webfact Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 By Thai Newsroom Reporters IN A POSSIBLE TWIST of power play, the Palang Pracharath might dissolve their military-installed party with all 41 Palang Pracharath MPs set to join the Pheu Thai to make it the largest party and core of a coalition government in place of the Move Forward, partisan sources said today (May 22). If Move Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat has eventually failed to secure yea votes from more than half the combined total of 500 MPs and 250 senators or at least 376 votes to become prime minister after the May 14 general election, the Palang Pracharath headed by Prawit Wongsuwan might probably dissolve their own party sooner than later, sending those MPs skipping over to the Pheu Thai under de facto party boss Thaksin Shinawatra, according to the partisan sources who only spoke on condition of anonymity. With an addition of 41 MPs from a dissolved Palang Pracharath, the Pheu Thai which currently has 141 MPs will have a total of 182 MPs, thus immediately becoming the largest party and core of a new coalition government, given the possibility of a Move Forward fiasco to make Pita the country’s 30th prime minister. Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/05/23/palang-pracharath-might-be-dissolved-to-make-pheu-thai-new-core-of-coalition-govt/ -- © Copyright THAI NEWSROOM 2023-05-23 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 1 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there? I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly? Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy. 5 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 What would be the point of it? The second strongest with them as coalition partner could do exactly the same as if they are 1 party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand. 11 1 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, bamnutsak said: Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there? I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly? Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy. before (long time ago) it was possible, but I thought they have changed that long ago....but I might be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, robblok said: Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand. In the past he bought complete parties and included them into his party...so nothing new here. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, h90 said: In the past he bought complete parties and included them into his party...so nothing new here. Good point the guy is as bad as the milletary parties, im sure if the voters had heard of this before the PTP would have been even smaller. First claiming not to work with military parties and then including them in an around way in his party. What a country. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 PTP has responded in Thai on Twitter saying that while they might absorb these MPs they will still defer to MVF as leading the coalition, because MVF did get the most MPs, and by circumventing protocol they would suffer in the next election. 7 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, robblok said: Good point the guy is as bad as the milletary parties, im sure if the voters had heard of this before the PTP would have been even smaller. First claiming not to work with military parties and then including them in an around way in his party. What a country. Ah we have the same in Europe....an election and "we'll never work with the right wing party" and 2 days later they announce a coalition.... And I guess not even the strongest Thaksin supporters claim that he has integrity....His up country voters are OK with it. It angers only a small Twitter bubble who mostly vote for MF anyway. If he can form a government it is complete forgotten in 2 month....There will be every week another great media hype from Thaksin..he is a professional in marketing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, bamnutsak said: PTP has responded in Thai on Twitter saying that while they might absorb these MPs they will still defer to MVF as leading the coalition, because MVF did get the most MPs, and by circumventing protocol they would suffer in the next election. Yes but I am sure they are ready to jump in and help in case MF can't form a government......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickleberry Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 "Might probably dissolve" This makes no sense at all. 'Might' means there is a 'chance' - slim, but nonetheless, it might happen. 'Probably' means 'very likely' or 'almost certain'. Which is it? Are we talking about unsubstantiated rumors, or have there been confirmed backroom chats between the two parties? The article is not clear at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, h90 said: What would be the point of it? The second strongest with them as coalition partner could do exactly the same as if they are 1 party. But Prawit would be out of a job & Thaksin wouldn't be so well received ..................LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: But Prawit would be out of a job & Thaksin wouldn't be so well received ..................LOL It's a deal that would allow Pheu Thai to keep their word that they won't team up with the generals and also make a coalition that's more acceptable to the senate. 14 minutes ago, Brickleberry said: Which is it? Are we talking about unsubstantiated rumors, or have there been confirmed backroom chats between the two parties? The article is not clear at all. You're not going to get 'confirmed' backroom chats. Also not so much good commentary from English-language media. A lot of talk about Pheu Thai from Thai political commentators though and some senators have said they would deal with the PT leadership but not Pita. It's difficult for PT to make any moves and not get punished at the next election so they have to tread carefully. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Brickleberry said: Are we talking about unsubstantiated rumors, or have there been confirmed backroom chats between the two parties? I think we should all prepare for a barrage of unsubstantiated rumors, and confirmed/unconfirmed backroom chats for the next few months. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Really doubt that PTP will accept all the MPs from PPRP if dissolved. Some of the MPs were from the PDRC and will be a betrayal to their supporters if they are allowed in. Others are practically ex-TRT politicians who switch to PPRP for money and power and will have no problem going back to their roots. PTP will also unlikely to step ahead and made their intention known as it will backfire on their popularity. They have also said that in the media. But the bottomline is that the military backed parties are done and the 3P involvement in politics are over and good riddance to that. Either MFP and PTP and their coalition partners gets into power, it is a win for democracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Really doubt that PTP will accept all the MPs from PPRP if dissolved. Some of the MPs were from the PDRC and will be a betrayal to their supporters if they are allowed in. Others are practically ex-TRT politicians who switch to PPRP for money and power and will have no problem going back to their roots. PTP will also unlikely to step ahead and made their intention known as it will backfire on their popularity. They have also said that in the media. But the bottomline is that the military backed parties are done and the 3P involvement in politics are over and good riddance to that. Either MFP and PTP and their coalition partners gets into power, it is a win for democracy. You do mean Democracy Thai Style ...........LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, bamnutsak said: PTP has responded in Thai on Twitter saying that while they might absorb these MPs they will still defer to MVF as leading the coalition, because MVF did get the most MPs, and by circumventing protocol they would suffer in the next election. For how long though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: You do mean Democracy Thai Style ...........LOL Universal democratic principle to have elected representatives. Many forms do exist in every country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said: It's a deal that would allow Pheu Thai to keep their word that they won't team up with the generals and also make a coalition that's more acceptable to the senate. If the deal goes through, the senate can go fishing, since there will be no need for their votes, as they can form a coalition with a majority of seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, BenStark said: If the deal goes through, the senate can go fishing, since there will be no need for their votes, as they can form a coalition with a majority of seats It wouldn't be a coalition that included Move Forward though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said: It wouldn't be a coalition that included Move Forward though. How would that coalition be? Without the MFP, there will not be any majority in the lower house. In fact it will be a fractured house in disarray with none having majority. You think PTP has not done the scenario planning? It's practically a disaster for PTP on so many fronts to not include MFP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there? I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly? Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy. And this comes at a time when the paymaster (i'm not involved in politics any more) has beome quite vocal. Perhaps he's trying to build a scenario whereby the ruling party can get him into Thailand and all forgivven / all charges convictions etc., cancelled??? Edited May 23, 2023 by scorecard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Universal democratic principle to have elected representatives. Many forms do exist in every country. Agreed, but should not include sitting tenants so to speak placed by the military. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 And that should be allowed??? They dissolve and renew with the goal to rule, without one vote as the new party was never in the elections??? Strange way of action in a so called democracy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, robblok said: Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand. Look at you. Any tidbit of idle gossip concerning Thaksin and you take it at face value without question. PT have issued a statement that they are 100% supporting MF as the lead party in the coalition and are making zero attempt to undermine them. Well done Robblok for allowing your Thaksin obsession to supersede rationality. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, h90 said: before (long time ago) it was possible, but I thought they have changed that long ago....but I might be wrong. Wrong again. Happens all the time. Cobras. In Thai political terms, a cobra is an MP of one party who defects to another for money or other incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, h90 said: In the past he bought complete parties and included them into his party...so nothing new here. Ooh… A Thaksin circle jerk. Enjoy yourselves boys 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingstonkid Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, robblok said: Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand. Any coalition or joining with the military either overtly of not would be the end of the PT. There is no way Thaksin comes back legally. The other side of the coin is that the PT becomes just another political party that will sleep with and play with anyone in the military that they are a prostitute for power not for the people. The next election would be the last and the PT which already got hurt by MFP would become the Dem party with a few seats but no power. It would also show that the military will kiss and play with anyone to keep their nose int he tent and keep some form of control. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, bamnutsak said: Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there? I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly? Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy. Isn't that what Uncle Tu did? Has tradition here - thwarting the will of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Look at you. Any tidbit of idle gossip concerning Thaksin and you take it at face value without question. PT have issued a statement that they are 100% supporting MF as the lead party in the coalition and are making zero attempt to undermine them. Well done Robblok for allowing your Thaksin obsession to supersede rationality. While I agree with what you are saying the one thing I have learnt here is never say it would not happen. Thaksin wants back home without free and clear of charges. The military camel wants to keep its nose in the tent and keep some control. ALSO REMEMBER T I T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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