Loneliness.

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I never felt lonely here.

If I would feel lonely, I could just go out of the building and chat with the motorcycle riders, or some food vendors. Or I could sit in the lobby of my building. I am sure someone would talk to me.

If I would be in a village I could go to the market or a temple. Or in other places maybe I would talk with people on the beach.

 

 

I can feel lonely if Im in a group where we have nothing in common, and especially meeting people with aggressive depressed world view, and who also often are negative to their home country, as well negative to Thailand, and the majority of stupid people around them. Negative to ladies, and an awfully woman view on top of it. Quite often you meet them in bars in Thailand, as well conspiracy right wingers to. Sad to say, there is quite a few I have met riding around in Thailand. 

 

So I guess, If I feel lonely in Thailand, it will be among people, and not only vy myself. 

 

When I first meet people, it need to be a positive energy between us, and not loaded with negativity,

[OneMoreFarang]

19 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Do those foreigners fluent in Thai regularly pass the time of day with total strangers?

My Thai is reasonable. When I ride with a taxi the driver often starts a conversation. If I am in the mood, then maybe we talk for 5 minutes or until the end of the ride. They ask questions about me and my life and I ask them questions about their life.

I remember reading "How to win friends and influence people" decades ago. One advice was: Ask people to tell you about their live stories. Most people are happy to do that. And they will be happy that they had this conversation with them. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

19 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

They deserve more than old crust bread

Bunnies should never eat bread. Bread is bad for them!

Hay is perfect!

 

[scorecard]

18 hours ago, Celsius said:

Lives in Pattaya cesspit surounded by prostitutes and comes here to whine people around him only care about money.

 

Livin' the dream.

'Cesspit', true. Not even remotely like real Thailand.

[Sticky Rice Balls]

can google the stories of the lady that lived in a cave and didnt want to come out

 

and the guy that just did 100 days living underwater--they both seemed to love it

 

takes time but ive crown accustomed to it and feel ok with ..set in my ways and routines

 

keep your mind and body busy..active

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

not always bar girls who just want money

Obviously many bar girls want money. That's their job!

But IMHO some are also happy just to have a friendly conversation - just like ordinary people. 

[Sticky Rice Balls]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

'Cesspit', true. Not even remotely like real Thailand.

i stayed there less than 24 hrs once to see for myself..was more than enough.......pass

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

'Cesspit', true. Not even remotely like real Thailand.

Presumably you've only been to the bar areas?

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

i stayed there less than 24 hrs once to see for myself..was more than enough.......pass

another one who just goes to the bar areas and complains

[Sticky Rice Balls]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

another one who just goes to the bar areas and complains

correct.....im content up north complaining about the bar areas ????

[Sticky Rice Balls]

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Presumably you've only been to the bar areas?

lucky for you there are no grumpy folks down there to ruin your paradise! ????

 

TAT  Patts division approves your comments..fruit basket in on route!

[Gottfrid]

21 hours ago, bogs smith said:

anyone else ever get lonely here or feel they are alone??

 

seems that whenever go outside now people only want money.

the humanity has been completely squeezed out of life in favor of the cash.

 

thats all that matters to these people.

im sure its the same the world over but surely theres better places to live than here that offer a more fulfilling existence, and isnt solely based on a financial transaction?

 

if we have money we are tolerated to give them enough time to squeeze it out of us.

if we are skint then good luck. nobody wants to know you.

 

what a sad, lonely existence..

 

21 hours ago, bogs smith said:

i think you are right.

 

social media too has turned people into 'bots'.

 

there are no real people anymore, just wannabe celebrities.

 

19 hours ago, bogs smith said:

fake smiles and i can do without the constant 'herrrro, welcome',,, again related to the financial transaction point I made.

 

they are only friendly when they are selling you something.

Oh, my God! This is the saddest thing I´ve ever read. Hey, man! Cher up and get a life. There are lot´s of people here, like in the rest of the world that are perfectly ok and live normal without thinking of money all the time.

I don´t know where you got this from, but it sounds like you refer to the entertainment scene. You know, there is a much bigger life outside that narrow thinking.

[save the frogs]

21 hours ago, bogs smith said:

if we have money we are tolerated to give them enough time to squeeze it out of us.

if we are skint then good luck. nobody wants to know you.

sometimes I bring my hairdresser some food when I get a haircut.

you sucker punch 'em when they're not expecting anything. 

small gestures create positive vibes between human beings.

it's not good for everyone to be greedily hanging on to every penny they got. 

amassing more and more for yourself and constantly upgrading our silly iphones.

doesnt mean you need to be giving large amounts of money to greedy undeserving people though. 

