Bracing for impact: Biden world preps for Hunter Biden fallout

[radiochaser]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

What has this had to do with your false assertion that agents signed on to this?

False assertion?  Because they are retired?

Just because they are former, or retired, does not mean they don't have some clout with what they say.   In some cases, even if they are retired, that does not mean they cannot work occasionally and still have inside knowledge about an issue.  

I myself am a retired GS 13 Step 6, Federal Agent , but I still have the same expertise that I gained from the more than two decades of work with the government as a civilian and several years from working with the military.   And  due to closure of multiple offices of the agency I once worked with, I still work occasionally in my field of expertise, on a contract basis, per case.   Due to that I still have my security clearance needed to access classified computer systems and data. 

Of those 50 guys, they are probably GS 12 grade or above.   So even if retired, the government may still call on them occasionally for their knowledge, support, and expertise. 

Edited May 8, 2023 by radiochaser

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38 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

Just like democrat lawyers too!  It must be true!

And when the issue is about a Democratic lawyer making such statements, then your comment will be relevant, and not, as it is now, entirely reflexive and irrelevant.

Edited May 8, 2023 by placeholder

[placeholder]

21 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

False assertion?  Because they are retired?

Just because they are former, or retired, does not mean they don't have some clout with what they say.   In some cases, even if they are retired, that does not mean they cannot work occasionally and still have inside knowledge about an issue.  

I myself am a retired GS 13 Step 6, Federal Agent , but I still have the same expertise that I gained from the more than two decades of work with the government as a civilian and several years from working with the military.   And  due to closure of multiple offices of the agency I once worked with, I still work occasionally in my field of expertise, on a contract basis, per case.   Due to that I still have my security clearance needed to access classified computer systems and data. 

Of those 50 guys, they are probably GS 12 grade or above.   So even if retired, the government may still call on them occasionally for their knowledge, support, and expertise. 

You missed the point.  Are you an agent for the government now? Neither were they.  So there's nothing inappropriate about them voicing their opinions.

[riclag]

29 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

False assertion?  Because they are retired?

Just because they are former, or retired, does not mean they don't have some clout with what they say.   In some cases, even if they are retired, that does not mean they cannot work occasionally and still have inside knowledge about an issue.  

I myself am a retired GS 13 Step 6, Federal Agent , but I still have the same expertise that I gained from the more than two decades of work with the government as a civilian and several years from working with the military.   And  due to closure of multiple offices of the agency I once worked with, I still work occasionally in my field of expertise, on a contract basis, per case.   Due to that I still have my security clearance needed to access classified computer systems and data. 

Of those 50 guys, they are probably GS 12 grade or above.   So even if retired, the government may still call on them occasionally for their knowledge, support, and expertise. 

Thanks for the statement of expertise.Whats your opinion about the 3 letter agencies ,Whistleblowers coming forward,to expose possible nefarious activities concerning the bidens?

Should Americans be concerned ?

Edited May 8, 2023 by riclag

[radiochaser]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And when the issue is about a Democratic lawyer making such statements, then your comment will be relevant, and not, as it is now, entirely reflexive and irrelevant.

Wait, are you saying that the republican is telling the truth?

[Purdey]

Interesting that no one has released the HB mails to the public. Interesting that the Republicans haven’t launched an official inquiry. Interesting that HB didn’t get a job working for daddy in the White House.

This story has been dragged out to the point that I would be surprised it ever appears in court.

[radiochaser]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thanks for the statement of expertise.Whats your opinion about the 3 letter agencies ,Whistleblowers coming forward,to expose possible nefarious activities concerning the bidens.

Should Americans be concerned ?

My opinion of 3 letter agencies?   I worked for one.  Can you trust me? ????

Seriously, I don't trust the leaders that achieved their position more from political connections than from good work, especially when it comes to the GM (General Manager) jobs.  I think it is at the GS-11 or 12 level and above, the employer must post an announcement for a vacant position, as required by law.   

I know of one case where a guy was told he would be moved into a regional director position, which is a GM position (as is the supervisor of an office within a region).   He became upset and made verbal complaints to higher ups when he saw that the job was advertised, but he was reassured, it doesn't matter, you will get the regional director job.   This guy was known as a brown noser and a back stabber and was not one of the better agents, in regards to his work.   Several agents either transferred to different regions or put in for retirement after he became regional director.   Some of the people that stayed suddenly had bad work reviews when previously they were getting bonuses for good work. 

I haven't thought much about whistleblowers, so don't have any opinion that I am willing to post right at the moment. 

I, myself, am always concerned about the leader of some agencies and was for the last 15 years of my active employment.  I am not unlike many other American citizen's.   

 

[Pink Mist]

A series of bickering posts has been removed.  Please discontinue the argument and stay on Topic or face a time out from posting.

