thaibeachlovers Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Whirby said: That pretty much sums up every aspect of the man's entire being. How he keeps getting lawyers to take on his cases is baffling. By being involved in his shenanigans, they all end up having to get their own lawyers, if not getting sanction, disbarred, or imprisoned. Explains his string of legal losses over the past couple years though. I don't think many legit legal firms or top lawyers want anything to do with him at this point. Hmmm. If he can't get legal representation should a court case proceed? Every accused has a right to representation in court, don't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Link? Unfortunately, the full article is behind a paywall but the headline couldn't be clearer. Article from 'The Economist' in 2018: https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/04/05/the-promised-post-brexit-trade-deal-with-america-may-never-materialise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, RayC said: Unfortunately, the full article is behind a paywall but the headline couldn't be clearer. Article from 'The Economist' in 2018: https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/04/05/the-promised-post-brexit-trade-deal-with-america-may-never-materialise Actually, if you register with the Economist, you can read 3 free articles per month. And if you delete Economist cookies from your browser each time you reach the 3 article limit, then you can read as many articles as you like. You just have to log in again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHank Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 9:37 PM, Bkk Brian said: Covid lockdowns and why they were in place is not the topic here so I won't bother with the most logical reply to that and derail the topic further Feel free to send me your logical response in a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 16 hours ago, RayC said: So this week's fall guy for the failure of Brexit is Biden. Well I suppose that it makes a change from it all being down to the nasty EU. They're probably in it together. Despicable! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 hours ago, RayC said: Unfortunately, the full article is behind a paywall but the headline couldn't be clearer. Article from 'The Economist' in 2018: https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/04/05/the-promised-post-brexit-trade-deal-with-america-may-never-materialise Published after Trump had been in office 15 months. It ends giving a few reasons why a trade deal with Trump was unlikely: "Finally Britain must navigate what one official calls Mr Trump’s idées fixes, such as his obsession with balanced trade (a problem given Britain’s sizeable current-account surplus with America) or his desire to equalise tariffs imposed on German cars entering America, and vice versa. Insiders predict that Britain will be pressed to scrap all import tariffs for American-made cars, even if Britain is still imposing them on cars from the EU. As it happens, the largest single shipper of American-made cars to Britain, accounting for 20,000 sales last year, is a BMW plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina." Of course we now know that no trade deal happened under Trump. I don' thing there was much of a push for one. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Hmmm. If he can't get legal representation should a court case proceed? Every accused has a right to representation in court, don't they? Yes, a public defender will be appointed in a criminal trial. If it's a civil trial it will proceed with or without a lawyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Hmmm. If he can't get legal representation should a court case proceed? Every accused has a right to representation in court, don't they? They don't have a right to indefinitely delay legal proceedings. Edited February 18, 2023 by placeholder 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 6:13 PM, candide said: Woke is a convenient word for rightwingers to express their prejudices without explicitly targeting people. They don't dare to say I hate gays, blacks, muslims, etc, so they just say "I hate woke". If you read your own comment again, you may realize how ridiculously impossible it is 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, nauseus said: If you read your own comment again, you may realize how ridiculously impossible it is I agree with him. It's Orwellian double speak. They use epithets instead of explaining their case. How about you try explaining yours? It's far from ridiculous. The culture wars are all about not having a political agenda they can espouse in public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Trumps gotta Trump. We need new entertainment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 7:27 PM, RayC said: So this week's fall guy for the failure of Brexit is Biden. Well I suppose that it makes a change from it all being down to the nasty EU. What a wonderful diversionary jump from Nicola Sturgeon resigning, to Trump sneaking onto the topic somehow, and now to President Biden and the failure of Brexit, (his part in the downfall of Brexit). The topic of the thread has nothing to do with either President Biden, or Brexit, or even Kim Jong Un by the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 23 hours ago, ozimoron said: I agree with him. It's Orwellian double speak. They use epithets instead of explaining their case. How about you try explaining yours? It's far from ridiculous. The culture wars are all about not having a political agenda they can espouse in public. Double speak? you seem to be an expert. Where and who are all these far righters spouting "I hate woke"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, billd766 said: What a wonderful diversionary jump from Nicola Sturgeon resigning, to Trump sneaking onto the topic somehow, and now to President Biden and the failure of Brexit, (his part in the downfall of Brexit). The topic of the thread has nothing to do with either President Biden, or Brexit, or even Kim Jong Un by the way. I can only reiterate my reply to Mac (see previous page). If you had bothered to read the whole thread you would found that JohnyF introduced Trump and Brexit into the conversation (1st page@10:04). Maybe your comment would be better directed to him rather than me, or does the fact that he's a fellow Brexiter rule that out? