Hardline Republicans seek to oust House Speaker Kevin McCarthy

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A hardline Republican says he will seek to oust House Speaker Kevin McCarthy this week, after he pushed through a last-minute spending bill with support from the opposition Democrats.

Mr McCarthy submitted the bill - aimed at averting a government shutdown - in defiance of the right of his party.

They had already vowed to topple him if he tried to overcome their opposition with Democratic support.

Hardline Republicans in both houses of Congress voted against the motion.

Republicans control the House of Representatives, with Democrats enjoying a wafer-thin majority in the Senate.

On Sunday, Rep Matt Gaetz vowed to oust Mr McCarthy, telling the CNN that House Republicans needed "trustworthy" leadership.

 

"I do intend to file a motion to vacate against Speaker McCarthy this week," said Mr Gaetz, long a vocal critic of the Californian congressman. "I think we need to move on with new leadership that can be trustworthy."

The Florida Congressman, who is among the party's most right-wing members and a keen ally of former President Donald Trump, has been threatening to force a vote on Mr McCarthy's future for weeks.

Along with other hard-right Republicans in the so-called Freedom Caucus, Mr Gaetz refused to back successive budgets proposed by Mr McCarthy, insisting on heavy spending cuts and an end to new military aid to Ukraine.

 

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[Chomper Higgot]

I don’t see any reason to suggest the Republicans should not go ahead with ripping their party apart, but really:

 

“On Sunday, Rep Matt Gaetz vowed to oust Mr McCarthy, telling the CNN that House Republicans needed "trustworthy" leadership.”

 

What on earth does anyone think Matt Gaetz knows about ‘trustworthiness’?

 

‘Matt Gaetz’ and ‘Trustworthy’ in the same sentence is an indication of just how far the GOP has fallen.

 

 

[Berkshire]

McCarthy is actually trying to govern, but the right wing nutters won't let him.  Just think about it, Gaetz wants McCarthy out because he engineered a bi-partisan deal which prevented a government shutdown.  That's what a Speaker is supposed to do.  Doesn't matter, Gaetz will fail in his quest.  Why?  Because nobody who's anybody wants that job.     

[Tug]

25 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

McCarthy is actually trying to govern, but the right wing nutters won't let him.  Just think about it, Gaetz wants McCarthy out because he engineered a bi-partisan deal which prevented a government shutdown.  That's what a Speaker is supposed to do.  Doesn't matter, Gaetz will fail in his quest.  Why?  Because nobody who's anybody wants that job.     

Here’s a scary thought lol ???? want to kill the magganuts ok start working in a bipartisan manner stop the tribalism differ on principle and methodologies but work together for the common good of the country if McCarthy proposed reasonable legislation then he receives democratic support rendering the magganuts powerless it’s how it’s supposed to work!the Republican voter base will vote Republican regardless if they disappoint trump 

[bendejo]

Meanwhile,

House Republicans Reportedly Looking to Expel Gaetz By Using Findings from Upcoming Ethics Report: ‘No One Can Stand Him’

 

I have to admit I do enjoy the way the post-Gingrich conservatives hate each other, the wackier their stance the more hateful they get.  The pols, the wonks, the pundits, they are like battling rats.  My fave: Limbaugh used to say of O'Reilly "he's Ted Baxter."  And then there's the MAGA gals  . . .

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by bendejo

[stevenl]

11 hours ago, Berkshire said:

McCarthy is actually trying to govern, but the right wing nutters won't let him.  Just think about it, Gaetz wants McCarthy out because he engineered a bi-partisan deal which prevented a government shutdown.  That's what a Speaker is supposed to do.  Doesn't matter, Gaetz will fail in his quest.  Why?  Because nobody who's anybody wants that job.     

Why do you think he'll fail? There will be part of the democrats supporting McCarthy, but how many will keep supporting him if Gaetz calls for a vote on the speaker for the upteenth time?

[Berkshire]

11 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why do you think he'll fail? There will be part of the democrats supporting McCarthy, but how many will keep supporting him if Gaetz calls for a vote on the speaker for the upteenth time?

Because Gaetz doesn't have an alternative who can garner the necessary support.  Heck, it took McCarthy 15 tries to get the speakership in the first place.  Even if he gets ousted, he could put his name back in the hat.  Who else can get more votes? 

