Palang Pracharath Might Be Dissolved To Make Pheu Thai New Core Of Coalition Govt

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By Thai Newsroom Reporters

 

IN A POSSIBLE TWIST of power play, the Palang Pracharath might dissolve their military-installed party with all 41 Palang Pracharath MPs set to join the Pheu Thai to make it the largest party and core of a coalition government in place of the Move Forward, partisan sources said today (May 22).

 

If Move Forward leader Pita Limjaroenrat has eventually failed to secure yea votes from more than half the combined total of 500 MPs and 250 senators or at least 376 votes to become prime minister after the May 14 general election, the Palang Pracharath headed by Prawit Wongsuwan might probably dissolve their own party sooner than later, sending those MPs skipping over to the Pheu Thai under de facto party boss Thaksin Shinawatra, according to the partisan sources who only spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

With an addition of 41 MPs from a dissolved Palang Pracharath, the Pheu Thai which currently has 141 MPs will have a total of 182 MPs, thus immediately becoming the largest party and core of a new coalition government, given the possibility of a Move Forward fiasco to make Pita the country’s 30th prime minister.

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/05/23/palang-pracharath-might-be-dissolved-to-make-pheu-thai-new-core-of-coalition-govt/

 

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[bamnutsak]

Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there?

 

I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly?

 

Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy.

[h90]

What would be the point of it? The second strongest with them as coalition partner could do exactly the same as if they are 1 party.

[robblok]

Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand.

[h90]

4 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there?

 

I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly?

 

Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy.

before (long time ago) it was possible, but I thought they have changed that long ago....but I might be wrong.

[h90]

Just now, robblok said:

Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand.

In the past he bought complete parties and included them into his party...so nothing new here.

[robblok]

1 minute ago, h90 said:

In the past he bought complete parties and included them into his party...so nothing new here.

Good point the guy is as bad as the milletary parties, im sure if the voters had heard of this before the PTP would have been even smaller. First claiming not to work with military parties and then including them in an around way in his party. What a country.

[bamnutsak]

PTP has responded in Thai on Twitter saying that while they might absorb these MPs they will still defer to MVF as leading the coalition, because MVF did get the most MPs, and by circumventing protocol they would suffer in the next election.

 

 

[h90]

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Good point the guy is as bad as the milletary parties, im sure if the voters had heard of this before the PTP would have been even smaller. First claiming not to work with military parties and then including them in an around way in his party. What a country.

Ah we have the same in Europe....an election and "we'll never work with the right wing party" and 2 days later they announce a coalition....
And I guess not even the strongest Thaksin supporters claim that he has integrity....His up country voters are OK with it. It angers only a small Twitter bubble who mostly vote for MF anyway. If he can form a government it is complete forgotten in 2 month....There will be every week another great media hype from Thaksin..he is a professional in marketing.

[h90]

3 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

PTP has responded in Thai on Twitter saying that while they might absorb these MPs they will still defer to MVF as leading the coalition, because MVF did get the most MPs, and by circumventing protocol they would suffer in the next election.

 

 

Yes but I am sure they are ready to jump in and help in case MF can't form a government......????
 

[Brickleberry]

"Might probably dissolve"

 

This makes no sense at all. 'Might' means there is a 'chance' - slim, but nonetheless, it might happen. 'Probably' means 'very likely' or 'almost certain'. 

 

Which is it? Are we talking about unsubstantiated rumors, or have there been confirmed backroom chats between the two parties? The article is not clear at all.

[Geoffggi]

28 minutes ago, h90 said:

What would be the point of it? The second strongest with them as coalition partner could do exactly the same as if they are 1 party.

But Prawit would be out of a job & Thaksin wouldn't be so well received ..................LOL

[KhaoNiaw]

6 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

But Prawit would be out of a job & Thaksin wouldn't be so well received ..................LOL

It's a deal that would allow Pheu Thai to keep their word that they won't team up with the generals and also make a coalition that's more acceptable to the senate. 

 

14 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

Which is it? Are we talking about unsubstantiated rumors, or have there been confirmed backroom chats between the two parties? The article is not clear at all.

You're not going to get 'confirmed' backroom chats. Also not so much good commentary from English-language media. A lot of talk about Pheu Thai from Thai political commentators though and some senators have said they would deal with the PT leadership but not Pita. It's difficult for PT to make any moves and not get punished at the next election so they have to tread carefully. 

[bamnutsak]

23 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

Are we talking about unsubstantiated rumors, or have there been confirmed backroom chats between the two parties?

I think we should all prepare for a barrage of unsubstantiated rumors, and confirmed/unconfirmed backroom chats for the next few months.

 

 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

Really doubt that PTP will accept all the MPs from PPRP if dissolved. Some of the MPs were from the PDRC and will be a betrayal to their supporters if they are allowed in. Others are practically ex-TRT politicians who switch to PPRP for money and power and will have no problem going back to their roots. PTP will also unlikely to step ahead and made their intention known as it will backfire on their popularity. They have also said that in the media. But the bottomline is that the military backed parties are done and the 3P involvement in politics are over and good riddance to that. Either MFP and PTP and their coalition partners gets into power, it is a win for democracy. 

