Popular Post Social Media Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 As former President Donald Trump ramps up his 2024 presidential campaign, new polling reveals that while more than half of Americans believe he intentionally did something illegal after his indictment, many believe it was politically motivated. Trump was arraigned Tuesday in New York City on charges stemming from alleged 2016 hush money payments to adult film actress Stormy Daniels, making him the first former president in American history to be criminally charged. A recent ABC News/Ipsos poll found that 48% of Americans think Trump should suspend his presidential campaign following the indictment, up 5 points from last week. 2 1
Popular Post 2009 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 So, Trump runs for president, they indict him, and half the people think he should stop running. ???? Sad day for democracy. ???? I wonder if those people are democrats, by any chance? 7 5 2 1 2 5
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, 2009 said: So, Trump runs for president, they indict him, and half the people think he should stop running. ???? Sad day for democracy. ???? I wonder if those people are democrats, by any chance? I agree. Let him run and lose in 2024. 7 6 3
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, 2009 said: So, Trump runs for president, they indict him, and half the people think he should stop running. ???? Sad day for democracy. ???? I wonder if those people are democrats, by any chance? I would agree that people shouldn't necessarily change their mind if he's indicted but it's up to each individual. If he's convicted, that's another matter. I would have serious problems understanding why someone would want to vote for someone who's been convicted of a felony. 3 3 2
Popular Post Tug Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 He won’t withdraw its his most lucrative grift and a easy way to get the attention he craves 9 5 1
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, 2009 said: So, Trump runs for president, they indict him, and half the people think he should stop running. ???? Sad day for democracy. ???? I wonder if those people are democrats, by any chance? This will galvanise his support and Trumps popularity will increase , jut like it did after the Marlegoo raids 2 2 1 1 1 4
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: This will galvanise his support and Trumps popularity will increase , jut like it did after the Marlegoo raids His popularity hasn't increased. It's decreased. Links have been provided to polls which show that. Even Senate republicans don't want him to run. 3 3 5 2
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: This will galvanise his support and Trumps popularity will increase , jut like it did after the Marlegoo raids Clearly the Mar a Lago FBI search is the reason why Republicans scored a landslide victory in the midterms. 4 1 1 9
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: His popularity hasn't increased. It's decreased. Links have been provided to polls which show that. Even Senate republicans don't want him to run. Trumps popularity increased after the Mer le go raids https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-raid-boost-ron-desantis-poll-2022-8 Even if people don't like or support Trump , they would oppose the USA prosecuting /jailing its opposition political leaders, just to keep them from running in elections . 1 1 1 1 3
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Trumps popularity increased after the Mer le go raids https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-raid-boost-ron-desantis-poll-2022-8 Even if people don't like or support Trump , they would oppose the USA prosecuting /jailing its opposition political leaders, just to keep them from running in elections . His popularity among Republicans may have increased but his popularity among the American electorate on the whole? And of course, the poll you cite was taken right after the FBI search. What's more, later when Trump was pitted against Desantis in the wake of the November elections, his popularity was down. Not it's up again. So no good evidence that the Mar a Lago search lastingly benefited him. Also, even if it had permanently boosted his popularity among Republicans, what effect did it have on his popularity among the general electorate? I know that Republicans are trying to game elections so that Republican votes are overrepresented in general elections, but that's still far from being absolutely the case. 1 2
Popular Post Tug Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Trumps popularity increased after the Mer le go raids https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-raid-boost-ron-desantis-poll-2022-8 Even if people don't like or support Trump , they would oppose the USA prosecuting /jailing its opposition political leaders, just to keep them from running in elections . Just wait till the felony convictions start rolling in no sir he’s not going to the White House not by a long shot 3 2 1 1
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Trumps popularity increased after the Mer le go raids 18 minutes ago, placeholder said: And of course, the poll you cite was taken right after the FBI search. Yes, that was my point The raids increased his support 1 1 1
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tug said: Just wait till the felony convictions start rolling in no sir he’s not going to the White House not by a long shot You've been saying that longer than the Guy standing on the corner shouting to everyone that it wont be long before Jesus returns 1 1 2 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, that was my point The raids increased his support But what you didn't note in your text was that his support was raised among republicans but not among the general electorate. And since the poll featured here is a poll that samples all voters regardless of political orientation, your evidence is not relevant to the issue at hand. 2 1 2 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You've been saying that longer than the Guy standing on the corner shouting to everyone that it wont be long before Jesus returns Well, we don't know for sure what's holding Jesus up from returning, but maybe the reason is that he's using Trump's lawyers who are experts at delaying. 2 1 1
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: Well, we don't know for sure what's holding Jesus up from returning, but maybe the reason is that he's using Trump's lawyers who are experts at delaying. With Trump running again, there is no need for Jesus to come back, at the moment 1 1 3 1 3
Popular Post KhunLA Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 So the reality of the poll is: "Most Americans think Trump should continue to run for President" OK ... got it ... DEMOCRACY ROCKS 1 1 1 1
placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: With Trump running again, there is no need for Jesus to come back, at the moment With that in prospect, he may actually be running away. 1 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The raids increased his support If the raids did his indictment certainly didn't. Maybe you believe that because Trump ciaimed it? “Dropping like a rock”: New poll shows Trump falling into “fringe candidate” territory after arrest Support for former President Donald Trump fell rapidly after he was charged with 34 felony counts of business falsification in Manhattan last week, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll. Despite Trump's repeated claims that the indictment could actually help him by boosting his support in the election, the poll found that a majority of Americans — 53% — believe he did something illegal. The poll also showed that 11% say he acted wrongly but not intentionally, while 20% believe Trump was not culpable at all. https://www.salon.com/2023/04/11/dropping-like-a-rock-new-poll-shows-falling-into-fringe-candidate-territory-after-arrest/ 3
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, that was my point The raids increased his support Only amongst the die hard bamboozled fools who are still wearing the MAGA blinders. People are just exhausted by his idiotic tantrums. At first, he was a train wreck that you couldn't turn away from. Now, he just regurgitates the same spew ("witch hunt, no collusion, stolen election" etc.) and it's not even slightly entertaining any more. Election after election, Republicans who hitched their wagon to MAGA lost. Thankfully, they're going the way of dinosaurs. Buh bye. 7 1 3 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, KhunLA said: So the reality of the poll is: "Most Americans think Trump should continue to run for President" OK ... got it ... DEMOCRACY ROCKS Only if the poll shows over 50% support for not suspending his campaign. Typically, polls offer the option of 'don't know' or "no opinion". 1 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, KhunLA said: So the reality of the poll is: "Most Americans think Trump should continue to run for President" OK ... got it ... DEMOCRACY ROCKS May be your reality but the poll says different: 48% say he shouldn't 16% say don't know https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Half-of-Americans-say-Trump-charges-are-serious 3 2 1
Popular Post Walker88 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 The bloated clown is becoming the Posterboy for "LOSER". I've never seen even a 3 year old kid who whines as much as trump. Biggest crybaby ever in the public eye. And his constant use of superlatives...everything about him is "Best", everything about others is "Worst". Even the people he chose for his Administration....as soon as they stop sniffing the vapors and admit he's somewhere between heavily flawed and batsh -- it crazy, they're "slovenly and incompetent" or "deranged", or "dumb". A few days ago he claimed people were crying in the courthouse in NY when he was arraigned. NOBODY else saw anyone crying. It's kind of like his lie that he saw "thousands of Moslems dancing and celebrating in New Jersey after the Twin Towers collapsed". Total lie. Mr Mendacity. Let him run. He'll win the plurality if there are many R candidates, as his Cult are like the original Kool-Aid drinkers at Jim Jones' Jonestown. His candidacy GUARANTEES a Dem sweep in 2024....White House, Senate and House. 8 1 2 1 1
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 I agree that he shouldn't run again, but it has nothing to do with the indictments. I would rather see a younger and more palatable person in the White House. Really seems that fear is a big motivating factor amongst Democrats these days. They realized that they dodged a bullet in 2020, thanks to Covid. Absent the pandemic, Trump would have been re-elected easily. 1 1 3
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: I agree that he shouldn't run again, but it has nothing to do with the indictments. I would rather see a younger and more palatable person in the White House. Really seems that fear is a big motivating factor amongst Democrats these days. They realized that they dodged a bullet in 2020, thanks to Covid. Absent the pandemic, Trump would have been re-elected easily. Trump's reaction to the pandemic killed his re-election, not the pandemic itself. A decent president with half a brain would have listened to the experts and acted accordingly. Trump claimed the epidemic would be over by Easter and that injecting bleach would get rid of it. Not to mention numerous other egregious lies and pseudoscience. 7 1 1 2
placeholder Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Trump's reaction to the pandemic killed his re-election, not the pandemic itself. A decent president with half a brain would have listened to the experts and acted accordingly. Trump claimed the epidemic would be over by Easter and that injecting bleach would get rid of it. Not to mention numerous other egregious lies and pseudoscience. To be accurate, he didn't say bleach. He said disinfectant. So maybe he had Lysol in mind. 1 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 Just now, placeholder said: To be accurate, he didn't say bleach. He said disinfectant. So maybe he had Lysol in mind. In my defence I wasn't listening too carefully. I was more engaged in reading what the CDC had to say. 1 1 1
KhunLA Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 42 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: May be your reality but the poll says different: 48% say he shouldn't 16% say don't know https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Half-of-Americans-say-Trump-charges-are-serious Didn't read the not so fine print, pass the 3rd paragraph. ???? As I simply don't care, as long as Biden runs & wins in 2024 .. ... I'm HAPPY ... 1 1 1
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, 2009 said: So, Trump runs for president, they indict him, and half the people think he should stop running. ???? Sad day for democracy. ???? I wonder if those people are democrats, by any chance? Trump will win the Republican's nomination and will face his defense of Putin. 1 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Trump's reaction to the pandemic killed his re-election, not the pandemic itself. A decent president with half a brain would have listened to the experts and acted accordingly. Trump claimed the epidemic would be over by Easter and that injecting bleach would get rid of it. Not to mention numerous other egregious lies and pseudoscience. Not to flog a dead election, but he never said to inject bleach. Read the transcript. He did move quickly to stop air travel from China at the beginning, which was loudly decried as racist by prominent Democrats like Nancy Pelosi. I also remember a certain President declaring, "if you get vaccinated, you won't catch Covid"... 4 2 1
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