[heybruce]

We need a functioning House of Representatives to get things done.  If it weren't for that unfortunate fact I would enjoy watching the Republicans self-destruct.

[Eric Loh]

8 minutes ago, heybruce said:

We need a functioning House of Representatives to get things done.  If it weren't for that unfortunate fact I would enjoy watching the Republicans self-destruct.

If the House is made redundant, it will mean a stalling of the Biden fake impeachment enquiry. No subpoena and no power to call any government officials or expert witness. Kind of shooting themselves on the foot. Hilarious to watch this s..show happening but you right, it will hurt the people. 

[Eric Loh]

39 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Because Gaetz doesn't have an alternative who can garner the necessary support.  Heck, it took McCarthy 15 tries to get the speakership in the first place.  Even if he gets ousted, he could put his name back in the hat.  Who else can get more votes? 

End of the day, baby Gaetz will most likely be the biggest loser. House Ethics Committee will revive Gaetz probe and force him out. He is the most hated man in GOP. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Just seen on Al Jazeera. McCarthy is out. Removed by a small margin in the vote.

Probably have a caretaker speaker now, till a permanent one can be elected.

 

Seems that a majority believe that he wasn't doing a good job.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/2/2023 at 4:15 PM, Berkshire said:

McCarthy is actually trying to govern, but the right wing nutters won't let him.  Just think about it, Gaetz wants McCarthy out because he engineered a bi-partisan deal which prevented a government shutdown.  That's what a Speaker is supposed to do.  Doesn't matter, Gaetz will fail in his quest.  Why?  Because nobody who's anybody wants that job.     

You might want to trade in your crystal ball. You are wrong, Gaetz won. McCarthy is out.

[Jingthing]

Republicans can't govern. 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Republicans can't govern. 

Can you elaborate on that somewhat pointless comment?

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can you elaborate on that somewhat pointless comment?

They do performance art instead.

Putin must be popping some champagne now.

 

Republicans can't govern, so they resort to cynical stunts - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

They do performance art instead.

Putin must be popping some champagne now.

 

Republicans can't govern, so they resort to cynical stunts - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

I can't disagree with you, but that's by no means restricted to the Republicans.

 

I have difficulty in finding any government that is doing a good job in these crazy days.

[Tug]

16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can't disagree with you, but that's by no means restricted to the Republicans.

 

I have difficulty in finding any government that is doing a good job in these crazy days.

Really?infrastructure,domestic manufacturing of computer chips lowering drug prices getting a handle on inflation seeding renewable energy sources standing tall for unions humiliating Putin without costing American lives and supporting the Ukrainians in their fight for survival the rebirth of nato and more high quality members.I know you disagree with most of this that’s your right that beeing said those are good solid positive things that this administration has accomplished I’d call that outstanding especially in theses fraught times.republicans bring chaos these days at the behest of you know who it’s sad I used to vote Republican not anymore 

[kwonitoy]

ANNND, he's gone, Kevin McCarthy voted out as speaker

 

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/matt-gaetz-kevin-mccarthy-house-speakership-10-03-23/index.html

 

Now sit back with some popcorn to watch the madness of trying to get a new speaker of the house representing the maladjusted republican party.  ????

Edited October 3, 2023 by kwonitoy

[MrMojoRisin]

Typical right wing nut job standard operating procedure - if you can’t get everything your own way all the time, blow up the entire system.

 

Unfortunately, the only ones able to defeat these right wing extremist f-wits within the Republican Party are even more extreme right wing f-wits.

 

Is Joe Biden too old and senile to win the next election…., I now think Joe could drop dead tomorrow and the Democrats could play “Weekend at Bernie’s” with his rotting corpse and, given the current MAGA cult lunacy on the right, Joe would win in a landslide.

 

It is looking seriously likely that there will eventually be an attempt at a coup in the US that will test the resiliency of their institutions and their fabled “we the people” constitution.

 

On the bright side, Prayuth might be able to score a consultancy gig.

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 10/2/2023 at 10:15 AM, Berkshire said:

McCarthy is actually trying to govern, but the right wing nutters won't let him.  Just think about it, Gaetz wants McCarthy out because he engineered a bi-partisan deal which prevented a government shutdown.  That's what a Speaker is supposed to do.  Doesn't matter, Gaetz will fail in his quest.  Why?  Because nobody who's anybody wants that job.     

