onthedarkside Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 Tucker Carlson is preparing to unleash allies to attack Fox News in an effort to bully the network into letting him work for — or start — a right-wing rival, sources close to him tell Axios. Bryan Freedman, the high-powered Hollywood lawyer Carlson retained for the contract dispute, told Axios: "The idea that anyone is going to silence Tucker and prevent him from speaking to his audience is beyond preposterous." Why it matters: Tucker vs. Fox could reshape the conservative news world. Fox, which has seen its ratings plunge in Carlson's slot since he was let go 13 days ago, wants to sideline him by paying him $20 million a year not to work. READ MORE https://www.axios.com/2023/05/07/fox-news-tucker-carlson 2
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 Sucks when you sign an NDA. And a non-compete. I think both sides are in a MAD situation (FOX has the stronger position as they have more juicy dirt on Carlson than he has on them), so this will be resolved with a settlement where he gets paid over time, and he can't compete for some epriod of time, 18 - 24 months would be my guess. I think this story is just Mr. Freedman flexing for his client. 4 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 Who cares. Let both touch themselves to oblivion. USA will be better without both of them. 6 1 1 1
placeholder Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 A lot of commentators are claiming that Carlson doesn't have a chance of success without Fox's backing because of what happened in the past. But streaming and alternate networks mean the situation is very different now from what it was just a few years ago. It just depends on how long Carlson's contract has to run or if he can sue his way out of it. 1
Popular Post bendejo Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, placeholder said: A lot of commentators are claiming that Carlson doesn't have a chance of success without Fox's backing because of what happened in the past. But streaming and alternate networks mean the situation is very different now from what it was just a few years ago. It just depends on how long Carlson's contract has to run or if he can sue his way out of it. In the time since TC got dumped Megyn Kelly's name has been popping up in the media feeds, coming off just as wacko as in her Fox days. Maybe she's conspiring to re-join Fox? Fox and TC in a feces-slinging match? Bring it on! 3 1
placeholder Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, bendejo said: In the time since TC got dumped Megyn Kelly's name has been popping up in the media feeds, coming off just as wacko as in her Fox days. Maybe she's conspiring to re-join Fox? Fox and TC in a feces-slinging match? Bring it on! Megyn Kelly made the fatal mistake of criticizing Trump publicly and gaining employment from the enemy. Carlson is a lot smarter than that. 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Who cares. Let both touch themselves to oblivion. USA will be better without both of them. I disagree, the USA will be brainwashed without him. He told stuff that CNN certainly wouldn't mention. 2 1 1 3
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Neeranam said: I disagree, the USA will be brainwashed without him. He told stuff that CNN certainly wouldn't mention. Fox paid $787.5 million for lying and misinformation. Those stuffs CNN will not mention. 2 1 1 2 1 1
Pedrogaz Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 America loves a 'persecuted victim' so for my money, Tucker will win this conflict. But $20 a year to sit back and do nothing....that would really tempt me., 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Fox paid $787.5 million for lying and misinformation. Those stuffs CNN will not mention. Lots of truth too, guess you watch CNN lol 1 1 1 3
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Neeranam said: I disagree, the USA will be brainwashed without him. He told stuff that CNN certainly wouldn't mention. He also told stuff privately that was the opposite of what he said on air. 3 2
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Lots of truth too, guess you watch CNN lol So I gathered that you have not stopped watching Fox even after they lose the defamation case for lying and misinformation. No wonder you sound confused. 5 3 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 Freedman is a smart, talented, and vicious lawyer. He will get what Tucker wants done. Hell, even Don Lemon has retained Freedman for the same reason. Might take a while, but you will see The Tucker back in media in some form. Fox is feeling the wrath now of jilted viewers who are going elsewhere, and it isn&t going to improve any time soon. Related news, I was shocked at listening to the ratings for The Daily Show. In the last season with Jon Stewart in 2015, they averaged 1.3 million views. These days with Trevor Noah, they are down to less than 400,000 and doing even worse in the key demographic group. I guess talent DOES matter! 1 1 2
Skallywag Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 3 hours ago, onthedarkside said: "The idea that anyone is going to silence Tucker and prevent him from speaking to his audience is beyond preposterous." Really. He can speak on Facebook or Instagram anytime he likes. He can get a job at another news platform likely.
