Popular Post SpanishExpat Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 One of the clear downsides here in Thailand. The government orders something = no one questions it (at least publicly) the damage which has been done to a whole generation of kids is just disgusting! most countries have admitted their faults in dealing with covid in the past, yet Thailand continues stubborn like always. praying that FF will win those elections as they have quite a few decent guys in there with the ability to make rational decisions. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sunderland Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 The news is a constant parody of .... the news. I recently returned from a month in Europe. Life in Thailand continues to feel like living in a surreal dream. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, dinsdale said: 10's of thousand packed into small areas with no masks during Songkran didn't do much.....Get the picture In the open air, not in a room, get the picture........? But, no, you will never get the picture, you have an agenda........ 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, RefinedGentleman said: Neither my post, nor the article that this thread is about, mention anything about masks. Get a grip. Answer the question, or are you stumped....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugs08 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, superal said: So why is it that the likes of the UK NHS are sending out messages to get the latest vaccine booster ? Answer is because covid 19 is still lurking in the background and another pandemic is to be avoided , no chances taken . Prevention is better than cure . The NHS is sending out messages? Which message did you receive - one for over 75? or 5 and under with a weakened immune system? You may be offered a seasonal booster if you: are aged 75 or over (you need to have turned 75 on or before 30 June 2023) live in a care home for older adults are aged 5 or over and have a weakened immune system https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/covid-19-vaccination/getting-a-booster-dose-of-the-covid-19-vaccine/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sunderland Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: No, they didn't: "This virus is here to stay. It is still killing, and it’s still changing. The risk remains of new variants emerging that cause new surges in cases and deaths. The worst thing any country could do now is to use this news as a reason to let down its guard, to dismantle the systems it has built, or to send the message to its people that COVID-19 is nothing to worry about." WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing – 5 May 2023 https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing---5-may-2023 What WHO did do is declare a formal end to their "COVID public health emergency" declaration they made several years ago. WHO ... haha. What a laughing stock they have been. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, superal said: So why is it that the likes of the UK NHS are sending out messages to get the latest vaccine booster ? Answer is because covid 19 is still lurking in the background and another pandemic is to be avoided , no chances taken . Prevention is better than cure . Boosters for who? Children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPRFC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just a couple of days after WHO declared Covid as history ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, hotchilli said: 10 + kids played all day everyday together around my area all summer break, no masks no worries from the government. Songkran go enjoy yourselves was the word from above, no restrictions. Last week a nice long weekend to go travel together as families do back to school must protect themselves... Get the picture? 40 kids from all over town, mixing wiv loads of people, all come together in one room, every day, not in the open air........................Get the picture..... (Doubt it)..................???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsreasonable Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 It is so they can access rules established during pandemic and lockdown when the election doesn't work out well. It will be used as an excuse and thats why they said only schools. This way it will have little economic impact, if it were real danger applying measures to one place has little to no effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Even an ill fitting mask helps reduce the risk of the wearer spreading COVID compared to the same person wearing no mask. But, both I and the public health agencies recommend people wear the best fitting mask they are comfortable with, especially when in indoors, crowded settings and those with poor ventilation. Agree that a proper fitting mask , not a medical / dust mask , will help to stop the spread of the virus . However the majority of masks being worn are days , if not weeks old , ill fitting or sat on the chin of the wearer , have gaps on the cheeks . It really is a farce . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, QPRFC said: Just a couple of days after WHO declared Covid as history ???? No, once again, they didn't: "This virus is here to stay. It is still killing, and it’s still changing. The risk remains of new variants emerging that cause new surges in cases and deaths. The worst thing any country could do now is to use this news as a reason to let down its guard, to dismantle the systems it has built, or to send the message to its people that COVID-19 is nothing to worry about." WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing – 5 May 2023 https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media- Edited May 9, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, transam said: In the open air, not in a room, get the picture........? But, no, you will never get the picture, you have an agenda........ Not much open air mate when thousands of people are shoulder to shoulder breathing and spitting in each others faces and parties going on all over Thailand with pretty much everyone not wearing masks. Reality is there was a small bump after Songkran. That was it and this is at the time of a new sub-variant. Seems like some people just can't move on. The risk level is very, very, very low for the majority. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RefinedGentleman Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, transam said: Answer the question, or are you stumped....? No point in answering an irrelevant question. The article mentions nothing about masks and I posted nothing about masks. What's your favorite color? Have you ever been to Italy? Do you like sushi? Why aren't you answering my questions?! Are you stumped? ???? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, superal said: Agree that a proper fitting mask , not a medical / dust mask , will help to stop the spread of the virus . However the majority of masks being worn are days , if not weeks old , ill fitting or sat on the chin of the wearer , have gaps on the cheeks . It really is a farce . Research has shown that even so-called medical and drug store masks, if covering the mouth and nose, do a decent job of reducing the chances the wearer can spread COVID... Wearing a mask on the chin, of course, is useless. Better masks like the N95 types do a better job of both preventing the wearer from spreading the virus, AND in significantly reducing the chance the wearer will become infected. Edited May 9, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, superal said: The focus should be on supplying the latest vaccine boosters and not just school kids and relying on such protection as ill fitting masks etc Vaccination from what? For those at risk maybe but for the great majority no need. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, ericdiam said: Its now just like a flu. No, it's not. And it never has been. Stats from the U.S.: "Over the past 12 years, the flu’s estimated annual death toll has been as low as 12,000, but never higher than 61,000—just an eighth of COVID’s death toll in the first year of the pandemic. Since the earliest days of the pandemic, weekly COVID deaths have been at least 15 times that of weekly flu deaths—and sometimes as much as 811 times." https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/27/why-covid-isnt-like-the-flu-death-toll-leading-cause-death-omicron-shot-booster-vaccine/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: No, it's not. And it never has been. Stats from the U.S.: "Over the past 12 years, the flu’s estimated annual death toll has been as low as 12,000, but never higher than 61,000—just an eighth of COVID’s death toll in the first year of the pandemic. Since the earliest days of the pandemic, weekly COVID deaths have been at least 15 times that of weekly flu deaths—and sometimes as much as 811 times." https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/27/why-covid-isnt-like-the-flu-death-toll-leading-cause-death-omicron-shot-booster-vaccine/ OK - but how does the comparison look in 2023 ??? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: OK - but how does the comparison look in 2023 ??? Think you're gonna have to wait a bit before the numbers come in on that one... But suffice to say...based on US statistics up thru last fall cited above which included an Omicron period, COVID since the start of the pandemic has always caused more deaths than the flu.... Also, here is the CDC's official causes of deaths chart for all of 2022, just released lately. And the category "chronic lower respiratory diseases" -- which includes more than just the flu -- was well below COVID, ranked as the 4th leading cause of death for 2022. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrasmussen Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Research has shown that even so-called medical and drug store masks, if covering the mouth and nose, do a decent job of reducing the chances the wearer can spread COVID... Wearing a mask on the chin, of course, is useless. Better masks like the N95 types do a better job of both preventing the wearer from spreading the virus, AND in significantly reducing the chance the wearer will become infected. That was relevant during the pandemic. All it will accomplish now is possibly reducing an already minuscule risk slightly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, nrasmussen said: That was relevant during the pandemic. All it will accomplish now is possibly reducing an already minuscule risk slightly. I wouldn't call the current rate of 1,699 new COVID hospitalizations per week in Thailand as "miniscule." Especially if it was your family member ending up in the hospital because others around them didn't take reasonable precautions. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Graph removed due to no source link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, RefinedGentleman said: No point in answering an irrelevant question. The article mentions nothing about masks and I posted nothing about masks. What's your favorite color? Have you ever been to Italy? Do you like sushi? Why aren't you answering my questions?! Are you stumped? ???? If you can't answer it, that's OK, I understand.................???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, onthedarkside said: Graph removed due to no source link Forgot. Here it is again. Comment was "It doesn't take a genius to see the trend." https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/weekly-covid-deaths?tab=chart&country=~THA Edited May 9, 2023 by dinsdale 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJ2U Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 Off course the kids rarely wear the masks. Impossible at that age. Just wash your hands regularly but masks aren't of much use with the little ones, especially in this heat. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, dinsdale said: Forgot. Here it is again. Comment was "It doesn't take a genius to see the trend." https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/weekly-covid-deaths?tab=chart&country=~THA Yes, Covid is still killing people, something you seem to dismiss..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugs08 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MrJ2U said: Off course the kids rarely wear the masks. Impossible at that age. Just wash your hands regularly but masks aren't of much use with the little ones, especially in this heat. Dont go OTT though here - Scientists raise concerns about popular COVID disinfectants https://phys.org/news/2023-05-scientists-popular-covid-disinfectants.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I wouldn't call the current rate of 1,699 new COVID hospitalizations per week in Thailand as "miniscule." Especially if it was your family member ending up in the hospital because others around them didn't take reasonable precautions. Once again and I keep having to say once again are these people who have been hospitalised from Covid as the primary condition or with Covid found during the screening process? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Once again and I keep having to say once again are these people who have been hospitalised from Covid as the primary condition or with Covid found during the screening process? I thought you, of all people, would know, after all, you are the one telling folk not to take precautions........Hypocrite or what....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilligan In Drag Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, transam said: Oh, no they haven't.............. Oh yes they have: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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