90-day Report

[StayinThailand2much]

First 90-day Report (Non-Immigrant Visa) in Bangkok: where, when (number of days possible before/after written date), and what do I need?

[DrJack54]

90 day reports for Bangkok are done at CW.

Can be done in person 14 days prior and 6 days post due date.

 

Can be done via mail also.

At CW they want mail application 14 days prior. 

 

Your first report would be due 90 days from the extension stamp date. 

 

At CW you don't need much.

Basic copies of pp.

Photo page.

Most recent entry stamp.

Copy of non O visa.

TM6 currently not required 

TM47 form.

For first report a TM30, Rental agreement may be required

 

You can make an appointment at CW.

Make sure that you take print out of confirmation email.

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/?page_id=20131 

 

Note: There is a photocopy/print shop etc located lower level (same level as the banks. 

 

Some links and advice in this thread. 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1261009-90-day-reporting/

Edited June 7, 2023 by DrJack54

[StayinThailand2much]

16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

90 day reports for Bangkok are done at CW.

Can be done in person 14 days prior and 6 days post due date.

 

Can be done via mail also.

At CW they want mail application 14 days prior. 

 

Your first report would be due 90 days from the extension stamp date. 

 

At CW you don't need much.

Basic copies of pp.

Photo page.

Most recent entry stamp.

Copy of non O visa.

TM6 currently not required 

TM47 form.

For first report a TM30, Rental agreement may be required

 

You can make an appointment at CW.

Make sure that you take print out of confirmation email.

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/?page_id=20131 

 

Note: There is a photocopy/print shop etc located lower level (same level as the banks. 

 

Some links and advice in this thread. 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1261009-90-day-reporting/

Thank you.

[StayinThailand2much]

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

For first report a TM30 (...) may be required

 

That's gonna be a problem, as my landlady outright refuses to, not only register me, but also, consequently, give me a copy of the (non-existing) registration.

 

Is there a (working) website where I can do this by myself?

 

Or how about doing this at Chaengwattana, mentioning that my landlady refuses to do the registration?

Edited June 7, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Or how about doing this at Chaengwattana, mentioning that my landlady refuses to do the registration?

Don't do that. 

You could check into a hotel for a night checking first that they will provide screenshot of TM30 filing.

Yes messy.

 

This guy might advise @Red Phoenix

[StayinThailand2much]

So, staying in Thailand for 16 months, but checking into a hotel for one night, just before my 90-day report, won't raise eyebrows?

Edited June 7, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[Red Phoenix]

Hi,

Your Visa/extension situation is not fully clear to me.

But in order to get ANY service from an Imm Office, they need to have official evidence of the place that you are staying.  And the form that is used to notify them of your address is the TM-30 (accompanied with or referring to the required documents).

Now if you are a Tourist and want to extend your stay by applying for a 30-day extension, the 'check-in' night before application at a Hotel is an option.  The Hotel/Guesthouse can provide you with a copy of the TM-30 they have to make to notify local Immigration that a foreigner is staying at their premises, and that will be sufficient for local Immigration to provide you with such 30-day extension.  

But obviously that will NOT be accepted when you plan to stay long-term and apply for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa or for a 1-year extension of stay when you have entered Thailand on a Non Imm O or O-A Visa,

In that case the local Imm Office needs to be provided with a TM-30 of the address where you plan to stay semi-permanently and which will become your official address for immigration purposes. 

You mention your landlady so that means that you are renting, and it is indeed possible to register on the IO TM-30 website as TENANT, which will then allow you to issue a TM-30 of yourself staying at the premises. 

I did sent you a PM outlining the process on how to register on that website and subsequently issue that TM-30.

Note that the problem you mention of the landlord/landlady not willing to co-operate is not unique.  There are several possible reasons why he/she might not be willing to issue a TM-30:

#1 - They do not want to spend half a day going with you to the local Imm Office to notify Immigration in person that you are staying at their premises.  Also, when doing that they  risk to be fined by Immigration as they should have notified Imm within 24 hours of your arrival at the premises.

#2 - They are not computer-savvy or are not familiar with the on-line IO TM-30 system and how to register your address on it, and issue a TM-30.

#3 - They do not want to notify Immigration that you are staying at their premises because they incorrectly think that this might result in them having to declare the rental income from you staying there, and be taxed on it. 

 

But as I mentioned higher, even without the co-operation of the landlord/landlady you are able to register yourself on the IO TM-30 website as TENANT.  Besides a copy of your passport ID-page, you only need a copy of the Rental Agreement.  And if your landlord/landlady is willing to provide it, a copy of the house-book and a signed front/back copy of the Thai ID-card of the owner would be helpful, but are not required.  