 

The OP is: 

Bracing for impact: Biden world preps for Hunter Biden fallout

[billd766]

17 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

Hunter Biden and the hidden 10%

If it is hidden, yet you know it is 10%, it cannot have been hidden very well.

 

Unless like some posters, you are making it up.

 

That is a simple problem to fix.

 

Prove it.

[vandeventer]

Yes the whole family is sweating the out come. It has taken far too long to be where we are now. So lets hope that justice will be served for all those involved

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Thanks for the statement of expertise.Whats your opinion about the 3 letter agencies ,Whistleblowers coming forward,to expose possible nefarious activities concerning the bidens?

Should Americans be concerned ?

Alleged letters of alleged allegations.

 

No I don’t think Americans should be concerned.

[billd766]

34 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Yes the whole family is sweating the out come. It has taken far too long to be where we are now. So lets hope that justice will be served for all those involved

Nobody in my family here in Thailand or the UK even cares.

 

I do agree with you about justice though. Even if the GOP has nothing, they should be given justice for even bringing the case.

 

As for the Democrats, it is all about Hunter Biden and NOT his father, something you seem to overlook. 

[Trippy]

The Bidens are above the law, the worst thing that might happen to Hunter is probation. 

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7 minutes ago, Trippy said:

The Bidens are above the law, the worst thing that might happen to Hunter is probation. 

I'm sure you wouldn't claim this without some evidence to link to. Please share it with the rest of us.

[Trippy]

41 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I'm sure you wouldn't claim this without some evidence to link to. Please share it with the rest of us.

The evidence is that nothing happens to them no matter what they do. 

Here he talks about getting a prosecutor in Ukraine fired for investigating Hunter:

 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=797504800724150

Edited May 8, 2023 by Trippy

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7 minutes ago, Trippy said:

The evidence is that nothing happens to them no matter what they do. 

Here he talks about getting a prosecutor in Ukraine fired for investigating Hunter:

 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=797504800724150

What you seem not to know is that he was firing that prosecutor to fulfill the plan of the President, the State Department and the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine. Oh, and the EU approved, too. This was not done on his own initiative,

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/may/07/viral-image/fact-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/

[Trippy]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What you seem not to know is that he was firing that prosecutor to fulfill the plan of the President, the State Department and the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine. Oh, and the EU approved, too. This was not done on his own initiative,

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/may/07/viral-image/fact-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/

Yep, it was all just a coincidence. Whatever you say. 

[placeholder]

15 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Yep, it was all just a coincidence. Whatever you say. 

No, I didn't say it was a coincidence. I said exactly the opposite. This was a carefully planned decision that Biden was delegated to pursue. You've got nothing.

[billd766]

42 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Yep, it was all just a coincidence. Whatever you say. 

You will believe whatever you want. The truth as shown many times elsewhere or not.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nobody above the law.

That's the difference between a lot of Biden supporters vs a lot of Trump supporters...

 

Most Biden supporters here take the shared view that IF Hunter Biden (or Joe Biden for that matter) committed any actual crimes and those are proven, then they should be held to account for those under the law. In the case of Hunter Biden, of course, he was never an elected official nor U.S. government employee.

 

Whereas Trump and most of his supporters seem to think that nothing he's never done or ever could do anything that possibly is a crime. And even if it was, Trump seems to think that somehow he's above it all and accountable to no one except himself. Hey, it's only an attempted insurrection incited by a sitting U.S. president.

 

Last I heard, no one's accusing Hunter Biden or Joe Biden of fomenting a violent insurrection against their own country.

 

[khuldude]

A six year investigation of H Biden, covering misdemeanor and felony tax and a firearm felony counts, and still no charges, indictments and the case is still active? Tells you all you need to know. If not for the congressional oversight you would hear nothing of the ever present and growing Biden scandal.

 

Just as Trump said:

“The Biden administration is the most corrupt administration in American history. Hunter Biden is a criminal, and nothing happened to him, nothing happened,” said Trump at a recent rally. “Joe Biden is a criminal and nothing ever seems to happen to him because you know, say what you want, but the Democrats stick together.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/06/bracing-for-impact-biden-world-preps-for-hunter-biden-fallout-00095636

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

51 minutes ago, khuldude said:

Just as Trump said:

“The Biden administration is the most corrupt administration in American history. Hunter Biden is a criminal, and nothing happened to him, nothing happened,” said Trump at a recent rally. “Joe Biden is a criminal and nothing ever seems to happen to him because you know, say what you want, but the Democrats stick together.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/06/bracing-for-impact-biden-world-preps-for-hunter-biden-fallout-00095636

 

Ya, I'm hanging on every word from one of the most prolific liars in American political history. In Trump's case above, he's the darkest pot of criminality that could possibly be imagined, already the subject of multiple documented federal and state criminal investigations. And he's not much better when it comes to credibility:

 

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

"This astonishing jump in falsehoods is the story of Trump’s tumultuous reign. By the end of his term, Trump had accumulated 30,573 untruths during his presidency — averaging about 21 erroneous claims a day.

