/breeds can and are labeled 'Pit Bulls'. Hence why Pit Bull attacks are reportedly high. It's all siht (anagram) to keep blaming a Pit Bull when basically it could one of at least 3 breeds. But there again a 'Staffie' dog attack doesn't attract readers. So......... A true Staffordshire Bull terrier will not attack a person, although many are not good with other dogs. A Pitbull or Amstaff type dog is completely different. These dogs are unpredictable, and a previously docile dog can 'turn' and exhibit excessive aggression - as in this case. Over 35 years working as a veterinarian I have seen or heard of countless acts of (generally) unprovoked aggression by 'Pitties' , or Pitbull Crosses. They do not have to be purebred to be bad. It only seems to take a touch of their genetics to create the time bomb that these dogs are. They are restricted or banned in many countries for very good reason. 12 3 9
IvorBiggun2 Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Still, PitBull gets the clicks, so PitBull it is. Nah, it's an 'American Bully'. 2
JonnyF Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, G Rex said: They do not have to be purebred to be bad. It only seems to take a touch of their genetics to create the time bomb that these dogs are. I would argue it is the cross breeding that creates issues. Purebred "dog fighting" dogs are very human friendly, they were bred to fight other dogs and human aggression was an undesirable trait. It's when you cross breed them with breeds such as Mastiffs (which have been used as war dogs to fight humans, or to protect property from humans) that you end up with the strength and tenacity of the "PitBull" and the human aggression/size of the Mastiff (not picking on Mastiffs here, could be other breeds as well). This is why you end up with "huge Pitbulls" which aren't actually "Pitbulls" at all. When such a dog attacks, it is labelled a "PitBull" attack, when in fact it is essentially a mongrel or a cross breed. If you broke down the figures, I'd bet a huge proportion of these "PitBull" attacks are not a specific breed such as the American PitBull Terrier or the Staffordshire Bull Terrier but a mix of various breeds, some of which may have been bred for human aggression. This is why breed specific legislation is such a nonsense. The label "PitBull" is vastly misused. The dog in the OP is a good example. Clearly a mix (I'd guess a Mastiff/American Bulldog mix) but labelled a PitBull. Hence all the uneducated posts on this thread screaming for a ban on PitBulls. 1 1
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