Controversial media influencer Andrew Tate arrested in Romania.

[Hummin]

11 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

On one side he seems to be an a$@hole.

 

On the other side he does not shy away from telling the truth. Recently I saw (part of) an interview from Piers Morgan with him. A lot of what he said made sense. And some of what he said is what lots of people don't dare to talk about anymore because they are scared that they will be cancelled.

 

Obviously, I don't know what he did or didn't do in Romania and other places. Maybe he committed crimes. But maybe he just behaved in a way that many people don't like and that was reason enough to arrest him.

 

Let's see how this will go on. Will there be real evidence that he committed crimes? Or maybe just more of those MeToo accusations (without evidence)?

My view on him, he have an abusive rude and disrespectful way of expressing himself. Not a person I would thrive to be around, And I could not care less about his half truths mixed with his personality. 
 

I doubt he got jailed for being disliked. Thats a far fetched conspiracy! 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hummin

[OneMoreFarang]

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

My view on him, he have an abusive rude and disrespectful way of expressing himself. Not a person I would thrive to be around, And I could not care less about his half truths mixed with his personality. 
 

I doubt he got jailed for being disliked. Thats a far fetched conspiracy! 

Is it "abusive rude and disrespectful" when he describes Megan Markle the way many people see her?

And I wrote clearly that I don't know why he was arrested. The fact that he was arrested is no evidence that he committed any crime.

[ozimoron]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Is it "abusive rude and disrespectful" when he describes Megan Markle the way many people see her?

And I wrote clearly that I don't know why he was arrested. The fact that he was arrested is no evidence that he committed any crime.

Of course it isn't. At the same time it is a reason for people to pile on. Should those people say nothing absent a conviction? When did that ever happen?

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is it "abusive rude and disrespectful" when he describes Megan Markle the way many people see her?

And I wrote clearly that I don't know why he was arrested. The fact that he was arrested is no evidence that he committed any crime.

If you don't know why he was arrested I suggest to check first before posting.

"In a statement, authorities said two British citizens and two Romanians were accused of forming a gang that recruited victims by “misrepresenting their intention to enter into a marriage/cohabitation relationship and the existence of genuine feelings of love”. Later, the victims were forced to perform pornography “through physical violence and mental coercion"."

From the guardian, link provided earlier in the thread.

[OneMoreFarang]

29 minutes ago, stevenl said:

If you don't know why he was arrested I suggest to check first before posting.

"In a statement, authorities said two British citizens and two Romanians were accused of forming a gang that recruited victims by “misrepresenting their intention to enter into a marriage/cohabitation relationship and the existence of genuine feelings of love”. Later, the victims were forced to perform pornography “through physical violence and mental coercion"."

From the guardian, link provided earlier in the thread.

That is the accusation.

It reminds me of all those victims which are rescued from prostitution. It seems nobody in this world knows when they enter that trade. They are all innocent victims which have no clue what might happen.

Again, I don't know if maybe he did all those crimes. Maybe. But just because he was accused and arrested is no proof that he did it. He is rich and I am sure lots of "victims" want that money. 

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That is the accusation.

It reminds me of all those victims which are rescued from prostitution. It seems nobody in this world knows when they enter that trade. They are all innocent victims which have no clue what might happen.

Again, I don't know if maybe he did all those crimes. Maybe. But just because he was accused and arrested is no proof that he did it. He is rich and I am sure lots of "victims" want that money. 

You said you didn't know why he was arrested. The link shows you why.

Some will also after a conviction claim the convict is innocent.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

On one side he seems to be an a$@hole.

 

On the other side he does not shy away from telling the truth. Recently I saw (part of) an interview from Piers Morgan with him. A lot of what he said made sense. And some of what he said is what lots of people don't dare to talk about anymore because they are scared that they will be cancelled.

 

Obviously, I don't know what he did or didn't do in Romania and other places. Maybe he committed crimes. But maybe he just behaved in a way that many people don't like and that was reason enough to arrest him.

 

Let's see how this will go on. Will there be real evidence that he committed crimes? Or maybe just more of those MeToo accusations (without evidence)?

Did you join his University? Its still actively being promoted on Google ads.

 

ANDREW TATE

Who Is Hustler's University 3.0 For?

https://hustleruniversity.co.uk/

 

Members, including boys as young as 13, are told they can earn up to £10,000 a month through lessons on crypto investing, drop shipping and by recruiting others to Hustler’s University, earning 48% commission for each person they refer.

To have the best chance of getting people to sign up, they are advised to stoke controversy to improve their chances of going viral.

In one guide, Hustler’s University “students” are told that attracting “comments and controversy” is the key to success: “What you ideally want is a mix of 60-70% fans and 40-30% haters. You want arguments, you want war.”

 

Pure sleaze ball who rakes in millions on the back of offending people. 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Bluespunk]

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You said you didn't know why he was arrested. The link shows you why.

Some will also after a conviction claim the convict is innocent.

Sadly you are probably right; there are some who may well do so and others who will no doubt claim it’s all about money. 

[Slip]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That is the accusation.

