On 7/12/2023 at 7:52 AM, sungod said:

I don't believe you are that naive.

Who is naive? 

 

I just do not understand such questions importance, or why these treads comes and goes again and again discussing prostitutes. We all know whats going on in the different bars, who is up for going, and who is not. Some girls is more professionals than others, and those you should learn to know and understand. 

 

Many of the girls is naive and have the eyes  on a better future for them and their families, and do what it takes to succeed after learning and hearing som many stories about others who was lucky. 

 

The establishments is a wide concept from priority to sell beer and drinks, to more pure selling girls for sex and between a mix. 

 

Soapies? I guess it is pure sensual massage to pure happy ending as 100% guarantee, where the girls have little or nothing to say who she have to go with.. Whoever picks here, she have to service! Right? What do you think about the girls can not choose themselves? 

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

As I understand it, prostitutes can sometimes be found at the aforementioned soapy massage places (at least that's what I've been told) so why would soapy massage places be off topic? (asking for a friend) 

 

BAR/GIRL the clue is a bar, not a massage place.

30 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Can i just put the Train back on the Tracks the thread is about Bar Girls / Prostitutes. Not about soapy massage places in Chaing Mai or anywhere else or short time rooms we know they are still there ok i will concede small farang bars do not have a room above them,

In Pattaya, there are a lot of short time rooms in hotels near bars, precisely for customers who barfine ladies short time. So, yes, some Farang bars, particularly open bars, may not have rooms on site. Same for Beach Road ladies who go to short time hotels. These are not the same as Love motels.

 

Conversely, Thai bars typically don't have ST rooms, or nearby ST hotels.

They do have an option Hummin it's called Education. Instead of learning some would rather lay in bed till 1-2 in the afternoon then lay on their back to earn money a lot of money for a few hours a night. Easier then having to get up early and do an office job or a factory job.

28 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

They do have an option Hummin it's called Education. Instead of learning some would rather lay in bed till 1-2 in the afternoon then lay on their back to earn money a lot of money for a few hours a night. Easier then having to get up early and do an office job or a factory job.

I believe you do not understand complexed social structures you find in the more poor part of Thailand, where more education is not possible for some girls, or even manage a life on a factory salery or even 7/11. 

 

Where you find girls take short cuts to a better life, or trying to make a better life, you make short cuts in your deffinition of a barl girl and what they should had done. Many girls is already broken mentally before they reach working age, and have same type of issues we in the west also have where kids drops out, but have a safety net around them. At least most of them, not all, and we also find the same people who drop out finding alternative ways to live. In Thailand those alternatives is mostly to become a service girl in one of the tourist areas, if not a service girl for the locals instead. 

 

Being a bar girl, doesnt mean they go with customers multiple time a day, or not even multiple times a week. There is a wide specter from those who go multiple times a day to those who never or very rarely goes with a customer. 

47 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Who is naive? 

 

I just do not understand such questions importance, or why these treads comes and goes again and again discussing prostitutes. We all know whats going on in the different bars, who is up for going, and who is not. Some girls is more professionals than others, and those you should learn to know and understand. 

 

Many of the girls is naive and have the eyes  on a better future for them and their families, and do what it takes to succeed after learning and hearing som many stories about others who was lucky. 

 

The establishments is a wide concept from priority to sell beer and drinks, to more pure selling girls for sex and between a mix. 

 

Soapies? I guess it is pure sensual massage to pure happy ending as 100% guarantee, where the girls have little or nothing to say who she have to go with.. Whoever picks here, she have to service! Right? What do you think about the girls can not choose themselves? 

I think you take yourself too seriously

Just now, sungod said:

I think you take yourself too seriously

while others, should taken themselves more seriously ????

 

Im impressed by you and your logic

37 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

They do have an option Hummin it's called Education. Instead of learning some would rather lay in bed till 1-2 in the afternoon then lay on their back to earn money a lot of money for a few hours a night. Easier then having to get up early and do an office job or a factory job.

For education they need money, and many rural Thai families have none.

I'm no Nubie Hummin I have been coming to Thailand since 2008. Yes, I know many girls who are in Uni or are straight out of the village who only get money from lady drinks, but once they see the older girls with there top of the range phones and new bikes they soon learn how these are obtained and quickly learn.

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

while others, should taken themselves more seriously ????

 

Im impressed by you and your logic

You quoted me then went off in a completely different direction, you have no logic.

 

Bye

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Soapies? I guess it is pure sensual massage to pure happy ending as 100% guarantee, where the girls have little or nothing to say who she have to go with.. Whoever picks here, she have to service! Right? What do you think about the girls can not choose themselves? 

As far as I know they all have a choice to work there or not.

But i was told those who will accept any customer get paid more.

 

It's more obvious in the Philippines where they divide the girls broadly into 3 groups.

Dancers (paid most, have to go with anyone)

Servers (paid less but can pick and choose within reason)

Door girls (not required to go with anyone, but paid much less)

And some bars have 'drinky girls', who will only drink and chat (maybe a cuddle) with you.

