Thai PM says he opposes the recreational use of cannabis

[Polaky]

First this new pm opens the floodgates for the Chinese, and now will destroy thousands of small businesses,  should have left the job to Pita.

[Shocked farang]

As this is Thailand, in the end he will definetly leave the potheads alone as the gennie is already out of the bottle!

[1sickpuppy]

18 hours ago, bob smith said:

and you've just gone down in mine!

 

Talk about swings and roundabouts eh... ???? 

Just another Dinosaur who was not elected, but is ok for drunken idiots to create road carnage, is a sad world, puppet

[metisdead]

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[klauskunkel]

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The confusion from last year’s delisting in Thailand, was the result of no proper legislation being in force at the time

and no proper legislation being in force at the time was the result of having idiots in power

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[thailand49]

I wouldn't get too worked up with anything this new puppet has to say it is all smoke and mirror. Their so call constitution doesn't allow any PM to do anything in is all in their mind that they can. 

If he had the power would have just did a photo op behind his desk pen in hand strike it down. 

But reality with half ass enforcement with everything else it will still continue. 

With Anutin, health minister back he authorized the use was he the real PM,  and not the puppet Chan O,  just talk the can is open impossible to go back. 

[itsari]

2 hours ago, 2baht said:

Beware of those damned weed addicts! Dangerous! ????

Beware of the awful smell produced by weed addicts in public places .

[2baht]

Just now, itsari said:

Beware of the awful smell produced by weed addicts in public places .

You go right now and fix yourself a strong gin and tonic! 

[itsari]

5 minutes ago, 2baht said:

You go right now and fix yourself a strong gin and tonic! 

Thank uou for the offer but i decline 

[JBChiangRai]

So what the PM is saying he may apply the law as it currently stands and turning a blind-eye may end.

 

Recreational use is illegal.

 

Marijuana can only be used for medicinal purposes and dispensaries have to check your prescription, which you can probably get very easily.

 

That is the law currently, although it is ignored.

[LukKrueng]

20 hours ago, ezzra said:

If so he must now allocate many more of his police force to make sure of it, in my opinion, wrong decision, after allowing Thai people to grow, use and sell now he comes up with this...

Just wait till his boss finds out how he himself can make big money out of it and it will be all legal. They'll probably make complicated rules and laws as to who can grow\sell - rules that only the boss can comply with, and then it'll be ok

[Marco51]

20 hours ago, ezzra said:

If so he must now allocate many more of his police force to make sure of it, in my opinion, wrong decision, after allowing Thai people to grow, use and sell now he comes up with this...

......more brown envelopes. Have to make up for some from Kamnans , which will be lost...............

[Headgame]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

So what the PM is saying he may apply the law as it currently stands and turning a blind-eye may end.

 

Recreational use is illegal.

 

 

Marijuana can only be used for medicinal purposes and dispensaries have to check your prescription, which you can probably get very easily.

 

That is the law currently, although it is ignored.

That is not correct. There is a perceived loophole in the law being that the legislation refers to extracts for medicinal purposes and silent on flower, bud, etc. It was that loophole and no ability or willingness to provide regulation of non extract products that opened the door to the current unregulated availability for recreational purposes.

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, Headgame said:

That is not correct. There is a perceived loophole in the law being that the legislation refers to extracts for medicinal purposes and silent on flower, bud, etc. It was that loophole and no ability or willingness to provide regulation of non extract products that opened the door to the current unregulated availability for recreational purposes.

What you say is true in what the law says can be sold and those clauses are silent on flower, however, the law also says it is a narcotic, and if it’s a narcotic, then it is illegal to take for recreational purposes, that is the law.

[roietfortress]

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has spoken out for the first time, expressing his feelings about {insert any subject}

from what i'm hearing, this part is upsetting a lot of Thais on many subjects.

 

quiet during elections, then proposing new policies after getting the seat.

 

most Thais couldn't care less about cannabis. its not seen or used in daily life. most Thais don't live in cities and they are more worried about eating.

 

i can survey my entire village and zero people will say they're concerned about cannabis use. many will probably ask to try it. my MIL enjoys it now in her soups.

 

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[Headgame]

6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

What you say is true in what the law says can be sold and those clauses are silent on flower, however, the law also says it is a narcotic, and if it’s a narcotic, then it is illegal to take for recreational purposes, that is the law.

As I said it is a perceived loophole that the govt has not addressed whether it’s “the law” or not. As they say perception is reality..

[sambum]

That won't please (Currently) Deputy Prime MInister Anutin - but maybe he saw it coming! :-

 

 

Minister of Public Health
In office 10 July 2019 – 1 September 2023

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[Enzian]

Pot seems to have arrived at the same place as prostitution, concerning which if you ask any of the top guys what they think they would no doubt say it's illegal and they are personally against it. Another elephant of no enforcement sitting in the center of the room. The Thai system.

I walked on some less familiar streets last night and saw no less than 3 new pot shops that I swear were not there 2 weeks ago. All small but shiny and well lit (no pun intended). Interesting times indeed, and I can't even guess where it will go from here.

