1 minute ago, giddyup said:

They have the right, Don't go!

Don't go where?  Outside?

 

I disagree.  People should be able to choose whether they get plashed with water or not.

 

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Can't be simpler than that, even for the mentally challenged.

I realise that this is the perspective you view things from, but you have to be aware that the people you communicate with may see things in a slightly more nuance way.

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

A nice idea, but I can't imagine many Thai people stopping to think about how a foreigner might feel about being pelted with water before doing so.  It would be interesting to see a Thailand where it happened though.  "Maybe we should think about how foreign people feel about things that to us seem fun but to them might feel like assault."  It might make the place a bit boring and less cheerful.

 

An annoying thing to happen, but not a proportionate response from the Turk.

 

Perhaps both Thais and foreigners alike need to be reminded of what will happen in the festival and how different people will feel differently about it.

Thais think everyone sees things the Thai way.

Totally self-absorbed mentality.

..and btw...I don't want to be doused with water either.

These dumdums should learn to respect private spaces.

I'm with the Turko on this one but he went all out ..

 

1 minute ago, VinnieK said:

Thais think everyone sees things the Thai way.

Totally self-absorbed mentality.

..and btw...I don't want to be doused with water either.

These dumdums should learn to respect private spaces.

I'm with the Turko on this one but he went all out ..

 

Another ‘quality’ resident…

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Don't go where?  Outside?

 

I disagree.  People should be able to choose whether they get plashed with water or not.

 

I realise that this is the perspective you view things from, but you have to be aware that the people you communicate with may see things in a slightly more nuance way.

Doesn’t work that way. Some will sense you don’t want to be splashed, others will try to loosen your miserable inhibitions. Best you get out of the kitchen if you cannot stand the heat. 

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Don't go where?  Outside?

 

I disagree.  People should be able to choose whether they get plashed with water or not.

 

I realise that this is the perspective you view things from, but you have to be aware that the people you communicate with may see things in a slightly more nuance way.

What don't you understand about choice? People have the choice to either attend or not. That may involve staying indoors, or not being in Thailand at all.

5 minutes ago, NextG said:

Most people DID NOT splash me. The few who did so, carried it out in a considered way. A spray like rain, aiming for the torso instead of the head… I respect that behaviour and appreciated their consideration. 
Next time, join in. Have fun and lighten your load for a while. 

But you must realise that you aren't the only person in the world, right?  Other people exists and have different experiences.

 

Just because you happened to only experience a light spray of water, doesn't mean that is everyone's experience.

 

What I mean is, someone saying "I don't like Songkran" because when they went out they got a bucket of water thrown over them and they then had to go home and change, is very different from you saying "I actually don't mind it, you should try it, you might have fun" after being lightly sprayed by water.

 

Try to realise that your experience of the world (or Songkran) is not necessarily the same as other people's.

Really brings your blood to a boil. Lock him up and throw away the key.

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What don't you understand about choice? People have the choice to either attend or not. That may involve staying indoors, or not being in Thailand at all.

What you don't understand is not everyone can stay indoors for three days straight, nor should they have to.

 

If your choice is to either stay indoors or leave the country, that isn't realistic, therefore you don't have a choice whether you "attend" or not.

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

But you must realise that you aren't the only person in the world, right?  Other people exists and have different experiences.

 

Just because you happened to only experience a light spray of water, doesn't mean that is everyone's experience.

 

What I mean is, someone saying "I don't like Songkran" because when they went out they got a bucket of water thrown over them and they then had to go home and change, is very different from you saying "I actually don't mind it, you should try it, you might have fun" after being lightly sprayed by water.

 

Try to realise that your experience of the world (or Songkran) is not necessarily the same as other people's.

Erm… it’s Songkran/Wan Lai…. Be prepared. I had a special case for my phone and quick drying clothes. 
Too bad you had a miserable time. You only have yourself to blame. 

I would say Mustafa must have a ....  very bad attitude problem.  Obviously he needs to attend anger management courses at the Bangkok Hilton,   I'm sure he's been enrolled as we speak. 

Just now, BangkokReady said:

What you don't understand is not everyone can stay indoors for three days straight, nor should they have to.

 

If your choice is to either stay indoors or leave the country, that isn't realistic, therefore you don't have a choice whether you "attend" or not.

I live in harmony with nature and the people around me. If you can’t beat them; join them ????

 

 

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1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

What you don't understand is not everyone can stay indoors for three days straight, nor should they have to.

 

If your choice is to either stay indoors or leave the country, that isn't realistic, therefore you don't have a choice whether you "attend" or not.

So what do you suggest, cancel Songkran because a couple of foreigners complained? Cater to the minority, that's the world we live in.

5 minutes ago, NextG said:

Doesn’t work that way. Some will sense you don’t want to be splashed, others will try to loosen your miserable inhibitions. Best you get out of the kitchen if you cannot stand the heat. 

As in my other reply, you don't know how everyone experiences Songkran.

 

You can insult and shame people for not wanting to be soaked with water as they go about their day.  You can lie and pretend that the things people complain about don't happen.  But we know the truth.

 

Your experience is not the experience had by everyone.  The fact that you cannot accept that and instead have to insult people says a lot about you and your attitude to Thailand, Thai people and other foreigners.

1 minute ago, NextG said:

I live in harmony with nature and the people around me.

You clearly don't, as is demonstrated by your attitude.

 

You pretend to live in harmony with Thais, then you lie and insult others when faced with anything negative about them.

 

1 minute ago, NextG said:

If you can’t beat them; join them ????

Or stay indoors then moan about it online, as many Thais do!

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

As in my other reply, you don't know how everyone experiences Songkran.

 

You can insult and shame people for not wanting to be soaked with water as they go about their day.  You can lie and pretend that the things people complain about don't happen.  But we know the truth.