This just in... you didn't know as much as you think... House votes to remove McCarthy as speaker in historic first

[Skipalongcassidy]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Republicans can't govern. 

And yet red cities and states have fewer problems... go figure.

[Berkshire]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You might want to trade in your crystal ball. You are wrong, Gaetz won. McCarthy is out.

 

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

This just in... you didn't know as much as you think... House votes to remove McCarthy as speaker in historic first

Yeah, I stand corrected.  I honestly believed that McCarthy would have a bag of tricks up his sleeve as Speaker to fend off Gaetz.  But he didn't.  And I also thought he would run again but he won't.  Which makes it a total mess for the GOP House conference.  At least the government isn't shutdown.  But the Congress is. 

[GypsyT]

Never voted for Republicans but still sad what a mess they are in.

The whole US suffers....

There's no hope.

I guess I keep commuting between 4 continents till I die.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

And yet red cities and states have fewer problems... go figure.

Sorry mate. That's not true. Snippet facts that can easily be goggled will tell you that red states have more problems relating to gun deaths, murder rates (8 of the top 10 murder states are red states) and blue states enjoyed higher economic growth rates on average than red states. By the way, red states are benefiting from Bidenomics. 

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

And yet red cities and states have fewer problems... go figure.

Care to elaborate?

 

As far as I am aware:

 

9 of the 10 poorest states are red.

 

8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are red.

 

10 of the 10 states with the worst education outcomes are red.

 

9 of the 10 states with the lowest life expectancy are red.

 

Covid deaths were 38% higher per capita in red states compared to blue states.

 

I am curious as to which problems you are referring to when you say “fewer problems”.

 

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[retarius]

This has made my day. McCarthy, the swamp dwelling, promise breaker, was ousted yesterday by Matt Gaetz motion. Great news. Now maybe we can have a Congress that focusses on spending money on sealing the borders, on helping poor Americans and using the money that Biden send to Ukraine to be stolen to do the tasks that needs doing at home. Yippee, yippee.

[retarius]

On 10/2/2023 at 10:15 AM, Berkshire said:

McCarthy is actually trying to govern, but the right wing nutters won't let him.  Just think about it, Gaetz wants McCarthy out because he engineered a bi-partisan deal which prevented a government shutdown.  That's what a Speaker is supposed to do.  Doesn't matter, Gaetz will fail in his quest.  Why?  Because nobody who's anybody wants that job.     

Lies. The issue is what the money is spent on, not trying to govern. Whether to spend the money on Americans, securing the Southern border and on poorer Americans which is what Gaetz wants it spent on; or spending it on more money to be send to Ukraine to prolong the unwindable war. I'm with Gaetz 100%. And by the way, you lost, McCarthy is out already.

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, retarius said:

Lies. The issue is what the money is spent on, not trying to govern. Whether to spend the money on Americans, securing the Southern border and on poorer Americans which is what Gaetz wants it spent on; or spending it on more money to be send to Ukraine to prolong the unwindable war. I'm with Gaetz 100%. And by the way, you lost, McCarthy is out already.

Since when do Republicans want to spend money on American people?

 

The Republicans 40 years of tax cuts for the rich in the name of trickle down economics has all but destroyed the middle class by the massive upwards transfer of wealth.

 

Abortion, genderism, the border and funding of the Ukraine war are all irrelevant sideshows that distract braindead right wing nutters whilst the grifters they elect rob them blind.

 

Introduce an IQ test to be eligible to vote and the Republicans would never win anything ever again.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Berkshire said:

 

Yeah, I stand corrected.  I honestly believed that McCarthy would have a bag of tricks up his sleeve as Speaker to fend off Gaetz.  But he didn't.  And I also thought he would run again but he won't.  Which makes it a total mess for the GOP House conference.  At least the government isn't shutdown.  But the Congress is. 

IMO congress is such a joke, on both sides, that it might be better if they are shutdown for a while.

Have they achieved anything much since the election?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, retarius said:

Lies. The issue is what the money is spent on, not trying to govern. Whether to spend the money on Americans, securing the Southern border and on poorer Americans which is what Gaetz wants it spent on; or spending it on more money to be send to Ukraine to prolong the unwindable war. I'm with Gaetz 100%. And by the way, you lost, McCarthy is out already.

If that is really what Gaetz wants, then the right man won. The sooner the US stops fighting to the last Ukrainian the better IMO.