If I were you I would talk with the landlord/landlady and ask for those additional documents explaining to them that you in order to stay in Thaland need to provide Immigration with a copy of the rental agreement and that you would do this yourself on-line.  But that it would be helpful if they provided you with those additional documents, because otherwise there is the chance that Immigration would contact the landlord/landlady to get hold of them.

Hope this helps and do check your PM for the Guideline document on how to register on the IO TM-30 website and issue your own TM-30.

[StayinThailand2much]

5 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Hi,

Your Visa/extension situation is not fully clear to me (...)

I have a NI "Retirement" extension. My first 90-day report is due soon. My landlady refuses to do the TM30 report. 

 

What can I do to get a suitable TM30 report for my TM47 report?

 

I am willing to use an agent in Bangkok or Pattaya, if the TM30 report can be waived. I understand that I cannot do the TM30 report by myself, as I don't have access to the owner's Blue Book.

[DrJack54]

OP, good advice above from Red. 

 

One suggestion not mentioned is to make appointment at CW for 90 day report.

Have the passport pages I mentioned earlier.

CW is (imo) helpful immigration office and not to fussy about TM47.

Any receipts of rental or even better rental agreement would most likely be acceptable.

 

Worst case ..fine for not having TM30....generally 800b.

 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by DrJack54

[StayinThailand2much]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Worst case ..fine for not having TM30....generally 800b.

You mean, maybe pay 800 baht, but released from showing TM30?

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, StayinThailand2much said:

I have a NI "Retirement" extension. My first 90-day report is due soon. My landlady refuses to do the TM30 report. 

 

What can I do to get a suitable TM30 report for my TM47 report?

 

I am willing to use an agent in Bangkok or Pattaya, if the TM30 report can be waived. I understand that I cannot do the TM30 report by myself, as I don't have access to the owner's Blue Book.

If you already have a 1-year retirement extension, you can only have gotten that one when your address is registered at your local Imm Office that issued the extension. 

So there should be no need to notify Immigration of your address by issuing a TM-30 as they already have it. 

If your official address has been overwritten due to a stay at a Hotel, and you need to issue a new one, you can register your address on the IO TM-30 website and issue a TM-30 as TENANT.  No Blue book required to do that, a copy of your Passport ID-page and the rental agreement suffices to register, which will then allow you to issue the TM-30.

 

[DrJack54]

16 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

You mean, maybe pay 800 baht, but released from showing TM30?

Up to the io.

Could just send you away stating what added docs you need.

Yes messy.

Bit unrelated but I have NEVER done a TM30 in my 10 years here.

For my first ever extension I provided a copy of lease. 

 

It's not quite clear of your circumstances.

Seems that you entered Thailand with a non O.

Not obtained non O at Thai immigration. 

 

Edit: my post is silly.

I won't bother to edit it.

If you entered with a non O you would be applying for 12 month extension.

Not a TM47.

If you obtained your non O in Thailand you would have already provided address.

 

I do not understand your situation. 

Edited June 7, 2023 by DrJack54

[StayinThailand2much]

11 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Up to the io.

Could just send you away stating what added docs you need.

Yes messy.

Bit unrelated but I have NEVER done a TM30 in my 10 years here.

For my first ever extension I provided a copy of lease (...)

Same here. Never for an extension, or visa change. Then again, never did a 90-day report before. That's why I'm asking...

Edited June 7, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[DrJack54]

19 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Same here. Never for an extension, or visa change. Then again, never did a 90-day report before. That's why I'm asking...

What are you talking about.

What is your visa status currently in Thailand? 

Do you have a non O visa based on retirement.

Did you obtain the non O at consulate outside of Thailand or did you enter visa exempt or tourist visa and obtain non O in Thailand.

Either way why would you be doing a 90 day report! 

 

So hypothetical question? 

Edited June 7, 2023 by DrJack54

[StayinThailand2much]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

(...) or did you enter visa exempt or tourist visa and obtain non O in Thailand.

Either way why would you be doing a 90 day report! 

Yes. Because I'm longer than 90 days in Thailand, and there is a little note on paper stapled to my passport 'Do 90-day report until...'

Edited June 7, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Yes. Because I'm longer than 90 days in Thailand, and there is a little note on paper stapled to my passport 'do 90-day report until...'

Read my post.

How can you be more than 90 days in Thailand unless you have applied for 12 month extension from a non O .

How did you last enter Thailand??

[StayinThailand2much]

18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

How can you be more than 90 days in Thailand unless you have applied for 12 month extension from a non O .

Yes. Extension at Pattaya office, now staying in Bangkok.

 

Do I need a TM30 for my TM47, or not?

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Yes. Extension at Pattaya office, now staying in Bangkok.

