Move Forward deputy leader proposes party votes for Pheu Thai’s PM candidate

[snoop1130]

 

A deputy leader of the Move Forward party said today (Tuesday) that he will propose to the party’s executive committee, at today’s meeting, that they vote in support of Pheu Thai party’s prime ministerial candidate in parliament.

 

Pol Maj Gen Suphisarn Pakdinarunart reasoned that, since the Pheu Thai party shares similar views with the Move Forward party, namely that the Constitution should be amended to remove senators’ power in the selection of the prime minister, the Move Forward party should support Pheu Thai’s candidate.

 

The Pheu Thai party has joined hands with the Bhumjaithai party to become the core parties in an attempt form a government, on the conditions that the lèse majesté law is left intact and the coalition will not include the Move Forward party. The party has appealed for support from senators and MPs for its prime ministerial candidate, Srettha Thavisin, so a new government can be formed without further delay.

 

Caption: Srettha Thavisin

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/move-forward-deputy-leader-proposes-party-votes-for-pheu-thais-prime-ministerial-candidate/

 

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[brommers]

So having been shafted by PT this guy thinks that MFP should vote for their PM candidate because of shared values. PT will happily drop these values the moment Anutin demands this because PT have no values, no moral compass and no shame. But the voters have values and they will respond harshly at the first opportunity because once again they are being betrayed by power hungry egotistical prostitues masquerading as politicians.

[Geoffggi]

More to this than what appears on the surface .................................LOL

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Pheu Thai party has joined hands with the Bhumjaithai party to become the core parties in an attempt form a government, on the conditions that the lèse majesté law is left intact and the coalition will not include the Move Forward party

Tail wagging the dog.

[damian]

He should perhaps wait until PT announce the other members of their coalition of crooks.

[Toolong]

His reasoning does not make enough sense to dispel my 'nair norn' suspicion that he's simply been offered some tat for his tit. 

[herfiehandbag]

Perhaps as bitter pill to swallow, but if it allows Pheu Thai and Bhumjaithai to form a government then maybe better than the alternative, which the "establishment" is working towards, which is Prawit as Prime Minister, propped up by Pheu Thai and Bhumjaithai.

 

Still, they have two weeks at least - plenty of time if needed to suspend/dissolve Move Forward and remove their vote.

 

Such a move would be blatant, even by the standards of the current shenanigans, and it would be darkly entertaining watching Wissanu spinning like a demented top as he explained it away, but it could be a case of needs must.

[anchadian]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ThaiEnquirer News Summary – August 9, 2023

 

- Pheu Thai party’s plans to unveil new coalition members hits a bump as one of the smaller parties with 2 seats sent out a signal nearly at midnight yesterday.

 

- Some members of Move Forward party come out to say that they would support Pheu Thai party’s Prime Minister candidate only if the 2 uncles (Ruam Thai Saang Chart and Palang Pracharat parties) were not part of the coalition.

 

- Pheu Thai party holds its meeting of MPs to hammer out differences and to possibly state to its MPs that it is doing what it can to form govt.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1689102304967110657

 

 

[newnative]

   Just what I said MF should do a week or so ago.  Proclaim loudly and publicly that MF, the party that is in favor of modifying Article 112, the party that is in favor of far-reaching reform, including of the military, will stand with PT and vote for the PT candidate as PM. 

    Now, what are the junta parties and the Senators going to do?  Be seen as also standing along side MF, and be seen as agreeing with MF, if they, too, vote for the PT candidate; or, be seen as once again voting against the will of the voters, voting against democracy, and voting to once again delay the forming of a government.  Win-win either way for MF.

[bannork]

13 minutes ago, newnative said:

   Just what I said MF should do a week or so ago.  Proclaim loudly and publicly that MF, the party that is in favor of modifying Article 112, the party that is in favor of far-reaching reform, including of the military, will stand with PT and vote for the PT candidate as PM. 

    Now, what are the junta parties and the Senators going to do?  Be seen as also standing along side MF, and be seen as agreeing with MF, if they, too, vote for the PT candidate; or, be seen as once again voting against the will of the voters, voting against democracy, and voting to once again delay the forming of a government.  Win-win either way for MF.

If all of M F vote for Settha, the senators' votes are superfluous.

But why should MF vote for a party that deserted them rather than standing by their side and going into Opposition?

To hellll with PT, let them crawl to the senators for votes 

[BangkokReady]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

on the conditions that the lèse majesté law is left intact and the coalition will not include the Move Forward party.

But, if they want to ensure the above never happens, then the below can never happen either. Since without the protection of the senators, a party that wants to do away with 112 can be elected next time.