It reminds me of all those victims which are rescued from prostitution. It seems nobody in this world knows when they enter that trade. They are all innocent victims which have no clue what might happen.

Again, I don't know if maybe he did all those crimes. Maybe. But just because he was accused and arrested is no proof that he did it. He is rich and I am sure lots of "victims" want that money. 

Trafficking reminds you of prostitution?  I put it to you that such an attitude is part of the problem.  Stop carrying water for this sleazy dirtbag.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

You said you didn't know why he was arrested. The link shows you why.

Some will also after a conviction claim the convict is innocent.

Let me try to explain this to you: Sometimes the police stop me with my bike in Thailand.

They accuse me of riding in the wrong lane.

But the reason why they stop me is because they want money.

Comprende?

 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Did you join his University? Its still actively being promoted on Google ads.

 

ANDREW TATE

Who Is Hustler's University 3.0 For?

https://hustleruniversity.co.uk/

 

Members, including boys as young as 13, are told they can earn up to £10,000 a month through lessons on crypto investing, drop shipping and by recruiting others to Hustler’s University, earning 48% commission for each person they refer.

To have the best chance of getting people to sign up, they are advised to stoke controversy to improve their chances of going viral.

In one guide, Hustler’s University “students” are told that attracting “comments and controversy” is the key to success: “What you ideally want is a mix of 60-70% fans and 40-30% haters. You want arguments, you want war.”

 

Pure sleaze ball who rakes in millions on the back of offending people. 

Why should I do that? If you are interested, go ahead and pay for it.

My point was and is that only because someone is an a$%hole that doesn't mean he is also a criminal.

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let me try to explain this to you: Sometimes the police stop me with my bike in Thailand.

They accuse me of riding in the wrong lane.

But the reason why they stop me is because they want money.

Comprende?

 

Translated: You didn't inform yourself, made a stupid post defending this scum an now try to wiggle your way out 

[Phoenix Rising]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I thought the law states innocent until proven guilty ?

 

People on the right are guilty until proved innocent? ????

 

Please provide links proving his guilt. 

Now where was this touching belief in the justice system when you were bleeting "lock her up"?

[OneMoreFarang]

48 minutes ago, Slip said:

Trafficking reminds you of prostitution?  I put it to you that such an attitude is part of the problem.  Stop carrying water for this sleazy dirtbag.

Do you read the news from time to time? Or watch it?

Because it happens regularly (in Thailand, but not only in Thailand) that someone is accused of trafficking because some women are found in a place with prostitution. 

Like: Someone offered me a job as maid for 5000$ a month, without any qualifications, but they were only interested in young women. I never thought it could be that job. Now the police rescued me...

 

That doesn't mean trafficking doesn't exist. And obviously real trafficking is a seriously bad crime, and those traffickers should go to jail for a long time. But it seems to be also easy to accuse someone of trafficking. And again, I don't know if he did it or not. But an accusation is just that, an accusation.

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Translated: You didn't inform yourself, made a stupid post defending this scum an now try to wiggle your way out 

Or you need to explain why you don't understand the difference.

I make it easy for you: I will block you so that I don't have to read more of this drivel. 

No need to reply. 

[Phoenix Rising]

12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let me try to explain this to you: Sometimes the police stop me with my bike in Thailand.

They accuse me of riding in the wrong lane.

But the reason why they stop me is because they want money.

Comprende?

 

No, that can't be true! The coup that happened 7 years ago was done to cleanse Thailand of corruption (the General has said so on many occasions) so if what you say is true then it was all a lie just to get sole access to the trough and all those who've defended him over the years look like complete..........

Tell me it isn't so!

[JonnyF]

21 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Now where was this touching belief in the justice system when you were bleeting "lock her up"?

Lock WHO up?

 

Provide links to my post asking for a female (whoever you are referring to, I have no idea) to be locked up based on no evidence.

 

Links or a retraction. Chop chop. Good lad.

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is it "abusive rude and disrespectful" when he describes Megan Markle the way many people see her?

And I wrote clearly that I don't know why he was arrested. The fact that he was arrested is no evidence that he committed any crime.

I did not see the specific Megan description, and was not aware of him before someone posted a videoclip of him describing Thai girls/women.

 

Read I did not say he was guilty of the charges or not, and it is my right to express My dislike of him based on what I have seen, and what I see as half truths he serves and arrogant statements.

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hummin

[BananaStrong]

You choose your life.  You choose your lifestyle.  The results happen.   

 

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Nobody's perfect.  Tom Cruise with his divorces and crazy religion.  Tate with his women bashing and probably not book smart, Tom Brady with his endless divorces, Kobe....well, yea, RIP Kobe....

 

Most people prefer to just play it safe.......and then simply die and let other take the risks.

 

My "Life Metric" isn't if you made money in life.   Nope, or I would worship Musk.  Oh wait, he lost 200 billion.  So, now what?

 

Quit wasting time thinking over this Tate guy.....................but I'll be happy if he stays in jail forever.   no reason, just seems like a person who should be in jail for life.  protect society. 

[Slip]

35 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you read the news from time to time? Or watch it?