 

Was in PingPayom soapy with a tourist friend showing him the sights.

He picked a girl, and the bouncer said 'not for foreigner', so even in Thai soapies they have some choice. In the end he asked the bouncer to pick one for him and had a great time.

You don't need to be that educated to work in construction or a factory BritmanToo.

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm no Nubie Hummin I have been coming to Thailand since 2008. Yes, I know many girls who are in Uni or are straight out of the village who only get money from lady drinks, but once they see the older girls with there top of the range phones and new bikes they soon learn how these are obtained and quickly learn.

He seems to be an expert on bar girls.........sad old life.????

Oh dear, there's is always a member ready to shoot the messenger. It's called reality Shades.

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

You don't need to be that educated to work in construction or a factory BritmanToo.

Not sure I'd want to work for 200bht a day in the hot sun.

My misses first worked (age 15) on a building site mixing cement for her mom who was the bricklayer.

Factories are completely soul destroying (I know I worked in one during Uni holidays).

On 7/7/2023 at 4:42 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

With regard to the words, Prostitute, Bar Girl, and B-girl, I read all of Ian Fleming’s James Bond books while sitting in my 7th-grade classes at public school before they kicked me out and sent me to a prep school for gifted children.

Is that short-hand for a young offenders' Institution ?

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not sure I'd want to work for 200bht a day in the hot sun.

My misses first worked (age 15) on a building site mixing cement for her mom who was the bricklayer.

Factories are completely soul destroying (I know I worked in one during Uni holidays).

In one Brit, why do that when you can stay in bed till the afternoon get dressed up, and lay on your back for 10-20 mins for 2-3 thousand baht. maybe do 2-3 customers hey 12 thousand for a night's work home once the bars closed.

12 minutes ago, sungod said:

You quoted me then went off in a completely different direction, you have no logic.

 

Bye

It is in the nature of the topic, and reasonably answered, nothing more nothing less. 

 

Have a nice day 

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

In one Brit, why do that when you can stay in bed till the afternoon get dressed up, and lay on your back for 10-20 mins for 2-3 thousand baht. maybe do 2-3 customers hey 12 thousand for a night's work home once the bars closed.

Don't forget the free food and drinks while you party.

8 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Is that short-hand for a young offenders' Institution ?

What's Ian Fleming or James Bond got to do with a Thai bar girl?   I forgot the man with the golden gun was filmed a lot in Thailand.

17 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm no Nubie Hummin I have been coming to Thailand since 2008. Yes, I know many girls who are in Uni or are straight out of the village who only get money from lady drinks, but once they see the older girls with there top of the range phones and new bikes they soon learn how these are obtained and quickly learn.

It is a mixed reasons why girls become more pro, simply said they getting broken in, and learn the game of lies snd broken dreams. 

 

Bar girls also being taken for a ride by customers, not only one way around. 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Don't forget the free food and drinks while you party.

Oh yes forgot that snippet and the free taxi home.

Just now, Hummin said:

Bar girls also being taken for a ride by customers, not only one way around. 

Not sure that's true.

Doubt there are many cheated out of their fee for the night/hour ........... and anything else is not their job.

16 minutes ago, sungod said:

He seems to be an expert on bar girls.........sad old life.????

Im more interested in the social experiment when it comes to peoples behaviors and patterns than the use of the girls itself. 

 

You are more than welcome to give me such great renomme! Thank you!

20 minutes ago, sungod said:

He seems to be an expert on bar girls.........sad old life.????

Aren't we all?

Or did you come for temples and meditation, and have never had sex with a Thai?

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not sure that's true.

Doubt there are many cheated out of their fee for the night/hour ........... and anything else is not their job.

I ment customers who truly falling in love on their holiday trip and make promises they cant follow up, and contact vanish after a few weeks back in reality. A few of those for a newbie, changes them.

15 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Is that short-hand for a young offenders' Institution ?

It was an institution of learning.

I will NOT name the institution.

However, it was similar to this institution, but closer to Philly: https://www.thehill.org/

There were no girls at my institution.

We were very hard-core scholars in those days.

 

 

Just now, Hummin said:

I ment customers who truly falling in love on their holiday trip and make promises they cant follow up, and contact vanish after a few weeks back in reality. A few of those for a newbie, changes them.

I believe many forget the girls also have feelings, pride and are humans to. The girls do not start as pros with a rough shield protecting them if not broken from before. 

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I ment customers who truly falling in love on their holiday trip and make promises they cant follow up, and contact vanish after a few weeks back in reality. A few of those for a newbie, changes them.

She's selling sex for money ........... nothing else.

She lies and her customers lie right back.

It's not as if she'll do it for free if the customer lies to her, still the same price.

 

As for them having feelings ....... you're having a laugh!

After the first weeks, they have no feelings.

I prefer the old Big C Anology if you want or need something from a shelf you have to pay for it. Your paying for goods.