Giuliani sues Biden for defamation over ‘Russian pawn’ remark

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Rudy Giuliani sued President Biden for defamation Wednesday over his comments calling the former New York City mayor a “Russian pawn” during a 2020 presidential debate.

The 16-page lawsuit, filed in New Hampshire state court, names Biden, his campaign and several fundraising committees as defendants, taking aim at two statements Biden made during the final presidential debate against former President Trump on Oct. 22, 2020.

 

In the first statement, Biden was answering a question about combating foreign election interference when, after some hesitation, he mentioned Giuliani.

“Well I won’t get — I shouldn’t — well, I will,” Biden said.

“His buddy, Rudy Giuliani,” Biden continued, referring to the close Trump ally. “He’s being used as a Russian pawn. He is being fed information that is Russian — that is not true.”

Giuliani’s lawsuit alleges the statement “falsely claimed and depicted the Plaintiff to our nation as a liar.”

Later in the debate, after Trump mentioned the “laptop from hell,” referring to the infamous Hunter Biden laptop story that had surfaced days earlier, then-candidate Biden insisted to the moderator that he needed to respond to the reference about his son.

“Look, there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this, he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan,” Biden said at the debate.

 

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[Tug]

Calling Giuliani a lier well……yea that fits to a t as far as beeing a Russian tool fits as well in the sense of the useful imbecile to the Russians

[Danderman123]

Guiliani will not make it through discovery.

[JonnyF]

Biden has told so many lies it's really difficult to keep up with them all.

 

However, lying about someone and claiming they are a "Russian pawn" is a dangerous game, unless he has evidence to back it up. I wonder if we'll get another hardcore liberal adjudicating on this one? Joe better hope so...

[JonnyF]

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

Calling Giuliani a lier well……yea that fits to a t as far as beeing a Russian tool fits as well in the sense of the useful imbecile to the Russians

Because Joe never lies.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/11/politics/fact-check-biden-ground-zero-next-day/index.html

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Because Joe never lies.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/11/politics/fact-check-biden-ground-zero-next-day/index.html

 

No, because ‘Discovery’ would open Giuliani and release the stench around him.

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45 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Because Joe never lies.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/11/politics/fact-check-biden-ground-zero-next-day/index.html

 

Yes everyone lies. But not anyone does it close to the frequency of Donald Trump. And not just that. Many of Trump's lies are particularly nasty inslults.. Not a common practice among most people including politicians.

[JonnyF]

36 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Yes everyone lies. But not anyone does it close to the frequency of Donald Trump. And not just that. Many of Trump's lies are particularly nasty inslults.. Not a common practice among most people including politicians.

Trump is off topic.

 

There are plenty of Trump threads available to satiate your hatred of the man.

[Jingthing]

Perhaps "Russi" doth protest too much. In any case he has no credibility.

[bendejo]

Maybe this is a puppet show for those he owes $$$ to:

Q: When we getting the money, Rudy?

A: I'm waiting for this Biden suit to pay off

 

[placeholder]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Trump is off topic.

 

There are plenty of Trump threads available to satiate your hatred of the man.

Once again making mindreading comments.

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

Rudy Giuliani sued President Biden for defamation Wednesday over his comments calling the former New York City mayor a “Russian pawn” during a 2020 presidential debate.

Is this the same Giuliani who had his license to practice law in New York suspended for making “demonstrably false and misleading statements?

 

Or the same Giuliani who in an interview about the Mueller report and acting as President Trump’s personal attorney, distorted the facts in repeatedly making the case that there was “no obstruction” by Trump?

 

Or perhaps the same Giuliani who made a false claim about the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya and Trump campaign officials?

 

The list goes on............

[JonnyF]

32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Once again making mindreading comments.

 

I don't need to read minds when you post your drivel at such a rate.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Biden has told so many lies it's really difficult to keep up with them all.

 

However, lying about someone and claiming they are a "Russian pawn" is a dangerous game, unless he has evidence to back it up. I wonder if we'll get another hardcore liberal adjudicating on this one? Joe better hope so...

This is too easy.....

 

Lev Parnas, a onetime associate of former Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, used $100,000 from a wealthy Russian businessman to make illegal donations to U.S. politicians, a federal prosecutor said on Wednesday.  Parnas used the funds to “grease the wheels” to help the businessman, Andrey Muraviev, obtain licenses to operate legal cannabis companies in the United States, Assistant U.S. Attorney Aline Flodr said in her opening argument in Parnas’ trial on charges of violating campaign finance laws.

 

Prosecutors say Lev Parnas hid $1 million payment from Russia

 

 

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

This is too easy.....

 

Lev Parnas, a onetime associate of former Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, used $100,000 from a wealthy Russian businessman to make illegal donations to U.S. politicians, a federal prosecutor said on Wednesday.  Parnas used the funds to “grease the wheels” to help the businessman, Andrey Muraviev, obtain licenses to operate legal cannabis companies in the United States, Assistant U.S. Attorney Aline Flodr said in her opening argument in Parnas’ trial on charges of violating campaign finance laws.

 

Prosecutors say Lev Parnas hid $1 million payment from Russia

 

 

Prosecuters often make allegations against the accused.

 

Not exactly groundbreaking stuff.????

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Prosecuters often make allegations against the accused.