 

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the Constitution should be amended to remove senators’ power in the selection of the prime minister

In order to protect 112, the senators have to be able to choose who will be in power, not the electorate.

 

????‍♂️

Edited August 9, 2023 by BangkokReady

[Eric Loh]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

If all of M F vote for Settha, the senators' votes are superfluous.

But why should MF vote for a party that deserted them rather than standing by their side and going into Opposition?

To hellll with PT, let them crawl to the senators for votes 

The statement by Pita after his party stepped out of the coalition does give indication of where MFP’s votes will likely go.

“ Forming a new government that ends the military’s grip on politics is more important than becoming Thailand’s next prime minister, Move Forward Party leader Pita Limjaroenrat”. 
 

Also the news about the senators are split rather than totally against voting for Sretha is encouraging. 

[newnative]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

If all of M F vote for Settha, the senators' votes are superfluous.

But why should MF vote for a party that deserted them rather than standing by their side and going into Opposition?

To hellll with PT, let them crawl to the senators for votes 

    That's an excellent outcome right there--the Senators' votes being superfluous.  If PT has any smarts and wants to redeem itself, as soon as it gets into power it should invite MF back into the coalition--which is why MF should vote for the PT candidate for PM.  If any coalition parties want to leave at that point if MF rejoins, fine--the ones that leave likely would be the ones not wanted, anyway.  PT and MF need to be working together, as was initially planned after the election.  Sort of a roundabout way of getting back to Plan A.

[mfd101]

13 minutes ago, newnative said:

    That's an excellent outcome right there--the Senators' votes being superfluous.  If PT has any smarts and wants to redeem itself, as soon as it gets into power it should invite MF back into the coalition--which is why MF should vote for the PT candidate for PM.  If any coalition parties want to leave at that point if MF rejoins, fine--the ones that leave likely would be the ones not wanted, anyway.  PT and MF need to be working together, as was initially planned after the election.  Sort of a roundabout way of getting back to Plan A.

And in any case, if MFP does vote for Srettha as PM, they should make it clear to PTP that they're expecting some pretty weighty policy quid quo pros down the track, failure of which will have clear consequences at the next election.

 

Question: I assume that any move to 'abolish' MFP would remove only those MFP members who were elected on the party vote (as opposed to individually in each electorate)?

[PETERTHEEATER]

I suggest the Police Major General decides whether he wants to be a policeman or a politician since the two occuoations are incompatible. Robber and politician, OK.

[newnative]

4 hours ago, mfd101 said:

And in any case, if MFP does vote for Srettha as PM, they should make it clear to PTP that they're expecting some pretty weighty policy quid quo pros down the track, failure of which will have clear consequences at the next election.

 

Question: I assume that any move to 'abolish' MFP would remove only those MFP members who were elected on the party vote (as opposed to individually in each electorate)?

I agree about getting some payback from PT for the votes.  I don't know what happens to MF members if MF is abolished.  

[zzaa09]

Why is a Police Major General a deputy of a so called populist people's progressive party? 

 

Isn't that what were trying to get away from? 

I'm sure most won't find this terribly odd or confusing as I might. 

Edited August 9, 2023 by zzaa09

[bannork]

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The statement by Pita after his party stepped out of the coalition does give indication of where MFP’s votes will likely go.

“ Forming a new government that ends the military’s grip on politics is more important than becoming Thailand’s next prime minister, Move Forward Party leader Pita Limjaroenrat”. 
 

Also the news about the senators are split rather than totally against voting for Sretha is encouraging. 

But I don't think PT can bring Thaksin home if Pravit and his party are excluded from the government. 

 

[bannork]

5 hours ago, newnative said:

    That's an excellent outcome right there--the Senators' votes being superfluous.  If PT has any smarts and wants to redeem itself, as soon as it gets into power it should invite MF back into the coalition--which is why MF should vote for the PT candidate for PM.  If any coalition parties want to leave at that point if MF rejoins, fine--the ones that leave likely would be the ones not wanted, anyway.  PT and MF need to be working together, as was initially planned after the election.  Sort of a roundabout way of getting back to Plan A.

It can't do that because the government has to take an oath of allegiance to the Crown as serving ministers.

I believe to introduce a whole new party after that with portfolios assigned would be illegal. 

 

[observer90210]

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[zzaa09]

52 minutes ago, bannork said:

But I don't think PT can bring Thaksin home if Pravit and his party are excluded from the government. 

 

Perhaps they've come to some sort of agreement, along with the blessings of higher entities.

All of which was probably a deal drawn up some time ago.