School management told to explain slapping incident

[Nick Carter icp]

15 minutes ago, marin said:

No we did not. I find the idea abhorrent, and when my kids  were in Thai school I have confronted teachers who tried to apply this method. A big reason I put my kids in an international school for high school, and then to university in America. I did choose a British International school, and no there was no corporal punishment there for any students from kindergarten through A levels. 

I thought that getting canned was part of the British Public school  education curriculum , don't all the pupils bend over and get the slipper or Cane  on a Friday afternoon before home time ?

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I thought that getting canned was part of the British Public school  education curriculum , don't all the pupils bend over and get the slipper or Cane  on a Friday afternoon before home time ?

When I started as a Brit school teacher, in the early 1980s, hitting a kid was a sacking offence.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Fuss over a little tap. Kids need to harden up these days. 

My grade 3 teacher used to use a ruler on me.

By the time grade 6 came around it was the cane from the head master.

Given the distorted moral geography of many of your comments I'd wonder if your teachers used  anything more damaging than a ruler - something hard and heavy to the head perhaps, because there is clear indications of lasting damage.

 

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Builds character.

No it doesn't - it builds people who learn to use physical violence to get what they want.

 

1 hour ago, Goat said:

And just look how good I turned out.

Obviously trolling then !

 

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Boys especially need a good whack to keep them in line. Otherwise they wont listen.

Ridiculous - good teachers and good schools don't need to result to hitting children to maintain discipline. 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

47 minutes ago, retarius said:

Oh get off your stupid high horse. Virtue signalling. We all went to schools with corporal punishment and I doubt that it did us much harm.

Are you going to tell the legal system to get off its high horse too ? physical punishment is illegal, even in Thailand. 

 

So Boomer... you may have attended school in the days of the cane and corporal punishment, but that was a long time ago and society has evolved.

Corporal punishment was banned in the UK in 1986 and in States in the US between 1974-1994.

 

Your attitudes are well out of date - IF such behavior did no harm why are such actions now illegal in all civilised nations ???

 

IF you believe it's ok to hit children to get what you want... then it has 'done you harm' as your belief system is fundamentally flawed.

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

42 minutes ago, bob smith said:

1 hour ago, Goat said:

And just look how good I turned out.

a real credit to the human race you are, Goat.

IF ever there were an example of 'how not to.......... 

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

5 out of how many female teachers in Thailand?

Female techers strongly dominate the profession at all levels.

[mrwebb8825]

I know a few foreign English teachers that can't speak English any better than some on here. ????

 

Bob, so the rumors are NOT true?? You DON'T dress the misses up in a schoolgirl outfit, slap her on the butt and make her call you "Daddy"? ????

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I go cycling with a retired Thai English teacher, 40 years teaching English, can't speak 1 word of English.

My daughter (native English speaker) was failed 1 year by her English teacher because my kid speaks English, and the teacher didn't.

Ex GF (Way back) was a TG flight attendant, fluent English. 

The TG staff had to attend 'English Classes' held by Thai Airways - the teacher was unable to string a sentence together. 

My ex got into an argument with the teacher who was teaching them incorrectly. 

... Ex gave me a call and I could hear the teacher in the background he could hardly string a phrase together, however, he insisted he was correct.

Serious loss of face - the teacher just got angrier...

I heard the class as they were forced to repeat his 'incorrect rote phrases'...

 

Of course, most of the class knew he was wrong, but that mattered little - he was the teacher and to be respected, any hint of question was disrespect.

 

 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, bob smith said:

im going off the law of averages. 

 

I know 5 teachers. each of them hit students, use rote learning, can't control class without the threat of physical force and some even use the cane.

They often brag about what they do over som tum when they get together with mrs smith.

 

5 bad teachers vs 0 good teachers that I know.

 

The score is 5-0 in favor of bad.

The law of averages is meaningless in your response as nothing to compare it with.

 

I know more than 5 poor Thais. Does that make all Thais poor. According to your law of averages, the answer would be yes.

 

If I knew 5 rich Thais. Would that that make all Thais rich. According to your law of averages, the answer would also be yes.

 

Obviously both of those statements are wrong because there is nothing to compare them with.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

IMO... the headline already highlights part of the issue... 

 

"School management told to explain slapping incident"

 

We should be reading... "School management sack teacher for slapping incident" 

[bob smith]

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

IMO... the headline already highlights part of the issue... 

 

"School management told to explain slapping incident"

 

We should be reading... "School management sack teacher for slapping incident" 

exactly!!

 

but TIT

[Deserted]

At least she didn't want to sleep with him.

[Emdog]

On 9/29/2023 at 6:33 PM, billd766 said:

The law of averages is meaningless in your response as nothing to compare it with.

 

I know more than 5 poor Thais. Does that make all Thais poor. According to your law of averages, the answer would be yes.

 

If I knew 5 rich Thais. Would that that make all Thais rich. According to your law of averages, the answer would also be yes.

 

Obviously both of those statements are wrong because there is nothing to compare them with.

 

 

agree.. plus no "law of averages" applies because the numbers cited are from a statistically  insignificant sized sample (5? did author study any math?) and even that miniscule group was not a randomly chosen group.... just people he knew in one geographic area.

[richard_smith237]

On 10/1/2023 at 6:00 AM, Emdog said:

agree.. plus no "law of averages" applies because the numbers cited are from a statistically  insignificant sized sample (5? did author study any math?) and even that miniscule group was not a randomly chosen group.... just people he knew in one geographic area.

Does that mean you think the standards of English Teaching in Thailand in Government schools is high ?...

 

Are there any Thai Government Schools where the English Teacher has a native standard of English ?... even a high standard ?

 

Should we start with passable and work upwards to answer this question ?

 

 

[Emdog]

16 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Does that mean you think the standards of English Teaching in Thailand in Government schools is high ?...

 

Are there any Thai Government Schools where the English Teacher has a native standard of English ?... even a high standard ?

 

Should we start with passable and work upwards to answer this question ?

 

 

Reading comprehension work needed here, Richard: I was writing about the erroneous use of "law of averages".... nothing about effectiveness (or lack of) regarding time spent on English ("teaching" may be a bit too charitable). Go back and read my post.

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Emdog said:

Reading comprehension work needed here, Richard: I was writing about the erroneous use of "law of averages".... nothing about effectiveness (or lack of) regarding time spent on English ("teaching" may be a bit too charitable). Go back and read my post.

Understood - perhaps the word ‘generalisation is better than the phrase ‘law of averages’….

 

There is an overlap & the point remains valid without the semantics.