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Freedman is a smart, talented, and vicious lawyer. He will get what Tucker wants done. Hell, even Don Lemon has retained Freedman for the same reason. Might take a while, but you will see The Tucker back in media in some form. Fox is feeling the wrath now of jilted viewers who are going elsewhere, and it isn&t going to improve any time soon. Related news, I was shocked at listening to the ratings for The Daily Show. In the last season with Jon Stewart in 2015, they averaged 1.3 million views. These days with Trevor Noah, they are down to less than 400,000 and doing even worse in the key demographic group. I guess talent DOES matter! Trevor Noah has been gone from the Daily Show since Dec 9, 2022 3 1
earlinclaifornia Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, placeholder said: Trevor Noah has been gone from the Daily Show since Dec 9, 2022 sad 1 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: So I gathered that you have not stopped watching Fox even after they lose the defamation case for lying and misinformation. No wonder you sound confused. Confused? I don't watch Fox, or CNN. If you can't see they both are totally biased then not much I can help you with 1 1 1 1
earlinclaifornia Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 52 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Freedman is a smart, talented, and vicious lawyer. He will get what Tucker wants done. Hell, even Don Lemon has retained Freedman for the same reason. Might take a while, but you will see The Tucker back in media in some form. Fox is feeling the wrath now of jilted viewers who are going elsewhere, and it isn&t going to improve any time soon. Related news, I was shocked at listening to the ratings for The Daily Show. In the last season with Jon Stewart in 2015, they averaged 1.3 million views. These days with Trevor Noah, they are down to less than 400,000 and doing even worse in the key demographic group. I guess talent DOES matter! So your' still thinking is he will rise again? Even though he has the record of firings so far! PBS Fired CNN Fired MSNBC Fired Fox News Fired Doubtful 1 1
Hanaguma Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: sad Not if you were paying his inflated salary. He was getting $16 million a year to tank the ratings of a once very funny show. Good work if you can get it! 1
Popular Post Berkshire Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 3 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Sucks when you sign an NDA. And a non-compete. I think both sides are in a MAD situation (FOX has the stronger position as they have more juicy dirt on Carlson than he has on them), so this will be resolved with a settlement where he gets paid over time, and he can't compete for some epriod of time, 18 - 24 months would be my guess. I think this story is just Mr. Freedman flexing for his client. Tucker is desperate to get back on the air because he knows that by 2025, no one will remember his name. Yesterday's news, has-been, just a pee stain in the bizarro history of conservative news. But I think you're right, Fox has got him by the gonads. 1 1 3
Hanaguma Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: So your' still thinking is he will rise again? Even though he has the record of firings so far! PBS Fired CNN Fired MSNBC Fired Fox News Fired Doubtful For sure. Seems like he would be better serve to work independently. But he has nearly 7 million Twitter followers and was pulling in north of 3 million viewers a night on Fox. Obviously there is a market for his brand of commentary. Just a matter of time. 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Confused? I don't watch Fox, or CNN. If you can't see they both are totally biased then not much I can help you with I can live with some bias but not preying on viewers vulnerability with lies and misinformation in order to make money. 1 1 2
earlinclaifornia Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Not if you were paying his inflated salary. He was getting $16 million a year to tank the ratings of a once very funny show. Good work if you can get it! Yeah and also his gig at Hosting the 2023 Grammys too was an over payment as well! LOL 1
earlinclaifornia Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: For sure. Seems like he would be better serve to work independently. But he has nearly 7 million Twitter followers and was pulling in north of 3 million viewers a night on Fox. Obviously there is a market for his brand of commentary. Just a matter of time. One per cent of the population is not what I had ever considered as immpressive but you can think it, so it will be true. 1
earlinclaifornia Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: For sure. Seems like he would be better serve to work independently. But he has nearly 7 million Twitter followers and was pulling in north of 3 million viewers a night on Fox. Obviously there is a market for his brand of commentary. Just a matter of time. His followers are not going anywhere is the truth. But thats actually their problem and not anybody elses Some of us are ecstatic his career is over in MSM 1
Popular Post Lacessit Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: I disagree, the USA will be brainwashed without him. He told stuff that CNN certainly wouldn't mention. Here's me thinking Americans were brainwashed by him. 1 2
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: For sure. Seems like he would be better serve to work independently. But he has nearly 7 million Twitter followers and was pulling in north of 3 million viewers a night on Fox. Obviously there is a market for his brand of commentary. Just a matter of time. O’Reilly drew in more viewerships at his own peak and was the number one cable show for a long while and he is practically forgotten. Twitter podcast is losing its edge and advertising revenues. It’s hard to sustain interest of listeners. If that is Tucker’s plan, it is a losing proposition. No looking good for Tucker. Fox was his golden goose and he f it up. 2 1
Hanaguma Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: One per cent of the population is not what I had ever considered as immpressive but you can think it, so it will be true. Actually, it IS impressive if you know anything about tv ratings and audience share. Comparable shows in the same time slot were drawing less than half of Tucker's numbers. You may not like what he says, I get that. But he does have undeniable drawing power. THAT is why so many people here disparage him and pay attention- they are afraid of his reach in the media and hope to silence him. 1
Hanaguma Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, Eric Loh said: O’Reilly drew in more viewerships at his own peak and was the number one cable show for a long while and he is practically forgotten. Twitter podcast is losing its edge and advertising revenues. It’s hard to sustain interest of listeners. If that is Tucker’s plan, it is a losing proposition. No looking good for Tucker. Fox was his golden goose and he f it up. Bill O was older when he was dropped. He was also embroiled in a very easy to understand scandal (sexual harrassment). A lot of his viewers rightly were disgusted by his behavior and could see the reason he needed to go. Not so here. Fox is really dropping the ball by the drip drip drip of innuendo and leaks without coming out and saying exactly their reason for cancelling Tucker. Bill's time was also long before the power of podcasts, independent media, etc. 1
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