 

Not exactly groundbreaking stuff.????

Giuliani’s former Ukraine fixer gets 20 months in prison

 

As I wrote, this is too easy.

 

You clearly don't know the connections between Rudy and Russia.

 

If Rudy has to give a deposition, they will ask him question that will force him to take the Fifth.

[impulse]

Interesting choice of venue...  New Hampshire.

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Trump is off topic.

 

There are plenty of Trump threads available to satiate your hatred of the man.

Giuliani lied on behalf of Trump! ????

[candide]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Biden has told so many lies it's really difficult to keep up with them all.

 

However, lying about someone and claiming they are a "Russian pawn" is a dangerous game, unless he has evidence to back it up. I wonder if we'll get another hardcore liberal adjudicating on this one? Joe better hope so...

Never heard of Derkach? ????

Trump's personal attorney Giuliani meets with Ukrainian MP Derkach in Kyiv (Photo)

They discussed the creation of an inter-parliamentary group, 'Friends of Ukraine STOP Corruption.'

https://www.unian.info/politics/10782149-trump-s-personal-attorney-giuliani-meets-with-ukrainian-mp-derkach-in-kyiv-photo.html

 

Treasury sanctions Ukrainian lawmaker who met with Giuliani to smear Biden

Andriy Derkach, a pro-Russian Ukrainian, has promoted discredited allegations against the Democratic presidential nominee.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/10/treasury-designates-anti-biden-ukrainian-lawmaker-for-sanctions-for-election-interference-411750

 

Zelenskiy Strips Citizenship Of Four Ukrainian Lawmakers, Including Putin Friend Medvedchuk

Derkach has been a Ukrainian legislator for more than two decades, but investigators believe he received more than half a million dollars from Russian law enforcement and intelligence agencies "for subversive activities against Ukraine during 2019-2022." He has not attended a parliamentary session since February.

Medvedchuk, a longtime Ukrainian political fixture to whose daughter Russian President Vladimir Putin is reportedly godfather, was detained in April and handed over to Russia in a prisoner exchange in September.

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-citizenship-medvedchuk-derkach/32218343.html

 

[bamnutsak]

Giuliani is a Russian Stooge.

 

He has a long way to go to make it to Pawn.

 

He's doing the descent into the full Roy Cohn. It will end the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Berkshire]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Biden has told so many lies it's really difficult to keep up with them all.

 

However, lying about someone and claiming they are a "Russian pawn" is a dangerous game, unless he has evidence to back it up. I wonder if we'll get another hardcore liberal adjudicating on this one? Joe better hope so...

Maybe Biden should have called Rudy "Putin's useful idiot."  Better?

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The list goes on............

The same Giuliani that is the only person to attempt to corroborate DT's claim that there were tailgate parties in New Jersey on 9/11 to celebrate the attack.  DT didn't seek him out, Rudy sort of sidled his way into the cabal.

 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Giuliani’s former Ukraine fixer gets 20 months in prison

 

As I wrote, this is too easy.

 

You clearly don't know the connections between Rudy and Russia.

 

If Rudy has to give a deposition, they will ask him question that will force him to take the Fifth.

Doesn't prove Guiliani is guilty.

 

I have friends that went to prison. Doesn't make me guilty of anything.

 

It would appear this isn't as easy as you thought ????

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Doesn't prove Guiliani is guilty.

 

I have friends that went to prison. Doesn't make me guilty of anything.

 

It would appear this isn't as easy as you thought ????

You are clearly posting while ignorant of the facts.

 

Lev Parnas was Guiliani's contact with the Russians, and is willing to testify about Guiliani's activities with Russians.

 

That's why Guiliani's threat to sue Biden is a non-starter. Right now, DOJ hasn't bothered to go after Guiliani for his "work" with the Russians, but if it is disclosed in court, then they will have no choice.

 

So, it's unlikely that Guiliani will file his lawsuit, and less likely he goes through discovery.

Edited October 5, 2023 by Danderman123

[RanongCat]

Wording distinction: Used as a pawn vs he is a pawn. Bye .

[Tug]

11 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Wording distinction: Used as a pawn vs he is a pawn. Bye .

I prefer useful idiot or better yet useful imbecile.the thought of Rudy with knowledge before hand willfully committing fraud on behalf of Vladimir putin is extremely disturbing im going to give him the benefit of the doubt and go with senile imbecile 

[candide]

Ooops! I forgot Giuliani's involvement in promoting the ridiculous 'Crowdstrike is Unkrainian' conspiracy theory! ????

 

Senators briefed that CrowdStrike theory is Russian-backed disinformation campaign

https://www.axios.com/2019/11/22/ukraine-election-meddling-briefing-conspiracy-russia

 

Even his pals warned him

Lindsey Graham warns Giuliani to make sure Ukraine dirt isn't Russian propaganda

https://www.axios.com/2019/12/29/graham-giuliani-ukraine-russian-propaganda

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10 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I don't need to read minds when you post your drivel at such a rate.

Another empty insult.

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I don't need to read minds when you post your drivel at such a rate.

Maybe Rudy should sue the Washington Post first:

 

"White House was warned Giuliani was target of Russian intelligence operation to feed misinformation to Trump"

[EVENKEEL]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

Once again making mindreading comments.

 

So, you have nothing.