 

but ... give a little bit. 

 

 

Edited June 15, 2023 by save the frogs

[scorecard]

18 hours ago, Furioso said:

What the heck, it comes in sharkskin too? 

And maybe crocodile, and heaven forbid, gunja leaves!

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, DogNo1 said:

There is a variety of people here: some kind and friendly and some not.  Two weeks ago, a nurse in Cardiology shouted at me for five minutes straight over what was, unbeknownst to her, merely a misunderstanding.  Yesterday I had a great conversation with a taxi driver about the world political situation on the way back to my hotel.   The trick is not to be discouraged from interacting by your unpleasant experiences.   I try take the good with the bad.  

 

Somebody mentioned joining fellowship groups.  Where are those to be found?

Is this meaning Christian fellowship / bible study groups, etc?

[scorecard]

40 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Presumably you've only been to the bar areas?

I lived in Sth. Pattaya for about 5 years when I worked on the Eastern seaboard. Over 5 years i observed a lot of places/situations etc.

 

I'm not suggesting every farang living in Pattaya should be classified as 'cesspit'. And there are good farangs living in Pattay (good, what does that mean?), but also plenty of farang who I wouldn't allow to come into my house. 

Edited June 15, 2023 by scorecard

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I lived in Sth. Pattaya for about 5 years when I worked on the Eastern seaboard. Over 5 years i observed a lot of places/situations etc.

If you'd got out of the bar scene more often you would have seen better things + better people

[scorecard]

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

If you'd got out of the bar scene more often you would have seen better things + better people

I haven't mentioned bar scene, that's just your assumption, made with no knowledge of me.

Edited June 15, 2023 by scorecard

[StayinThailand2much]

21 hours ago, save the frogs said:

obsession with money everywhere in the world is degrading our lives.

 

Is it me, or did it even get worse after the pandemic?

[save the frogs]

1 minute ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Is it me, or did it even get worse after the pandemic?

yeah, seems to be a lot of desperate people. 

more crime. 

thats why if you can afford it, give a little, 

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I haven't mentioned bar scene, that's just your assumption, made with no knowledge of me.

what else is the "cesspit" you refer to?

[Chongalulu]

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I bought some rabbits, problem gone.

Great company and I can have a cuddle whenever I like in exchange for a crust of bread.

And a convenient snack if you've forgotten to go to the supermarket. ????

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I am not lonely because I am comfortable with my own company.

I like that, because I am the same as you by the looks of things, and I always remember something that my first and only wife (in the UK) shouted at me as we were getting divorced....... "you will end up being a lonely old man", to which I replied, "alone, maybe, but never lonely", and that's one thing she couldn't understand.

 

I more or less had to bring myself up and fend for myself from a very early age, for reasons I won't go into here, so I became very independent and that has stayed with me, and although I am alone I'm not unhappy, and I still have farang friends whom I speak to on a fairly regular basis, and occasionally like to meet up for something to eat and a wander around the nightspots here. Luckily, one friend and his Thai partner own a very lovely restaurant, so that is a reasonably frequent meeting place.

 

In addition I have made friends with various Thai folk here and especially Thai women who own massage shops, as I do like a bona fide massage (lots of old football injuries to contend with) and I do like to give them some business by frequenting them for a manicure or pedicure or even a foot massage. In addition I will often ask what they are intending to eat that evening, and then give them a few hundred baht to be able to buy what they want. Although they like Thai food, they are not averse to large pizza from across the road, which I will happily pay for.

 

I try to make friends with just about everybody with whom I interact, and that includes some of the lovely ladies who work in the supermarket here, who always call out to me when I am wandering around doing my stuff, and give me a big smile and a wave.

 

The only downside I have found is the fact that one particular farang will ask for money by way of a loan to see him through, and I did do this until I put a stop to it, saying that I was not going to be his fallback banker.

 

I am lucky in as much as when I split up with my Thai girlfriend and her 7 yr old daughter, we stayed friends, and indeed I financed them for quite a few years, and I still do for the daughter, whom I have unofficially adopted, and am putting through university, where hopefully she will become a teacher. We are in almost daily contact and I think the world of this beautiful and bright young lady, and she considers me her "real" father.

