Getting 30/60 day extension to current multi entry Non-O visa to visit wife....

[bamboozled]

12 hours ago, Liquorice said:

You don't submit any 90 day reports when using the Non Imm O ME visa.

...didn't exit country within 90 days....

[Liquorice]

12 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

...didn't exit country within 90 days....

90 day reports are only submitted if having permission of stay for over 90 consecutive days to confirm your address.

If you apply for a 60 day extension based on Thai spouse, the application includes providing proof of your current address.

The visit to your IO to submit the application and confirm address, acts the same as a 90-day report.

 

With a Non Imm O ME visa you can stay in Thailand for almost 17 months, with only 3 border runs and 3 x 60 day extensions, without submitting any 90 day reports.

[Red Phoenix]

8 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

...didn't exit country within 90 days....

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When you entered Thailand with a stil valid 1-year Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa, you will be stamped in by border-immigration with a Permission to stay for 90 days.  It would be difficult to 'loose track' on that one, as the expiry date of that Permission to stay is stamped in your Passport.  And at the end of the 90 days you have 2 options:

- Apply in the final days of that 90-day Permission to stay at your local Imm Office for a 60-day extension of stay for visiting your wife (requirements are addressed in previous posts in this thread);

- Exit Thailand latest on last day of that Permission to stay, and either returning when the 1-year ME Non Imm O Visa has not expired and is still valid, which will provide you once again with a 90-days Permission to stay;

- Apply for a NEW 1-year MultipleEntry Non Imm O Visa, when he old one has expired (the Thai consulate in Savannakhet being one of the easiest ways to get hold of such NEW Visa - note that they now require proof of +400.000,- THB on a personal Thai bank-account as part of the application requirements.  Failing to do so, they will only provide you with a 90-day Single Entry Non Imm O Visa.

[AaronIsaan]

On 9/28/2023 at 1:25 PM, Red Phoenix said:

When you are in Thailand on a Permission to stay based on a Non Imm O Visa (be it for Retirement or Marriage or any other reason), you cannot apply for a 30-day extension of stay at your local Imm Office, as such 30-day extensions are ONLY for those that entered on a VisaExempt or Tourist Visa.

But when you are married to a Thai national you can ALWAYS apply at your local Imm Office for a 60-day extension of stay for reason of visiting your wife and it doesn't matter on which Visa you entered Thailand (be it VisaExempt, Tourist, Retirement or Marriage). 

So in your case - married to a Thai national - you can apply at your local Imm Office for a 60-day extension of stay.  Such application can be done once for EACH entry into Thailand.  So those that have a MultipleEntry Non Imm O Visa and are married to a Thai national can apply after every entry in Thailand (which will provide them with a 90-day Permission to stay).  So if it is cumbersome to do the border-hop every 3 months, one could also extend every 90-day Permission to stay with a one-time 60-day extension for reason of visiting your wife.

To answer your last question > Immigration will not have any objections for you doing so, as you would be fully compliant with all Immigration requirements. 

Cheers and success!

Hello. Sorry about my English, it's not my mother tongue. I have a doubt, really are two.

1- Can you enter Thailand on visa exempt (30 days), extend it other 30 days and then apply for the 60 days extension of stay to visit your wife?

2-A friend went to extend his tourist visa (60 days) for 30 days, but he was granted 60 days without request it, was that the extension for visit wife or an error? (He is married to a Thai lady, but not mentioned it)

Thanks in advance for any useful comments.

[DrJack54]

14 minutes ago, AaronIsaan said:

Hello. Sorry about my English, it's not my mother tongue. I have a doubt, really are two.

1- Can you enter Thailand on visa exempt (30 days), extend it other 30 days and then apply for the 60 days extension of stay to visit your wife?

2-A friend went to extend his tourist visa (60 days) for 30 days, but he was granted 60 days without request it, was that the extension for visit wife or an error? (He is married to a Thai lady, but not mentioned it)

Thanks in advance for any useful comments.

1: 30 day extension to visa exempt or tourist visa entry followed by 60 day extension to visit wife is possible. 

