Hunter Biden: Plea deal for president's son collapses in dramatic court hearing

[Trippy]

49 minutes ago, heybruce said:

"The impeachment will be over the depth of Joe Biden's involvement in the influence peddling and bribery schemes."

 

They have been looking for evidence for years and come up empty.  What makes you think that's about to change?

There should be even more evidence when Hunter's business partner testifies to congress on monday. But those with a closed mind won't believe it anyways.

 

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12332407/Hunters-friend-Devon-Archer-reschedules-date-House-Oversight-committee-FOURTH-time-subpoena-prepares-dish-longtime-partner-powerful-father-speakerphone-impress-clients.html

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12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

A DOJ change of tack with less obstruction and slow-walking. 

Because obstruction and slow walking is what it's all about when any hard evidence is lacking?

[heybruce]

17 minutes ago, nauseus said:

A DOJ change of tack with less obstruction and slow-walking. 

There's a vague non-answer.

[heybruce]

9 minutes ago, Trippy said:

There should be even more evidence when Hunter's business partner testifies to congress on monday. But those with a closed mind won't believe it anyways.

 

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12332407/Hunters-friend-Devon-Archer-reschedules-date-House-Oversight-committee-FOURTH-time-subpoena-prepares-dish-longtime-partner-powerful-father-speakerphone-impress-clients.html

Devon Archer has been convicted of fraud.  https://nypost.com/2022/02/28/devon-archer-sentenced-for-role-in-hunter-biden-fraud-scheme/  Taking the testimony of a convicted fraudster with some skepticism is not being close minded.

 

As I've pointed out on another topic, the testimony of a convicted fraudster like Devon Archer will be useless unless there is supporting evidence.  Is there any supporting evidence for whatever you think Archer will testify?

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

Devon Archer has been convicted of fraud.  https://nypost.com/2022/02/28/devon-archer-sentenced-for-role-in-hunter-biden-fraud-scheme/  Taking the testimony of a convicted fraudster with some skepticism is not being close minded.

 

As I've pointed out on another topic, the testimony of a convicted fraudster like Devon Archer will be useless unless there is supporting evidence.  Is there any supporting evidence for whatever you think Archer will testify?

Just wait please, OMG

[Trippy]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Devon Archer has been convicted of fraud.  https://nypost.com/2022/02/28/devon-archer-sentenced-for-role-in-hunter-biden-fraud-scheme/  Taking the testimony of a convicted fraudster with some skepticism is not being close minded.

 

As I've pointed out on another topic, the testimony of a convicted fraudster like Devon Archer will be useless unless there is supporting evidence.  Is there any supporting evidence for whatever you think Archer will testify?

The supporting evidence is the emails on Hunter's laptop, and the bank statements.

[heybruce]

3 minutes ago, Trippy said:

The supporting evidence is the emails on Hunter's laptop, and the bank statements.

Which in no way implicate President Biden.

[heybruce]

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Just wait please, OMG

Why not?  We've been waiting for years for the smoking gun that will implicate Joe Biden in something, what's a few more years of waiting?

[candide]

2 hours ago, Trippy said:

The supporting evidence is the emails on Hunter's laptop, and the bank statements.

Supporting evidence of what, exactly?

[candide]

2 hours ago, Trippy said:

There should be even more evidence when Hunter's business partner testifies to congress on monday. But those with a closed mind won't believe it anyways.

 

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12332407/Hunters-friend-Devon-Archer-reschedules-date-House-Oversight-committee-FOURTH-time-subpoena-prepares-dish-longtime-partner-powerful-father-speakerphone-impress-clients.html

Well, if his testimony confirms what the NYPost wrote about it (the article cited as the source of the DM article), you may be disappointed.

Quote:

"VP Biden greeted the Ukrainians but spoke only in vague pleasantries during the short call, and in other such interactions with Hunter’s overseas business partners, Archer is expected to testify."

https://nypost.com/2023/07/23/hunter-biden-put-then-vp-dad-joe-on-the-phone-with-business-associates-at-least-2-dozen-times-ex-partner-devon-archer-to-testify/

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Because obstruction and slow walking is what it's all about when any hard evidence is lacking?

Because obstruction and slow walking are the likely reasons why evidence is lacking.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

There's a vague non-answer.

A bit like the responses from the DOJ, FBI, DHS and the WH press secretary. Yah? ????

[nauseus]

10 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahh if he pleads to a felony gun charge he won’t be allowed to own a gun as far as the rest hunter withdrew his plea because they had the understanding that the harassment on this would stop 

Or......they thought they would bundle up all the charges together in return for immunity from anything else that might come up.   

[Tug]

7 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Threads like this remind me of Simon and Garfunkel;

 

The Sound of Silence

 

Nobody jumping  to the defence of the Bidanos any more I guess.