 

Your experience is not the experience had by everyone.  The fact that you cannot accept that and instead have to insult people says a lot about you and your attitude to Thailand, Thai people and other foreigners.

Who cannot accept that? It’s just that no one wants to imitate your apparently miserable stance. It doesn’t mean we don’t accept that people like yourself exist. We accept that you exist; but we are not you. 

What is the significance of photos 2 & 4 please?

Just now, BangkokReady said:

You clearly don't, as is demonstrated by your attitude.

 

You pretend to live in harmony with Thais, then you lie and insult others when faced with anything negative about them.

 

Or stay indoors then moan about it online, as many Thais do!

Attitude towards whom? You? ☺️
You think that I’m not living in harmony with you because I don’t share in your misery? I totally accept that you are miserable. The best way to deal with such a situation is to avoid the miserable person if you cannot cheer them up. 

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

So what do you suggest, cancel Songkran because a couple of foreigners complained? Cater to the minority, that's the world we live in.

Still have the religious festival.  Still have organised water fights.  Stop the people in random places throwing water at people just going about their day who don't want to be soaked.

 

Plenty of Thai people don't like the last part, they're just a lot more quiet about it than foreigners are.

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Still have the religious festival.  Still have organised water fights.  Stop the people in random places throwing water at people just going about their day who don't want to be soaked.

 

Plenty of Thai people don't like the last part, they're just a lot more quiet about it than foreigners are.

There's probably a couple of Brazilians who don't like Mardi Gras either. Can those beautiful ladies please cover their naughty bits.

Edited April 22, 20233 yr by giddyup

3 minutes ago, NextG said:

Who cannot accept that?

You.  You're claiming that Songkran is good based on your personal experience of it and ignoring the fact that other people have completely different experiences to you.

 

3 minutes ago, NextG said:

It’s just that no one wants to imitate your apparently miserable stance.

It has nothing to do with being miserable.  It's about ignoring the truth because you don't like it.

 

3 minutes ago, NextG said:

It doesn’t mean we don’t accept that people like yourself exist. We accept that you exist; but we are not you. 

What does this even mean?  I'm saying that not everyone gets a light spray of water during Songkran, some get a bucket of water over them.

 

This has nothing to do with you not being me.

Just now, BangkokReady said:

You.  You're claiming that Songkran is good based on your personal experience of it and ignoring the fact that other people have completely different experiences to you.

 

It has nothing to do with being miserable.  It's about ignoring the truth because you don't like it.

 

What does this even mean?  I'm saying that not everyone gets a light spray of water during Songkran, some get a bucket of water over them.

 

This has nothing to do with you not being me.

I’m suggesting that you sound like a misery and that I don’t really want to engage with you. It’s obvious that you aren’t really getting that, but I’m trying to be polite about it. 
You can use the same analogy for Songkran. Not everyone can detect the subtle signals that someone doesn’t want to play and you can get splashed. Such is life. Adapt or die. 

27 minutes ago, NextG said:

Most people DID NOT splash me. The few who did so, carried it out in a considered way. A spray like rain, aiming for the torso instead of the head… I respect that behaviour and appreciated their consideration. 
Next time, join in. Have fun and lighten your load for a while. 
 

Been there, done that, got the (wet) t-shirt.

 

But personally somewhere between my eight and ninth Songkran, I found it fun trying to avoid the whole thing. It's their culture and their new year and it's special for them.

 

For me? not so much anymore so this grumpy farang leaves them to it completely by going somewhere else. I have never been to Korea before either.

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

Attitude towards whom? You? ☺️

People who share different experiences of life to you.  By being negative, refusing to accept the possibility of them experiencing life differently to you, by needing to pretend other people are a particular way in order to not have to listen to what they say, is evidence of a negative attitude.

 

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

You think that I’m not living in harmony with you because I don’t share in your misery? I totally accept that you are miserable.

You have no idea whether I am miserable or not.  The fact that you feel the need to label me as miserable, that you need to pretend that I am miserable, in order to engage with what I am saying, shows that you do not live a life of harmony.

 

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

The best way to deal with such a situation is to avoid the miserable person if you cannot cheer them up. 

A better way, is to accept the fact that you might be wrong.

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

There's probably a couple of Brazilians who don't like Mardi Gras either.

Probably, but what does that have to do with anything?

During Songkran you have a very big chance to get doused when you go

outside,most people accept it and plan accordingly.

Good or bad,Songkran is like a three day long rain.

We know that and we do not go out to play water but i used to and it was fun.

Don't complain it is part of living here and it will remain so for awhile i would think.

Just now, BangkokReady said:

Probably, but what does that have to do with anything?

There will always be whingers who live to complain.

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Been there, done that, got the (wet) t-shirt.

 

But personally somewhere between my eight and ninth Songkran, I found it fun trying to avoid the whole thing. It's their culture and their new year and it's special for them.

 

For me? not so much anymore so this grumpy farang leaves them to it completely by going somewhere else. I have never been to Korea before either.

Nothing wrong with that. Do as you please. 

Begs belief that anyone could walk around for two minutes and not notice that water was being sprayed and thrown on any and all...even if you are dumb enough to not even be aware of song kran it you had 1/10 of a brain you might say gee something seems to be happening here and if i don't want to get water thrown on me i better get out of here.  Also it appears walking around with no shirt and just shorts he may have had an idea that he was gonna get wet...it's not like he was all dressed in fine clothes.  Somehow i also suspect if the water was thrown by some cute gals in bikinis he would not try to beat them up. Deport the idiot permanently.

Edited April 22, 20233 yr by pomchop

Don't they have google in Turkey? Don't go to a country if you don't know about traditions. If hundreds of people throw water wouldn't you ask?