 

2: don't understand how he was given 60 day extension as that extension is specific to wife and docs required for that. 

 

Are you sure the friend did not have a METV. 

[Red Phoenix]

11 minutes ago, AaronIsaan said:

Hello. Sorry about my English, it's not my mother tongue. I have a doubt, really are two.

1- Can you enter Thailand on visa exempt (30 days), extend it other 30 days and then apply for the 60 days extension of stay to visit your wife?

2-A friend went to extend his tourist visa (60 days) for 30 days, but he was granted 60 days without request it, was that the extension for visit wife or an error? (He is married to a Thai lady, but not mentioned it)

Thanks in advance for any useful comments.

1 - Yes, you have the option to extend the Permission to stay of a Visa Exempt entry or a Tourist Visa entry with a 30-day extension.  This can be done once per entry, costs 1.900,- THB (like any extension) and is delivered on the spot, with the additional 30 days added to the expiry date of the Permission to stay you received on entering Thailand.  So no need to wait till end of that Permission to stay to apply for the 30-day extension. 

2 - You friend, will have applied for the 60-day extension of stay for reason of 'visiting his wife'.  This can be done once for any entry, costs 1.900,- THB but requires a copy of the original marriage certificate and a recent Kor-Ror-2 (excerpt from the Thai national marriage register which can be gotten from ANY Thai amphur, providing evidence that you are still registered as married to a Thai national, and that Kor-Ror-2 costs between 20 and 100 TB).  His Thai wife needs to accompany him when applying for that 60-day extension for reason of marriage.

Note that you friend could have applied first for the 'regular' 30-day extension (when he entered VisaExempt or on a Tourist Visa) and then for the 60-day extension for reason of marriage.  But not all Thai Imm offices allow to do it in 'reverse order'.

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Note that you friend could have applied first for the 'regular' 30-day extension (when he entered VisaExempt or on a Tourist Visa) and then for the 60-day extension for reason of marriage.  But not all Thai Imm offices allow to do it in 'reverse order'.

That is also my understanding.  

Perhaps go a step further ....I think the 30 day extension must be applied for first. 

[AaronIsaan]

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

1: 30 day extension to visa exempt or tourist visa entry followed by 60 day extension to visit wife is possible. 

 

2: don't understand how he was given 60 day extension as that extension is specific to wife and docs required for that. 

 

Are you sure the friend did not have a METV. 

Thanks for your response. In fact, my friend's wife carried the weeding documents when he requested the extension, so he was granted the 60 days for visit wife without knowing about it. Thanks again!

[AaronIsaan]

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

1 - Yes, you have the option to extend the Permission to stay of a Visa Exempt entry or a Tourist Visa entry with a 30-day extension.  This can be done once per entry, costs 1.900,- THB (like any extension) and is delivered on the spot, with the additional 30 days added to the expiry date of the Permission to stay you received on entering Thailand.  So no need to wait till end of that Permission to stay to apply for the 30-day extension. 

2 - You friend, will have applied for the 60-day extension of stay for reason of 'visiting his wife'.  This can be done once for any entry, costs 1.900,- THB but requires a copy of the original marriage certificate and a recent Kor-Ror-2 (excerpt from the Thai national marriage register which can be gotten from ANY Thai amphur, providing evidence that you are still registered as married to a Thai national, and that Kor-Ror-2 costs between 20 and 100 TB).  His Thai wife needs to accompany him when applying for that 60-day extension for reason of marriage.

Note that you friend could have applied first for the 'regular' 30-day extension (when he entered VisaExempt or on a Tourist Visa) and then for the 60-day extension for reason of marriage.  But not all Thai Imm offices allow to do it in 'reverse order'.

Thanks for your complete information!