[Geoffggi]

9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Really doubt that PTP will accept all the MPs from PPRP if dissolved. Some of the MPs were from the PDRC and will be a betrayal to their supporters if they are allowed in. Others are practically ex-TRT politicians who switch to PPRP for money and power and will have no problem going back to their roots. PTP will also unlikely to step ahead and made their intention known as it will backfire on their popularity. They have also said that in the media. But the bottomline is that the military backed parties are done and the 3P involvement in politics are over and good riddance to that. Either MFP and PTP and their coalition partners gets into power, it is a win for democracy. 

You do mean Democracy Thai Style ...........LOL

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

PTP has responded in Thai on Twitter saying that while they might absorb these MPs they will still defer to MVF as leading the coalition, because MVF did get the most MPs, and by circumventing protocol they would suffer in the next election.

 

 

For how long though?

[Eric Loh]

15 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

You do mean Democracy Thai Style ...........LOL

Universal democratic principle to have elected representatives. Many forms do exist in every country. 

[BenStark]

53 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

It's a deal that would allow Pheu Thai to keep their word that they won't team up with the generals and also make a coalition that's more acceptable to the senate. 

If the deal goes through, the senate can go fishing, since there will be no need for their votes, as they can form a coalition with a majority of seats

[KhaoNiaw]

36 minutes ago, BenStark said:

If the deal goes through, the senate can go fishing, since there will be no need for their votes, as they can form a coalition with a majority of seats

It wouldn't be a coalition that included Move Forward though. 

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

It wouldn't be a coalition that included Move Forward though. 

How would that coalition be? Without the MFP, there will not be any majority in the lower house. In fact it will be a fractured house in disarray with none having majority. You think PTP has not done the scenario planning? It's practically a disaster for PTP on so many fronts to not include MFP.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there?

 

I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly?

 

Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy.

And this comes at a time when the paymaster (i'm not involved in politics any more) has beome quite vocal. Perhaps he's trying to build a scenario whereby the ruling party can get him into Thailand and all forgivven / all charges convictions etc., cancelled???

 

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by scorecard

[Geoffggi]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Universal democratic principle to have elected representatives. Many forms do exist in every country. 

Agreed, but should not include sitting tenants so to speak placed by the military.

[ikke1959]

And that should be allowed??? They dissolve and renew with the goal to rule, without one vote as the new party was never in the elections??? Strange way of action in a so called democracy

[MrMojoRisin]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand.

Look at you.
Any tidbit of idle gossip concerning Thaksin and you take it at face value without question.

PT have issued a statement that they are 100% supporting MF as the lead party in the coalition and are making zero attempt to undermine them.

Well done Robblok for allowing your Thaksin obsession to supersede rationality. 

[MrMojoRisin]

3 hours ago, h90 said:

before (long time ago) it was possible, but I thought they have changed that long ago....but I might be wrong.

Wrong again.

Happens all the time.

Cobras.

 

In Thai political terms, a cobra is an MP of one party who defects to another for money or other incentives. 

[MrMojoRisin]

3 hours ago, h90 said:

In the past he bought complete parties and included them into his party...so nothing new here.

Ooh…

A Thaksin circle jerk.

Enjoy yourselves boys

[kingstonkid]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Why am i not surprised with the dirty tricks of Thaksin. I mean the guy wants to come back at any cost. So this is a solution for him. He is betraying his voters though but im sure he does not care. I mean its just working together with the army but hiding it. Well done Thaksin betraying your voters and having just 1 ideal to rule and return to Thailand.

Any coalition or joining with the military either overtly of not would be the end of the PT.  There is no way Thaksin comes back legally.

 

The other side of the coin is that the PT becomes just another political party that will sleep with and play with anyone in the military that they are a prostitute for power not for the people.

 

The next election would be the last and the PT which already got hurt by MFP would become the Dem party with a few seats but no power.

 

It would also show that the military will kiss and play with anyone to keep their nose int he tent and keep some form of control.

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Sorry but there's no way the EC allows for changing party affiliation after an election, is there?

 

I can see the PPP MPs choosing to join a coalition (or not), but changing affiliation on the fly?

 

Allowing one man to essentailly change the votes of millions seems, well, stench-worthy.

Isn't that what Uncle Tu did? Has tradition here - thwarting the will of the people.

[kingstonkid]

7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Look at you.
Any tidbit of idle gossip concerning Thaksin and you take it at face value without question.

PT have issued a statement that they are 100% supporting MF as the lead party in the coalition and are making zero attempt to undermine them.

Well done Robblok for allowing your Thaksin obsession to supersede rationality. 

While I agree with what you are saying the one thing I have learnt here is never say it would not happen.  

 

Thaksin wants back home without free and clear of charges.

The military camel wants to keep its nose in the tent and keep some control.

 

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