You need to change that verse of the song to (the sound of desperation )lmao ???? this is the son of the president he changed his plea because he thought the guilty plea would stop the harassment .the plea is in the normal range for such crimes no more no less the rest of the rhetoric  is a distraction from trumps very real documented extremely serious crimes perhaps that is why folks with your political beliefs aren’t over there defending him.que up the what about trump Cunard (indeed)all of this has to do with the utter desolation of what the republicans espouse at this point in time they desperately need the distraction it is what it is

[riclag]

During a contentious court hearing in a federal court in Wilmington, Delaware, federal prosecutor Leo Wise confirmed to Judge Maryellen Noreika of the U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware that the DOJ is still investigating Hunter Biden over a potential FARA violation. According to the DOJ, a willful violation of FARA could result in a five-year imprisonment and $250,000 fine, or both.

https://news.yahoo.com/doj-reveals-hunter-biden-still-224814703.html

 God speed ,Gop oversite has done a hell of a job . Once archer testifies with his accusations about then VP it will be impeachment inquiry time for the Potus. Imop

https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-to-dish-on-10-million-bribe/

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Because obstruction and slow walking are the likely reasons why evidence is lacking.

Right. The justice dept under Jeff Sessions and William Barr just did nothing even though Trump pushed for it. Even thought Rudy Giuliani as Trump's personal lawyer traveled to Ukraine to try and dig up dirt. You've got nothing.

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3 minutes ago, riclag said:

During a contentious court hearing in a federal court in Wilmington, Delaware, federal prosecutor Leo Wise confirmed to Judge Maryellen Noreika of the U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware that the DOJ is still investigating Hunter Biden over a potential FARA violation. According to the DOJ, a willful violation of FARA could result in a five-year imprisonment and $250,000 fine, or both.

https://news.yahoo.com/doj-reveals-hunter-biden-still-224814703.html

 God speed ,Gop oversite has done a hell of a job . Once archer testifies with his accusations about then VP it will be impeachment inquiry time for the Potus. Imop

https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-to-dish-on-10-million-bribe/

Funny. I read the NY Post article about the potential Archer testimony. And even if it's true that Biden knowingly spoke via speakerphone with Hunter Biden's associates...

VP Biden greeted the Ukrainians but spoke only in vague pleasantries during the short call, and in other such interactions with Hunter’s overseas business partners, Archer is expected to testify. 

https://nypost.com/2023/07/23/hunter-biden-put-then-vp-dad-joe-on-the-phone-with-business-associates-at-least-2-dozen-times-ex-partner-devon-archer-to-testify/

[Hanaguma]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Funny. I read the NY Post article about the potential Archer testimony. And even if it's true that Biden knowingly spoke via speakerphone with Hunter Biden's associates...

VP Biden greeted the Ukrainians but spoke only in vague pleasantries during the short call, and in other such interactions with Hunter’s overseas business partners, Archer is expected to testify. 

https://nypost.com/2023/07/23/hunter-biden-put-then-vp-dad-joe-on-the-phone-with-business-associates-at-least-2-dozen-times-ex-partner-devon-archer-to-testify/

Even if that is the extent of it, it shows clearly that Biden was lying when he repeatedly said, "my son and I never discussed anything about his business".  And also why lately the story from the White House press office has changed the narrative to "never was in business with Hunter".

[Tug]

31 minutes ago, riclag said:

During a contentious court hearing in a federal court in Wilmington, Delaware, federal prosecutor Leo Wise confirmed to Judge Maryellen Noreika of the U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware that the DOJ is still investigating Hunter Biden over a potential FARA violation. According to the DOJ, a willful violation of FARA could result in a five-year imprisonment and $250,000 fine, or both.

https://news.yahoo.com/doj-reveals-hunter-biden-still-224814703.html

 God speed ,Gop oversite has done a hell of a job . Once archer testifies with his accusations about then VP it will be impeachment inquiry time for the Potus. Imop

https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-to-dish-on-10-million-bribe/

They have been after this guy for 5 years enough!now if you really feel the way you say you must be absolutely overjoyed the DOJ is finally catching up to trump and holding him accountable for the in your face on camera tweeted well documented crimes you know like sedition national security fraud ect ect ya da ya da ya da humm?and don’t pull the what about trump card,this attacking the presidents only surviving son is all about distracting from trumps many transgressions.

[watthong]

9 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Threads like this remind me of Simon and Garfunkel;

 

The Sound of Silence

 

Nobody jumping  to the defence of the Bidanos any more I guess.

Because handsome is as handsome does. As for the GOP clown crowd, substitute something else for "handsome." Something starts with an S and ends with a D - with "tupi" in between. First they went for investigating the investigators (spelled "Durham") which went no where and cost millions for staff salaries just for twiddling their thumbs, now they go after the current president' son as tit for tat for you know who.