[MaiDong]

On 1/16/2024 at 2:38 AM, Red Phoenix said:

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When you entered Thailand with a stil valid 1-year Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa, you will be stamped in by border-immigration with a Permission to stay for 90 days.  It would be difficult to 'loose track' on that one, as the expiry date of that Permission to stay is stamped in your Passport.  And at the end of the 90 days you have 2 options:

- Apply in the final days of that 90-day Permission to stay at your local Imm Office for a 60-day extension of stay for visiting your wife (requirements are addressed in previous posts in this thread);

- Exit Thailand latest on last day of that Permission to stay, and either returning when the 1-year ME Non Imm O Visa has not expired and is still valid, which will provide you once again with a 90-days Permission to stay;

- Apply for a NEW 1-year MultipleEntry Non Imm O Visa, when he old one has expired (the Thai consulate in Savannakhet being one of the easiest ways to get hold of such NEW Visa - note that they now require proof of +400.000,- THB on a personal Thai bank-account as part of the application requirements.  Failing to do so, they will only provide you with a 90-day Single Entry Non Imm O Visa.

 

Any other recent experiences of being asked to show 400k in the bank for a METV for visiting wife? I hear this every couple of years, but it's never implemented...

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, MaiDong said:

 

Any other recent experiences of being asked to show 400k in the bank for a METV for visiting wife? I hear this every couple of years, but it's never implemented...

 

My post was about a 1-year MultipleEntry Non Imm O Visa, the requirements and extension options of which are totally different than from a MultipleEntry Tourist Visa (METV).

[MaiDong]

8 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

My post was about a 1-year MultipleEntry Non Imm O Visa, the requirements and extension options of which are totally different than from a MultipleEntry Tourist Visa (METV).

 

Sorry, my mistake, I meant a Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa, not a METV.

[Liquorice]

41 minutes ago, MaiDong said:

 

Sorry, my mistake, I meant a Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa, not a METV.

If you mean from the Thai Consulate in Savannahket, then yes, 400K required in a Thai bank account.

[MaiDong]

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

If you mean from the Thai Consulate in Savannahket, then yes, 400K required in a Thai bank account.

 

Is this a mew requirement? I obtained my last Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa at the Thai Consulate in Savannahket last July, it wasn't required then.

[Rob Browder]

55 minutes ago, MaiDong said:

 

Is this a mew requirement? I obtained my last Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa at the Thai Consulate in Savannahket last July, it wasn't required then.

Yes, it is new - as of a few months now. 

[Liquorice]

1 hour ago, MaiDong said:

 

Is this a mew requirement? I obtained my last Multiple Entry Non Imm O Visa at the Thai Consulate in Savannahket last July, it wasn't required then.

Yes, plenty of topics covered the change.

Only the single entry Non Imm O available now without proof of funds.

[bkkexplorer]

Please confirm if this is possible..

 

My spouse O visa expires on Jan 25th 2025. The 2 month requirement for funds in the bank has not been met. I should be able to raise the funds before Jan 25th 2025. My question is... Is it possible to have the funds in the bank just before the 25th Jan, get a 60 day extension at CW based of marriage visa and return to CW on the 25th March (or just before it expires), and apply for the yearly spouse O visa extension?

 

Thanks.

 

 

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

My question is... Is it possible to have the funds in the bank just before the 25th Jan, get a 60 day extension at CW based of marriage visa and return to CW on the 25th March (or just before it expires), and apply for the yearly spouse O visa extension?

If you have not previously used your 60 day extension to visit wife then yes that's possible.

Wife will need attend immigration. .

[bkkexplorer]

30 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

If you have not previously used your 60 day extension to visit wife then yes that's possible.

Wife will need attend immigration. .

I've not previously used it on the current visa approved on 1st April 2023 which expires on 25th Jan 2024.  So I can do it this way? Sounds like it. Thank you DrJack for your input, it's much appreciated.

[DrJack54]

10 hours ago, bkkexplorer said:

I've not previously used it on the current visa approved on 1st April 2023 which expires on 25th Jan 2024. 

It would seem you obtained a multiple entry visa based on marriage. ME Non O. 

If that's the case you can exit Thailand and if reenter prior to Jan 25 you will be stamped in for 90 days.

 

[bkkexplorer]

41 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It would seem you obtained a multiple entry visa based on marriage. ME Non O. 