 

What is especially striking is how the tsunami of untruths kept rising the longer he served as president and became increasingly unmoored from the truth."

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Tug]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Ya, I'm hanging on every word from one of the most prolific liars in American political history. In Trump's case above, he's the darkest pot of criminality that could possibly be imagined, already the subject of multiple documented federal and state criminal investigations. And he's not much better when it comes to credibility:

 

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

"This astonishing jump in falsehoods is the story of Trump’s tumultuous reign. By the end of his term, Trump had accumulated 30,573 untruths during his presidency — averaging about 21 erroneous claims a day.

What is especially striking is how the tsunami of untruths kept rising the longer he served as president and became increasingly unmoored from the truth."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

 

Oh but there’s more!!presiding over a bungled response to a pandemic that killed more Americans than all the wars since our founding the most jobs lost in our history blowing up the debt 25% with nothing to show for it (except for the Uber wealthy) undermining our allies betraying our friends undermining the institutions that have protected us and helped our nation prosper most amazing of all is some misguided people still believe him incredible 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 minutes ago, Tug said:

Oh but there’s more!!presiding over a bungled response to a pandemic that killed more Americans than all the wars since our founding the most jobs lost in our history blowing up the debt 25% with nothing to show for it (except for the Uber wealthy) undermining our allies betraying our friends undermining the institutions that have protected us and helped our nation prosper most amazing of all is some misguided people still believe him incredible 

But but but... there's HUNTER...... ????

 

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55 minutes ago, khuldude said:

A six year investigation of H Biden, covering misdemeanor and felony tax and a firearm felony counts, and still no charges, indictments and the case is still active? Tells you all you need to know. If not for the congressional oversight you would hear nothing of the ever present and growing Biden scandal.

 

Just as Trump said:

“The Biden administration is the most corrupt administration in American history. Hunter Biden is a criminal, and nothing happened to him, nothing happened,” said Trump at a recent rally. “Joe Biden is a criminal and nothing ever seems to happen to him because you know, say what you want, but the Democrats stick together.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/06/bracing-for-impact-biden-world-preps-for-hunter-biden-fallout-00095636

Could you please share with us actual unequivocal evidence that supports your claim of the existence of  "the ever present and growing Biden scandal."

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

In recap:

What we know about the GOP's big, vague claims about Biden "bribery"

What we know: House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Wednesday subpoenaed the FBI for a June 2020 form called an FD-1023, which is used to memorialize interviews with sources and often includes unverified information.

...

"Grassley and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) released a report in September 2020 alleging that Hunter Biden had "cashed in" on his father's name to secure foreign business deals. But the investigation uncovered no evidence of wrongdoing by the future president.

 

The bottom line: Republicans have been searching for a Biden bribery bombshell since 2019. So far, nothing has stuck."

 

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/04/biden-bribery-fbi-subpoena-republicans

 

[candide]

4 hours ago, Trippy said:

The evidence is that nothing happens to them no matter what they do. 

Here he talks about getting a prosecutor in Ukraine fired for investigating Hunter:

 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=797504800724150

You are not up to date. Keep up with 2020 news! 

It has already been investigated by a GOP led Senate committee, and they found nothing, as usual.

 

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Oh but there’s more!!presiding over a bungled response to a pandemic that killed more Americans than all the wars since our founding the most jobs lost in our history blowing up the debt 25% with nothing to show for it (except for the Uber wealthy) undermining our allies betraying our friends undermining the institutions that have protected us and helped our nation prosper most amazing of all is some misguided people still believe him incredible 

Hey, there is no need to talk about Biden like that!  I mean, I am not his greatest fan but surely you exaggerate.  

[Hanaguma]

Somehow, aside from the usual government hand wringing and fear mongering, I can only imagine what would have happened had the Previous Occupant of the White House been in a similar situation. Son with a drug habit, an expensive hooker habit, dated his brother's widow,  impregnated a stripper... I am sure the press would have been sympathetic and not seen any connection whatsoever with the father's administration. 

[candide]

27 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Somehow, aside from the usual government hand wringing and fear mongering, I can only imagine what would have happened had the Previous Occupant of the White House been in a similar situation. Son with a drug habit, an expensive hooker habit, dated his brother's widow,  impregnated a stripper... I am sure the press would have been sympathetic and not seen any connection whatsoever with the father's administration. 

A very significant difference: unlike Trump, Biden did not employ his familly at the WH.