 

I really pity my country, for the animal house that stands for the people's house, and for a supreme court that eats from the hands of billionaires, just like lapdogs. And last not least  for some of my fellow country men rejoicing in this nonsensical spectacle, just like fools.

[watthong]

22 minutes ago, Tug said:

you must be absolutely overjoyed the DOJ is finally catching up to trump and holding him accountable for the in your face on camera tweeted well documented crimes you know like sedition national security fraud ect ect ya da ya da ya da humm?and don’t pull the what about trump card,this attacking the presidents only surviving son is all about distracting from trumps many transgressions.

I am for one beyond overjoyed, say ecstatic would be the word. It's raining INDICTMENTS, hallelujah!!!  To be honest I can hardly go to sleep each night these days, wondering what tomorrow might bring (Oops, sounds like I'm speaking on Trump's behalf - totally unintentional, I say.) The icing on the cake is those "fake electors" , deliciously age-ripe for the slammer!

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5 hours ago, Trippy said:

The supporting evidence is the emails on Hunter's laptop, and the bank statements.

What bank statements would those be?

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46 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Even if that is the extent of it, it shows clearly that Biden was lying when he repeatedly said, "my son and I never discussed anything about his business".  And also why lately the story from the White House press office has changed the narrative to "never was in business with Hunter".

Actually, if you had read the NY Post Article, it claims Biden only spoke in platitudes and generalities. Nothing in that means Biden and his son discussed the business.

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, if you had read the NY Post Article, it claims Biden only spoke in platitudes and generalities. Nothing in that means Biden and his son discussed the business.

Doesn't matter. HERE is what Biden was saying back in 2019; 

 

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.” 

 

and from the same article;

 

Hunter Biden, however, told the New Yorker in an interview for an article published in July that he discussed Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas producer, with his father in December 2015. At the time, Hunter Biden sat on Burisma‘s board of directors.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/21/joe-biden-never-talked-ukraine-son-trump-needs-investigated/2401830001/

 

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10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Doesn't matter. HERE is what Biden was saying back in 2019; 

 

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.” 

 

and from the same article;

 

Hunter Biden, however, told the New Yorker in an interview for an article published in July that he discussed Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas producer, with his father in December 2015. At the time, Hunter Biden sat on Burisma‘s board of directors.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/21/joe-biden-never-talked-ukraine-son-trump-needs-investigated/2401830001/

 

Biden knew that his son was on Burisma's board. No evidence that he discussed with his son his dealings with Burisma. There was an article Hunter Biden's business relationship with the NY Times in 2015.

https://archive.ph/1Fbr0

[Hanaguma]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Biden knew that his son was on Burisma's board. No evidence that he discussed with his son his dealings with Burisma. There was an article Hunter Biden's business relationship with the NY Times in 2015.

https://archive.ph/1Fbr0

Hunter (on phone to Joe): "Hey dad! These Ukranians are giving me a million bucks a year to do nothing!"

Joe: "That's nice son.  Do you know where I left my glasses?"

 

Come on, man.

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Just now, Hanaguma said:

Hunter (on phone to Joe): "Hey dad! These Ukranians are giving me a million bucks a year to do nothing!"

Joe: "That's nice son.  Do you know where I left my glasses?"

 

Come on, man.

Again, more fiction from you. You got any evidence that Hunter Biden was talking about his business associates when he called his father? Because all that a father and son  can talk about is business? And that article you cited quotes Biden as telling his son "I hope you know what you're doing." No evidence that his son shared any information about his business dealings with Burisma.

 

[BenStark]

47 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You got any evidence that Hunter Biden was talking about his business associates when he called his father?

Slowly, step by step we will get there,

 

You remember the laptop was also not Hunters, after it was clear it indeed was his laptop, it was loaded by the Russians.

 

What is the current situation on the laptop?

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Just now, BenStark said:

Slowly, step by step we will get there,

And Jesus is coming any day now.

[Tug]

51 minutes ago, BenStark said:

Slowly, step by step we will get there,

 

You remember the laptop was also not Hunters, after it was clear it indeed was his laptop, it was loaded by the Russians.

 

What is the current situation on the laptop?

Well your slowly has been stalking this guy for 5 years now ,slow indeed more like stalking hounding smearing trolling discrediting it’s getting a bit old and most folks see it for what it is attempting to get at the father by attacking his only surviving offspring.he had a drug problem he is sober now that’s a good thing,he cheated on his taxes he paid up fines and all.he lied about his addiction on a form to purchase gun he fessed up said gun was never used in a threatening manner towards anyone.It’s all drama to distract from trump meh……