 

Do I need a TM30 for my TM47, or not?

Still confusing .

So if you obtained a 12 month extension at Jomtien and now living Bangkok you will need to do change of address. TM30 in order to file TM47 at Bangkok. 

 

You state that you obtained extension Pattaya.

Surely you provided TM30 for that extension.

 

You need to do change of address if now living in Bangkok

 

 

[StayinThailand2much]

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

TM30 in order to file TM47 at Bangkok. 

 

As I stated, my landlady in Bangkok outright refuses to do the TM30 report. 

 

And as I don't have the 'Blue Book', I cannot do it by myself.

Edited June 7, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, StayinThailand2much said:

As I stated, my landlady in Bangkok outright refuses to do the TM30 report. 

You choose the wrong rental.

 

Would be first question I would have asked.

 

I have rentals in Bangkok and 2 currently have farang.

My agent provides TM30.

 

Out of this thread. Good luck. 

 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

9 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

As I stated, my landlady in Bangkok outright refuses to do the TM30 report.

And as I don't have the 'Blue Book', I cannot do it by myself.

Your 90-day report is nothing more than a confirmation from your part that you are STILL staying at your official address for immigration purposes. 

You applied for and got the 1-year extension of stay based on your Non Imm O Visa at the Pattaya Imm office.  You then moved to Bangkok but did not notify the Bangkok Imm Office of that move (by providing them with a copy of your current rental contract, which would have allowed them to issue your TM-30).  So you currently cannot get ANY service from the Bangkok Imm Office until you have done the above, as your official address is currently still in Pattaya. 

As mentioned in another thread that you launched you do NOT need the BlueBook when notifying the Bangkok Imm Office that you have moved there. 

You can either go there in person and provide them with a copy of the rental contract, but you will likely be fined for doing that TM-30 notification process late as they will see that your rental agreement dates from earlier.

Alternatively you can use the IO TM-30 website and register your current Bangkok address on it as TENANT, which only requires a copy of the ID-page of your Passport and a copy of your rental agreement.  And then you can issue a TM-30 stating that you are staying at the properties.  Once that has been approved your official address will then be at that Bangkok address, and it would allow you then to do the 90-day report as well as 1-year extensions when they are due.

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by Red Phoenix

[StayinThailand2much]

16 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

As mentioned in another thread that you launched you do NOT need the BlueBook when notifying the Bangkok Imm Office that you have moved there. 

That was about doing the TM30 report online by myself. I checked, and copies of such need to be upoaded by the landlord (or me).

[StayinThailand2much]

16 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Alternatively you can use the IO TM-30 website and register your current Bangkok address on it as TENANT (...)

Do you have a link for that? All links I found did not work.

[Red Phoenix]

8 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

That was about doing the TM30 report online by myself. I checked, and copies of such need to be upoaded by the landlord (or me).

Please do read my posts in response to your query again as well as the PM I did sent you. 

When the landlord registers the address on the IO TM-30 website he needs to upload a copy of the house-book.  When the TENANT (=you who rents the property) registers the address on that IO TM-30 website a copy of the rental agreement suffices. 

 

[Red Phoenix]

12 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Do you have a link for that? All links I found did not work.

It is in the Step-by-step instructions document that was added as attachment in the PM I did sent you earlier.  Please make the effort to actually read what I posted. 

Here is the link to the website > https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/menu.jsp

And here is the link to actually register: https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/FilterNoLogonServlet?nodeId=24&programId=FNHOTELREG

 

[StayinThailand2much]

14 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

It is in the Step-by-step instructions document that was added as attachment in the PM I did sent you earlier.  Please make the effort to actually read what I posted. 

 

Here is the link to the website > https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/menu.jsp

 

And here is the link to actually register: https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/FilterNoLogonServlet?nodeId=24&programId=FNHOTELREG

 

 

 

Thank you.

[aluc]

Hello,

I`m a bit confused about this 90 day report.

Arrived in Thailand on March 22 visa exempt, later I converted it to Non-O based on marriage. I received my Non-O visa on June 6, with issue date on visa May 12 and valid until August 9.

Immigration officer just gave me back passport with visa and few other stamps but didn`t said anything about 90 day report and also I forget to ask about it as well.

Can someone explain me when I have to do my first 90day report?

 

[StayinThailand2much]

14 hours ago, aluc said:

Can someone explain me when I have to do my first 90day report?

 

There is, most probably, a paper slip stapled onto your last passport page which has this information.

[aluc]

No, there is only tm30 receipt stapled on my last passport page.

[daejung]

On 6/7/2023 at 12:56 PM, DrJack54 said:

Your first report would be due 90 days from the extension stamp date. 

Hello, only for first report ?