If that's the case you can exit Thailand and if reenter prior to Jan 25 you will be stamped in for 90 days.

 

I think if they give me 90 days it's not going to be under the marriage visa anymore. I would have to go through the re application process again which I prefer not to.

 

Just re checked my passport, I didn't to mention earlier, the thai wife visa was issued on 24th Jan 2024 and expires on 25th Jan 2025. In March 2024 I applied for a single re entry, left the kingdom and came back on 1st April 2024. Upon entry the IO stamped a NON visa valid from 1st April 2024 to 25th Jan 2025. Came through Suvhanabhum both ways.

 

I'd prefer not to leave Thailand. Could I still do the 2 month wife extension (from 25th Jan - 25th March) and later the marriage visa renewal (with funds banked in before Jan25th) based on the current situation?

 

Or any other suggestion within same timings of funds and not leaving Thailand.

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

Just re checked my passport, I didn't to mention earlier, the thai wife visa was issued on 24th Jan 2024 and expires on 25th Jan 2025.

The visa you refer to as "Thai wife Visa" 

What visa do you have. 

Thinking a multiple entry non O based on marriage.

Where did you obtain the visa? 

[bkkexplorer]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The visa you refer to as "Thai wife Visa" 

What visa do you have. 

Thinking a multiple entry non O based on marriage.

Where did you obtain the visa? 

Thai wife visa issued at CW. yes, a non O from my understanding. yes, based on marriage.

 

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

Thai wife visa issued at CW. yes, a non O from my understanding. yes, based on marriage.

 

A Non O obtained inside Bangkok is visa providing a 90 day stamp.

Most folk would then apply for a 12 month extension in the last 30 days of the 90 day stamp.

That would require 400k in Thai bank account in your name only and seasoned for 2 months OR monthly transfers of 40k.

Some folk need more time to organize the funds and that is the other extension available to a non O is 60 day extension to visit wife. 

To exit Thailand and reenter you would need to obtain a Reentry Permit. Single or multiple.

 

[bkkexplorer]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

A Non O obtained inside Bangkok is visa providing a 90 day stamp.

Most folk would then apply for a 12 month extension in the last 30 days of the 90 day stamp.

That would require 400k in Thai bank account in your name only and seasoned for 2 months OR monthly transfers of 40k.

Some folk need more time to organize the funds and that is the other extension available to a non O is 60 day extension to visit wife. 

To exit Thailand and reenter you would need to obtain a Reentry Permit. Single or multiple.

 

I'm using the term Non O Spouse visa and marriage visa the same? I'm assuming it is. I'm talking about the yearly visa.

 

This is my fourth straight year with extensions on the marriage visa. As I couldn't raise the funds in time recently, I'm looking for options.  If I understand correctly, I can request a 60 day extension before the 25th Jan. The part I'm unsure is if I they allow the extended time to proof funds in the bank. If done this way there is no need to leave Thailand.

 

Am i getting this right?

 

 

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

This is my fourth straight year with extensions on the marriage visa

It sounds like playing semantics however....the visa is not extended.

It was used long ago. 

You have been extending your permission of stay every 12 months.

13 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

If I understand correctly, I can request a 60 day extension before the 25th Jan. The part I'm unsure is if I they allow the extended time to proof funds in the bank. If done this way there is no need to leave Thailand.

Correct.

Provided you have not previously used the 60 day extension to visit wife then you can do that prior to Jan 25. 

 

Here is old thread however still applies. ubonjoe first reply points out wife must accompany you and what's required.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1130123-re-60-day-extension-to-visit-your-wife/

 

[bkkexplorer]

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Here is old thread however still applies. ubonjoe first reply points out wife must accompany you and what's required.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1130123-re-60-day-extension-to-visit-your-wife/

 

Thanks for the link, I got the 60 day extension covered. Now wanting confirmation that I can start the funds in bank process while on it. You been a great help. thanks again.

 

 

[DrJack54]

16 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

Now wanting confirmation that I can start the funds in bank process while on it.

Yes you can.