Because it happens regularly (in Thailand, but not only in Thailand) that someone is accused of trafficking because some women are found in a place with prostitution. 

Like: Someone offered me a job as maid for 5000$ a month, without any qualifications, but they were only interested in young women. I never thought it could be that job. Now the police rescued me...

 

That doesn't mean trafficking doesn't exist. And obviously real trafficking is a seriously bad crime, and those traffickers should go to jail for a long time. But it seems to be also easy to accuse someone of trafficking. And again, I don't know if he did it or not. But an accusation is just that, an accusation.

I refer you to stevenl's most salient and excellent point from a little earlier:

38 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Translated: You didn't inform yourself, made a stupid post defending this scum an now try to wiggle your way out 

 

[placeholder]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I thought the law states innocent until proven guilty ?

 

People on the right are guilty until proved innocent? ????

 

Please provide links proving his guilt. 

You should go first since you blamed his arrest on this:

"That's what happens when you speak truth to power. It was inevitable."

[Bkk Brian]

49 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why should I do that? If you are interested, go ahead and pay for it.

My point was and is that only because someone is an a$%hole that doesn't mean he is also a criminal.

My point was "He's a pure sleaze ball who rakes in millions on the back of offending people."   nothing to do with whether he's a criminal or guilty of these particular accusations, I was referring to your defense of him here:

 

"On the other side he does not shy away from telling the truth. Recently I saw (part of) an interview from Piers Morgan with him. A lot of what he said made sense. And some of what he said is what lots of people don't dare to talk about anymore because they are scared that they will be cancelled."

 

I've not seen the interview and can think of nothing worse than doing so, knowing what a slime ball he is and his hate speech leveled at people including Thais is enough for me to dismiss him as a waste of space.

 

Regards his arrest and your comment:

 

"Let's see how this will go on. Will there be real evidence that he committed crimes? Or maybe just more of those MeToo accusations (without evidence)?"

 

Its clear you are already questioning its authenticity despite it involving a group of people being arrested after an 8 month investigation and being given court permission to detain for 30 days. Yes he may be innocent but to try to use a victim card on his defense.........

 

 

[Tug]

Well if this (abomination) thinks women belong to the house and he’s sent to the house what does that make him humm…….the house bitch?most conns don’t like rapist 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

I've not seen the interview and can think of nothing worse than doing so, knowing what a slime ball he is and his hate speech leveled at people including Thais is enough for me to dismiss him as a waste of space.

I heard about him some time ago, but I never bothered to look at any of his videos. Lots of people wrote or said he is a bad guy, hates women, and all that.

And then one day I looked at YouTube and was bored and there was this part of an interview with Piers Morgan, and I thought: ok, let's look for 10 minutes what this is all about. I was expecting lots of idiotic talking. But that is not what I saw. A lot of what he said made sense. He pointed out a couple of facts which in these politically correct times are often not mentioned (to make sure nobody could be offended).

He also made some comments which sounded a little strange, but nothing too crazy.

The summary of watching this was for me: Only because lots of people speak bad about someone doesn't mean he is actually so bad. Sometimes it's good to listen to that possible bad guy to find out that he is not as bad as many people make him. At least that was my impression after that 10min video.

 

All that doesn't make me a fan of him. I won't watch now lots of video with him and I won't look at his "university" or any of that. But I also don't think he is such a bad guy that he must be cancelled and if possible jailed and removed from publicity and all that. And if he is a criminal then obviously he should go to jail. 

[JonnyF]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

You should go first since you blamed his arrest on this:

"That's what happens when you speak truth to power. It was inevitable."

I don’t need to provide links proving his innocence.

 

If you have links proving his guilt, post them. 
 

Yeah, didn’t think so…

[placeholder]

Just now, JonnyF said:

I don’t need to provide links proving his innocence.

 

If you have links proving his guilt, post them. 
 

Yeah, didn’t think so…

It's always a mark of weakness when someone makes a comment on a reply not yet given.

I got some exciting news for you. This isn't a court of law. No one's on trial here. But there are rules. And here's one specifically posted for this forum:

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

Can  you support your claim with a valid link to an approved credible source?

I thought....Nah I'll leave it to the likes of you to indulge in that class of empty rhetoric.

 

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's always a mark of weakness when someone makes a comment on a reply not yet given.

I got some exciting news for you. This isn't a court of law. No one's on trial here. But there are rules. And here's one specifically posted for this forum:

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

Can  you support your claim with a valid link to an approved credible source?

I thought....Nah I'll leave it to the likes of you to indulge in that class of empty rhetoric.

 

You’re giving yourself way too much credit, that news wasn’t very exciting at all.

 

If you have proof of his guilt, post links.

 

 

[placeholder]

32 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You’re giving yourself way too much credit, that news wasn’t very exciting at all.

 

If you have proof of his guilt, post links.

 

 

I've made no claims about his guilt or innocence. So it's not incumbent upon me to provide any evidence at all. 

You started this with your as yet unbacked claim. I'm beginning to suspect that you have no evidence to back that up at all. That you've got nothing.

Edited December 31, 2022 by placeholder

[Jingthing]

The Romanian legal system is based on the Napoleonic code.

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