[JBChiangRai]

36 minutes ago, sambum said:

That won't please (Currently) Deputy Prime MInister Anutin - but maybe he saw it coming! :-

 

 

Minister of Public Health
In office 10 July 2019 – 1 September 2023

Amazing Thailand, where the populous overwhelmingly vote to get rid of the old guard like Anutin & Thammanat, only to have them reappear as Deputy PM and as minister.

[Peabody]

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Marijuana can only be used for medicinal purposes and dispensaries have to check your prescription, which you can probably get very easily.

Anybody have any idea what the current real regs on growing are? 15 plants?

[Big D]

Let's compare how many people who engage in the use of cannabis are arrested for violent crimes, and how many are arrested for violent crime while under the influence of alcohol.

Clearly alcohol is the big winner by far. Therefore if we're going to make cannabis illegal, common sense dictates alcohol should be made illegal as well. Don't be a hypocrite if your an avid supporter of alcohol, you should be as supportive of making both illegal. Live and let live!

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, Headgame said:

That is not correct. There is a perceived loophole in the law being that the legislation refers to extracts for medicinal purposes and silent on flower, bud, etc. It was that loophole and no ability or willingness to provide regulation of non extract products that opened the door to the current unregulated availability for recreational purposes.

Incorrect. There is no "legislation" (yet).

 

Cannabis Flower (and Hemp, and Kratom) were removed from the Narcotics Lists 9 June 2022, where it was classified as a Category 5 Narcotic, by written order of the Minister of Public Health, Anutin. Extracts of Cannabis with greater than 0.2% THC are "said to be" ILLEGAL, but this is a loophole because Extracts are NOT on the Narcotics list.

 

Certain restrictions were placed on the sales, use at the time, and were subsequently modified. Sales channels need to be licensed. So you cannot sell to under 20 YO, pregnant women, advertise, sell via vending machines or "electronic means", consume in public where is causes others to feel uncomfortable. 

 

So Cannabis Flower is no longer illegal to grow, sell and consume recreationally. 

 

The PM could add Cannabis Flower back on the Narcotics List with a written order, if he wanted. Since he hasn't, nor asked his Minister of Public Health to do so, one assume that the PM is just kicking the can down the road.

 

I think the plan is to continue reading the Cannabis Control Act in Parliament, where it passed a first reading last year with 373 MPs voted in support of the bill, with 7 against. 23 MPs abstained. The Cannabis Control act creates a Cannabis Control Board which will over see all laws, rules, procedures re: Cannabis. The Cannabis Control Board, like the Alcohol Control Board, would likely place additional restrictions on recreational use, but not eliminate it.

 

I would expect DTAM (traditional medicine inside MoPH) to control medicinal applications. Currently there are very few authorized treatments for medicinal cannabis (four I think, epileptic seizures, end of life/palliative, two others). 

 

 

 

 

 

[bamnutsak]

50 minutes ago, Peabody said:

Anybody have any idea what the current real regs on growing are? 15 plants?

This is somewhat vague right now. AFAIK, there is no enforcement.

 

You're supposed to register via the Plook Ganja app.

 

The CCA (draft legislation) said "no more than 15 plants" (and 5 rai of hemp).

 

Obviously if you are a registered commercial grower then you can probably grow as many plants as you want.

 

 

[freeworld]

4 hours ago, itsari said:

Beware of the awful smell produced by weed addicts in public places .

Exactly, that stuff stinks to high heaven and should be banned on that alone.

[Bim Smith]

The proverbial cat is out the out bag already. You may close the outlets but no law enforcement is stopping these rural folk from growing it and using it now. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

What you say is true in what the law says can be sold and those clauses are silent on flower, however, the law also says it is a narcotic, and if it’s a narcotic, then it is illegal to take for recreational purposes, that is the law.

It’s not a narcotic.

 

Cannabis flower was completely removed from the narcotics list in June last year. 

 

[PETERTHEEATER]

On 9/15/2023 at 6:48 AM, WHansen said:

Not a lot of usable bud there.

Needs drying and a manicure for sure.

Is that the Bud Lite that's been in the news lately?

[JBChiangRai]

47 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

It’s not a narcotic.

 

Cannabis flower was completely removed from the narcotics list in June last year. 

 

It is only legal if THC content is below 0.2% I don’t think anyone can use that recreationally.

 

This graphic from the Thai Government PR Dept.

 

 

[Bday Prang]

9 hours ago, Poseidon said:

So after allowing many thais to buy the drug legally they are going to remove the legal supply. 

This will mean thais who are most likely addicted will buy it illegally welcoming in drug dealers and gangs. Brilliant move. Well thought out this one 

"addicted"  !!!  what on earth are you talking about??  You really should refrain from commenting on matters about which you know nothing

[Sydebolle]

Well, he is roaming the North with Anutin who introduced the legalization - so they might have something to talk about tonight instead of hanging around in a sleazy karaoke bar ..........