webfact Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 The first Arcturus fatality recorded in Thailand. (Representative Image) Dr. Supakit Sirilak, director-general of the medical sciences department in Thailand, claims that an old man there died of the Arcturus form by Nikhil Pandey The COVID-19's new variant, Arcturus, has triggered alarm around the world as it claimed its first victim, Thailand's health officials have announced. According to The Independent, the first death from the Arcturus strain, thought to be around 1.2 times more infectious than the last major sub-variant, was recorded in Thailand yesterday, amid a surge in cases across the globe. "A total of 27 cases of XBB.1.16 had been detected in Thailand as of April 17, and one of these had died," Thai PBS World quoted Dr. Sirilak as saying. "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. Full story: https://www.ndtv.com/feature/thailand-reports-worlds-first-death-from-new-covid-variant-arcturus-3967852 -- © Copyright NDTV 2023-04-22 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 died of or died with clearly this person was compromised making the report pointless how many people die of flu RIP 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, webfact said: "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. The full paragraph from the attached ndtv article: "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. His death, therefore, may not directly reflect the severity of this subvariant but rather its impact on other risk factors," Supakit said. Sort of clarifies it ! 3 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, smedly said: died of or died with clearly this person was compromised making the report pointless how many people die of flu RIP Bit of an old story now. This happened pre 17th of this month. "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. His death, therefore, may not directly reflect the severity of this subvariant but rather its impact on other risk factors," Supakit said. https://www.ndtv.com/feature/thailand-reports-worlds-first-death-from-new-covid-variant-arcturus-3967852 So this old fella was the 1st. Yet to see anything about the 2nd. All a bit of a storm in a teacup. Edited April 22, 2023 by dinsdale 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 why all of a sudden more concern about covid ....could it be that time of the month. what a farce. scare scare scare scare. be so afraid. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: The full paragraph from the attached ndtv article: "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. His death, therefore, may not directly reflect the severity of this subvariant but rather its impact on other risk factors," Supakit said. Sort of clarifies it ! It does yes...'it can kill some people!' 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherwood Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Thailand number ONE!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, jacko45k said: It does yes...'it can kill some people!' Absolutely correct. So far one person has died with, not from XBB.1.16. Due to the infectious nature of Omicron this number is sure to rise but there is no evidence so far to suggest that it will be from XBB.1.16 rather than with XBB.1.16. 55 minutes ago, dinsdale said: "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. His death, therefore, may not directly reflect the severity of this subvariant but rather its impact on other risk factors," Basically there have been no deaths directly attributed to XBB.1.16 as the cause so far. Did XBB.1.16 contribute to the death of the elderly gentalman. Possibly but this has not been explicity stated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritScot Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, smedly said: died of or died with clearly this person was compromised making the report pointless how many people die of flu RIP In the uk on average between 30,000 and 40,000 die from flu every year however the strangest of things happened in 2020/21 Zero deaths from flu!! Now go check UK.GOV website for more eye opening facts... Also in the uk the figures are always adjusted down as those who were terminally ill are removed from the annual figures. Die from not die with. When will this nonsense stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 6 hours ago, stoner said: why all of a sudden more concern about covid ....could it be that time of the month. Or it could more likely be that Thailand's number of COVID hospitalizations more than doubled to an average of 62 PER DAY earlier this month, compared to the week before... And probably will go higher still when last week's latest numbers are soon released. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Referring to the Omicron subvariant XBB.1.16 as "the Covid-19's new variant, Arcturus" is confusing. How did XBB.1.16 get the nickname Arcturus? The nearest thing to an answer I could find is this, from an article in the Times of India: Quote XBB.1.16—which a group of scientists on Twitter nicknamed “Arcturus”—is one of more than 600 Omicron subvariants that are currently circulating. I also found that there is the company Arcturus Therapeutics, Inc. in the USA currently doing clinical trials with a new mRNA Covid-19 vaccine. Were perhaps "scientists" connected with the vaccine research at Arcturus Therapeutics initiating and spreading the nickname Arcturus for XBB.1.16? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 So was it the infection or the underlying symptoms that killed them? Doesnt sound like it was infection that ended their life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chalawaan Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) Here we go again... If this insanity continues, we will all eventually either go mad go broke, or starve trying to dodge Covid. Our Governments should spend the cash and energy to blockade, not sanction, but physically a Navy blockade of CCP until they pay the UN trillions in reparations. Not for causing Covid (tho the jury is still out) but for responding in such a way that made it become a multi-year pandemic. Edited April 22, 2023 by chalawaan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Puccini said: Referring to the Omicron subvariant XBB.1.16 as "the Covid-19's new variant, Arcturus" is confusing. How did XBB.1.16 get the nickname Arcturus? The nearest thing to an answer I could find is this, from an article in the Times of India: I also found that there is the company Arcturus Therapeutics, Inc. in the USA currently doing clinical trials with a new mRNA Covid-19 vaccine. Were perhaps "scientists" connected with the vaccine research at Arcturus Therapeutics initiating and spreading the nickname Arcturus for XBB.1.16? Did you know Xi (a Greek alphabet symbol) was the original name for Omicron? But the wet-wipes at the WHO were scared of hurting Winnie the Flu's feelings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 8 hours ago, webfact said: The COVID-19's new variant, Arcturus, has triggered alarm around the world as it claimed its first victim, Thailand's health officials have announced. Sometimes, I have a problem with the English language. Do I understand correctly that Thai health officials have announced that the death of this man who was infected with the Omicron variant XBB.1.16 has triggered alarm around the world? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Puccini said: Referring to the Omicron subvariant XBB.1.16 as "the Covid-19's new variant, Arcturus" is confusing. Apparently, it's still just a given nickname, not an official name for the variant.... "Now, Honey used the name “Arcturus.” But, remember, that name ain’t official, just like “Kraken” and “Orthus” names of earlier emerging subvariants weren’t official either. It’s just that the continued use of letter and number combos that sound more like Star Wars droids has made it more difficult for the general public to keep track of these different Omicron subvariants. That’s prompted folks on social media to create and use their own unofficial nicknames, to grin and bear it in a way. “Arcturus” is actually a Latinized version of the ancient Greek name Arktouros, which means “Guardian of the Bear,” https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/04/16/xbb116-arcturus-is-new-covid-19-variant-under-monitoring-by-the-who/?sh=4291f5d74224 If you look thru the WHO's documents, you'll still see just XBB.1.15 and XBB.1.16, etc. Edited April 22, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Puccini said: Sometimes, I have a problem with the English language. Do I understand correctly that Thai health officials have announced that the death of this man who was infected with the Omicron variant XBB.1.16 has triggered alarm around the world? The new variant has, not Thailand's reported death. Because the variant is much more contagious than its predecessors, and appears better able to evade protections from prior vaccinations and COVID infections. "Due to its estimated growth advantage and immune escape characteristics, XBB.1.16 may spread globally and contribute to an increase in case incidence. However, at present, there is no early signal of an increase in severity. The initial XBB.1.16 risk assessment is ongoing and is expected to be published in the coming days." https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20230420_weekly_epi_update_139.pdf?sfvrsn=c432eac8_3&download=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puccini Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Apparently, it's still just a given nickname, not an official name for the variant... .... If you look thru the WHO's documents, you'll still see just XBB.1.15 and XBB.1.16, etc. That's what the confusion is all about. The first thing I did when I read the OP was a search of the entire website of the World Health Organisation (WHO) with the word Acturus and I did not get even one result. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 9 hours ago, dinsdale said: Bit of an old story now. This happened pre 17th of this month. "The dead person was an elderly foreigner with underlying health conditions. His death, therefore, may not directly reflect the severity of this subvariant but rather its impact on other risk factors," Supakit said. https://www.ndtv.com/feature/thailand-reports-worlds-first-death-from-new-covid-variant-arcturus-3967852 So this old fella was the 1st. Yet to see anything about the 2nd. All a bit of a storm in a teacup. Quite. I saw this on BBC news a few days ago, thought the forum would be red hot the following morning. Storm in a teacup comes to mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GroveHillWanderer Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, BritScot said: In the uk on average between 30,000 and 40,000 die from flu every year however the strangest of things happened in 2020/21 Zero deaths from flu!! Now go check UK.GOV website for more eye opening facts... That's not true as far as I can tell. According to the UK's Office for National Statistics (ONS): Quote The number of deaths due to flu and pneumonia fell below 20,000 in 2020 for the first time since 1948, before reaching a record low of 16,237 in 2021. This decrease during the coronavirus pandemic could be linked to restrictions that limited social contact. Covid 19 compared to flu as cause of death And, as the same source also pointed out: Quote ... death certificates likely underestimate flu deaths because not all patients are tested for it, and circulating flu causes increases in deaths due to other conditions such as cardiovascular diseases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 11 hours ago, smedly said: died of or died with clearly this person was compromised making the report pointless how many people die of flu RIP Exactly, we all die one day. Panicking can always be done. Apparently they have not yet learned their lesson with the covid period, with a spillover risk of 0.8%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, chalawaan said: Did you know Xi (a Greek alphabet symbol) was the original name for Omicron? But the wet-wipes at the WHO were scared of hurting Winnie the Flu's feelings. That's not quite accurate. If the naming convention had just automatically followed the Greek alphabet in the correct order, the name for the variant should have been Nu. So the WHO was already not following Greek alphabetical order automatically by not calling it Nu and continued not automatically following it by not using Xi either. Nu was not used because it sounded too much like "new" and Xi was not used because it is a common family name and so violated the rule on not using personal names as designations for diseases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Why Arcturus? I think of Arcturus as a space term, and not some disease. Drats I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 A troll post has been removed. Edit: and a few more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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