 

I think there are people in this world like me and Laccessit, and probably many others, who are quite comfortable being on their own, but for others who don't feel the same, then getting out and making new friends and acquaintances has to be a priority.
 

[Chongalulu]

10 minutes ago, scorecard said:

21 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

you'd got out of the bar scene more often you would have seen better things + better people

I haven't mentioned bar scene, that's just your assumption, made with no knowledge of me.

But you're not denying it right....? ????

[Grumpy one]

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I bought some rabbits, problem gone.

Great company and I can have a cuddle whenever I like in exchange for a crust of bread.

A crust of bread for them Rabbit Pie for you  ????

[Chongalulu]

20 hours ago, Furioso said:

Part 1: Money/Greed:

 

Well, they are struggling way worse than we are. To deal with the greed I make sure I get some interesting insight/conversation or a laugh before I make the purchase.

 

 For instance, today I went to my favorite Big C as I had to buy a King bed set. I've never really been successful at buying bedding, always screwing it up by getting the wrong size, too heavy/too light, wrong color, too cheap, too expensive, etc.

 

 So, I trudged my old carcass to the back of Big C, trying to decipher what a 6 is, will it fit? Thankfully, the bedding lady(what's her official title?) snuck up behind me. I did have one trick up my sleeve. I had typed my old King comforter dimensions in my Color Note app( a must for any Andriod owner, unless you have a better one).

 

 She was in full sale mode and I was more than ready to play her game. I said "what's all included in the bed set? She took one off the shelf and explained 2 different sized pillowcases(4 total), 1 fitted sheet, & comforter/blanket. what about this size? She asked what sized bed? I said King, then showed her the info(in CM) typed in my Color Note. She said it must be a 6, I totally believed her and yes, this is the first day of my life I know a 6 is the size for a King bed. I even now know that a 4 and 5 are Twin and Queen, respectively.

 

 Then we got down to colors, anything with white was OUT. We pulled 3 different sets off the shelf, and plopped them over the sheet display. I rubbed my chin in deep thought, all the while thinking these are the 2,500 baht suckers, I've NEVER paid that much for this type of thing! But I've got savage allergies, the old bed set has to go, TODAY. 2,500 baht? Steep but it is less than 100 euros, can't complain too much. The lady was doing great, honestly I could NOT walk away without buying something from her, plus this is something I really needed. I'm thinking, she's got this job and she has to deal with customers like me? And she's doing it with a mask covered smile on her face. Would I get anything close to this type of service back in my home country? F_¢k NO!

 

 All 3 of the bed sets looked great, I gave her the option to pick for me, she was very hesitant, really such a nice lady. Somehow we veered to the really stunning blue and the deal was done. I grabbed one of the other 2 and started to return it to it's original location and she tryed so hard to stop me lol. I guess storing is just another component of her job as well.

 

 All in all it was a fun encounter, kind of unexpected but thankfully I live in a country where a store really does have people that work and assist customers. Was I obliged to buy? In my book yes. When I got home and threw the old shi+e out and replaced it with my brand new Studio One Denzel bed set, I was very happy with my purchase. 

That's the first step. Next is for her to join you in " enjoying" the soft silken touch of those pricey bed sheets! You're almost there ????

[scorecard]

17 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

But you're not denying it right....? ????

I'm not trying to deny anything. Yes I have a few times been to girlie bars, in most/all cases because we had engineers or similar visiting on special assignments and they were curious to go to a girlie/escort bar.

 

They always stayed at 4/5 star hotels in Pattaya and it wouldn't surprise me if they went back to 'make a purchase', and that's their business totally, not my business at all.   

Edited June 15, 2023 by scorecard

[scorecard]

23 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

what else is the "cesspit" you refer to?

Here we go, don't try to bait me, I don't play that game. 

[scorecard]

47 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

If you'd got out of the bar scene more often you would have seen better things + better people

Please read all my posts.

[kingstonkid]

22 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

It's unlikely that you're going to get the friendly chat at the bus stop or in the shop that you might have had back home.  And that isn't only because of racism or a language barrier, I think culture plays a big part in it also.  But then, I don't speak much Thai, so perhaps I am wrong.  Do those foreigners fluent in Thai regularly pass the time of day with total strangers?

 

You know I find that Thai's are more friendly than expats when it comes to chatting.  I walk by Thai people and say sawdii and get a response walk past an expat get nothing.