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 2:00 PM, heybruce said: Published after Trump had been in office 15 months. It ends giving a few reasons why a trade deal with Trump was unlikely: "Finally Britain must navigate what one official calls Mr Trump’s idées fixes, such as his obsession with balanced trade (a problem given Britain’s sizeable current-account surplus with America) or his desire to equalise tariffs imposed on German cars entering America, and vice versa. Insiders predict that Britain will be pressed to scrap all import tariffs for American-made cars, even if Britain is still imposing them on cars from the EU. As it happens, the largest single shipper of American-made cars to Britain, accounting for 20,000 sales last year, is a BMW plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina." Of course we now know that no trade deal happened under Trump. I don' thing there was much of a push for one. Well as the UK was still restricted by EU rules until end Jan 2020 there wasn't a lot of time to negotiate much, was there? And we know Biden loves the UK, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, RayC said: I can only reiterate my reply to Mac (see previous page). If you had bothered to read the whole thread you would found that JohnyF introduced Trump and Brexit into the conversation (1st page@10:04). Maybe your comment would be better directed to him rather than me, or does the fact that he's a fellow Brexiter rule that out? Trump is the first name in the topic line. Why mention introductions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 8:12 AM, thaibeachlovers said: While I agree with him about no loss with her going, I was wondering why he had a beef with her till I was reminded of his golf courses in Scotland. His mother is Scottish, maybe she didn't \ doesn't like SNP or Sturgeon, cranky wasn't popular with all Scots 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, nauseus said: Double speak? you seem to be an expert. Where and who are all these far righters spouting "I hate woke"? Are you kidding me? Serious question. It's a daily theme around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 43 minutes ago, nauseus said: Trump is the first name in the topic line. Why mention introductions? Is this meant to be a joke or a serious question? Either way, I don't understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, nauseus said: Double speak? you seem to be an expert. Where and who are all these far righters spouting "I hate woke"? Not literally expressed with this sentence, but hate is there (ok, among politicians, it may also be motivated by opportunism). Just look at some posts in the Florida book ban thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RayC said: I can only reiterate my reply to Mac (see previous page). If you had bothered to read the whole thread you would found that JohnyF introduced Trump and Brexit into the conversation (1st page@10:04). Maybe your comment would be better directed to him rather than me, or does the fact that he's a fellow Brexiter rule that out? It was directed at you as it was your post I specifically answered. I have no idea if @JohhnyF is/was a Brexiteer of not. If I was responding to his post, I would have directed my post to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, billd766 said: It was directed at you as it was your post I specifically answered. I have no idea if @JohhnyF is/was a Brexiteer of not. If I was responding to his post, I would have directed my post to him. 22 minutes ago, billd766 said: And my post was in direct response to JohnyF. If you want to accuse anyone of diversion and introducing off-topic subjects it might be best to direct your comment to the right person. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 17 hours ago, pedro01 said: Trumps gotta Trump. We need new entertainment. Indeed. I mentioned before he was elected that it would be an entertaining time and I wasn't wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 17 hours ago, RayC said: If you had bothered to read the whole thread you would found that JohnyF introduced Trump and Brexit into the conversation (1st page@10:04). Trump is in the thread title. The thread is literally about Trump. So you are accusing me of introducing Trump into a thread about Trump? ???? As for Brexit, I mentioned Trump (the topic of the thread) being open to a trade deal with Britain. Never mentioned Brexit.???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 9 hours ago, JonnyF said: Trump is in the thread title. The thread is literally about Trump. So you are accusing me of introducing Trump into a thread about Trump? ???? As for Brexit, I mentioned Trump (the topic of the thread) being open to a trade deal with Britain. Never mentioned Brexit.???? You're right. But why have a dig at me? I've not accused you of anything - apart from being completely wrong about Trump being on the cusp of giving the UK a FTA. You too ought to direct your comment to the right quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 9 hours ago, JonnyF said: It's Jonny not Johny, Rhay. My apologies. Sorry if I've spoilt your day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirby Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 7:14 PM, thaibeachlovers said: Hmmm. If he can't get legal representation should a court case proceed? Every accused has a right to representation in court, don't they? Oh he can still get lawyers. They're just not the ones who deal with high profile white collar crimes. For instance those two women he trots out there with his most ridiculous cases. One was an environmental lawyer and the other was resolving parking tickets. Not exactly the cream of the crop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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