15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

When the GOP steps away from Trump, MAGA and authoritarianism, it’s going to need to go back to traditional Republican policies and values.

 

Liz Cheney has demonstrated those values remain.

 

It’s now up to Republican voters to decide how long they want to allow their party to continue on the path to self destruction before bring the party back to where it belongs.

It doesn't have to go back to anything. 

Parties change.

Parties go the way of the Whigs and the Know-Nothings 

Maybe it will stay the American fascist party indefinitely. 

There is nothing in the constitution about a two party system or what parties should be.

 

 

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

She stood up to trump because she knew he lied he cheated. He tried to steal the election. She’s the only one in the republican party they had in the balls to stand up to him. All the other politicians are afraid of not being reelected, and let’s see Trump when his third or fourth wife was pregnant with his son. He was busy with a small hands filling up the brass is a porn star then he paid $140,000 to make it Go away now that shows a moral character right when he tries to overturn the election with the fake electoral college people I’m calling the government officials in Georgia requesting for him to find 11,400 votes for the lawyers that he assembled to go around to all the courts to overturn it and they lost everyone I believe he didn’t attend the new presidents inaugural because he’s just a baby. He promised his campaign that he would play. Let’s golf what turns out that he played more golf and all the presidents combined but he complained about Obama playing too much cough. he delays all legal processing against him. He admits taking files they shouldn’t have taken and then on national TV. He said he hopes that they don’t sell the debt problem which is really. Millions of Americans in the restaurant will see that we were paying off your lungs, which would the values in the ass why he would want that to happen his reply was im not president right now? We went to college he never read a book just watch TV and paid people to take his test. Even his own sister said not to vote for him and be the worst thing for America. He didn’t want to go into the army to go to Vietnam, so a podiatrist who rented office space from his father, wrote a note for him. What did the podiatrist get in return? His whole office was remodeled, and he never had to pay rent to his father again go figure that one out he’ll go down in history as the worst president ever. 

46 was 45. The 45th worst in the history of the nation. 

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

46 was 45. The 45th worst in the history of the nation. 

Disagree.  Bush 2 & her father started and led the nation into a 20 year downhill war spiral that killed and or displaced millions from there home.  

 

Pretty hard to beat that as worst administration ever.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Disagree.  Bush 2 & her father started and led the nation into a 20 year downhill war spiral that killed and or displaced millions from there home.  

 

Pretty hard to beat that as worst administration ever.

I think a case could be made for that as well. But 44th or 45th worse doesn't really matter, either way it shows a big failure.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Don't get carried away. Her policy positions are pretty horrible. 

If not for Trump she would be considered the worst kind of Republican. Instead she's somehow become the voice of reason. 

2 minutes ago, Paradise Pete said:

If not for Trump she would be considered the worst kind of Republican. Instead she's somehow become the voice of reason. 

Standing up for democracy and against fascism is pretty damned impressive in a republican these days. But you're not wrong, ha ha.

Perhaps she needs to get help from father about how to play the game and not losing, just like old times.

1 hour ago, The Theory said:

Perhaps she needs to get help from father about how to play the game and not losing, just like old times.

That doesn't make any sense.

She well understood that standing up against the republican maga fascists would end her career.

But she willingly took a principled stand.

Nothing to do with her notorious father.

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That doesn't make any sense.

I just give you 3 names. You figure .

Bush, Cheney and Haliberton. 

8 minutes ago, The Theory said:

I just give you 3 names. You figure .

Bush, Cheney and Haliberton. 

Still making no sense.

The topic is Liz Cheney. She is not those other people. 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Still making no sense.

The topic is Liz Cheney. She is not those other people. 

Politician are a big family. IMO both parties are just about the same only their strategy for fooling people is different. More important is they don't work for people. A modern slavery regardless of color. 

 

1 minute ago, The Theory said:

Politician are a big family. IMO both parties are just about the same only their strategy for fooling people is different. More important is they don't work for people. A modern slavery regardless of color. 

 

You're way too cynical even for me.

Sure both parties are under the thumb of corporate interests.

But their ideologies are very different on so many issues.

 

 

23 hours ago, KhunLA said:

She voted 'party lines' as did most rep.

 

She was the second biggest loser in any incumbent's re-election of recent times, proving the 'people' didn't want her to represent them.

 

"Cheney lost the August 16, 2022, Republican primary to pro-Trump candidate Harriet Hageman, with 28.9% of the vote to Hageman's 66.3%. Her margin of defeat was the second-worst for a House incumbent in the last 60 years, behind that of South Carolina Republican Bob Inglis in a 2010 primary runoff."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney

 

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Her fellow republicans didn’t want her to represent them after her participation in Pelosi j6 committee hearings !