John Drake Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Danny Australia said: I know it's hard to convince ideological Zinonist of anything that does not match their twisted belief, but I will try. As of this morning, out of a total 2,215 killed since last Saturday, 724 of them are Palestinian children and 458 are women. Another 8714 were injured. These figures are a proof that your criminal entity Israel is in fact targeting women and children. Criminals of the Israeli army must have known that levelling a residential tower would inevitably lead to loss of lives among civilians, not rocket science. Now go on and ask for sources and links and photos to dilute facts. Pathetic So, Jackson Hinkle has taken out an account on AseanNow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talahtnut Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Western politicians are more than happy with the war crimes, not just for Israel’s sake but for their own too because one day in the future, their own populations may be as much trouble to them as Palestinians in Gaza are to Israel right now. Be careful what you support, what goes around comes round. Edited October 16, 2023 by talahtnut addition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, talahtnut said: Western politicians are more than happy with the war crimes, not just for Israel’s sake but for their own too because one day in the future, their own populations may be as much trouble to them as Palestinians in Gaza are to Israel right now. Be careful what you support, what goes around comes round. Conspiracy theory silliness strikes again. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: What is facing the world is the utter "Bun Fight" with predominantly civilian casualties being the victim. It has been fomenting since from the inception from the "Zionist Movement" that pressured for the establishment of a "State Nation for Jews" and subsequently acquiesced by the WW2 victorious powers along with the "newly" established UN in the region Palestine. I do not subscribe to any religion, Atrocities, are and have been committed by either side in this latest conflict and will continue to do so. 40 decapitated babies makes a great headline, (debunked). We in the outside world do not really know what is happening on the ground there, minute by minute, Liar. Nobody said 40 babies were decapitated. You're employing Putin style mind bending propaganda. We supposedly "can't know" what's happening, so best to be apolitical and have no position. Edited October 16, 2023 by Jingthing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Jingthing said: Liar. Nobody said 40 babies were decapitated. Refresh yourself with the propaganda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Paul Catton said: Refresh yourself with the propaganda. Doubling down on the lies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Refresh yourself with the propaganda. Unverified reports of '40 babies beheaded' in Israel-Hamas ... NBC News https://www.nbcnews.com › tech › internet › unverified-... 4 days ago — A series of shocking reports have spread horrific claims of baby beheadings by Hamas militants across social and mainstream media in recent days ... What we actually know about the viral report of beheaded ... Sky News https://news.sky.com › story › its-important-to-separat... 4 days ago — What happened at the kibbutz? The Kfar Aza kibbutz is one of several self-contained Israeli settlements close to the Gaza border. More on Israel ... '40 beheaded babies' : How media amplified an ... Middle East Eye · YouTube 187.8K+ views · 4 days ago On Wednesday, the world woke up to newspapers plastered with a horrific headline about '40 babied decapitated by Hamas'. But was the story ... Despite refutations from Israeli military, headlines that ... Anadolu Ajansı https://www.aa.com.tr › middle-east › despite-refutatio... 5 days ago — Despite international journalists and news agencies debunking allegations that Palestinian resistance group Hamas "beheaded babies" in Israel, ... BEHEADED BABIES AND WOMEN FOUND IN KFAR AZA i24NEWS English · YouTube 347.6K+ views · 6 days ago Articles: https://www.i24news.tv/en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/i24newsEN/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN Instagram: ... Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were ... CNN.com https://www.cnn.com › israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl 4 days ago — The Israeli government has not confirmed the specific claim that Hamas attackers cut off the heads of babies during their shock attack on ... Foreign reporters taken to massacre site in Kfar Aza The Times of Israel https://www.timesofisrael.com › israel-takes-foreign-jo... 6 days ago — The IDF took dozens of foreign journalists on Tuesday to see for themselves the death and destruction wrought by Hamas terrorists this week. At least 40 babies killed, beheaded in Israeli kibbutz ... NBC Montana https://nbcmontana.com › news › nation-world › at-le... 6 days ago — Several journalists were let in to the Kfar Aza kibbutz, located just outside the Gaza Strip, to see the aftermath of the attacks by Hamas. At ... Journalist who reported killing of 40 babies by Hamas India Today https://www.indiatoday.in › World › Video 5 days ago — Nicole Zedek, the journalist of i24 News, who reported about 40 babies' beheading by Hamas terrorists, talks about what she witnessed while ... Dehumanization Has Wrought Slate https://slate.com › news-and-politics › 2023/10 › deca... 3 days ago — This week, there was an entire news cycle about the number of decapitated babies. White House walks back Biden's claim he saw children ... Al Jazeera https://www.aljazeera.com › news › 2023/10/12 › whit... 4 days ago — US president spokesperson says comments were based on news reports and claims of Israeli officials. U.S. President Joe Biden participates in a ... Israel releases photos of babies killed by Hamas EFE https://efe.com › latest-news › israel-releases-photos-of... 3 days ago — Israeli authorities on Thursday published explicit photos in response to questions regarding claims that Hamas killed children and babies. Israel Military Won't Confirm “Beheaded Babies” Viral Claim The Intercept https://theintercept.com › israel-hamas-disinformation 5 days ago — The Israel Defense Forces could not confirm a horrific claim that Hamas beheaded babies during a weekend assault, a spokesperson for the ... I wish that it wasn't true: War correspondent stands by ... WION https://www.wionews.com › World 4 days ago — The international war correspondent who initially broke the story of Hamas' alleged beheading of Israeli children is standing by her ... At least 40 babies, some beheaded, found by Israel ... Fox News https://www.foxnews.com › world › 40-babies-some-b... 6 days ago — Israeli soldiers clearing the remains of a village overrun by a surprise attack led by Hamas, a terror group that governs Gaza, ... What We Know About Three Widespread Israel-Hamas ... FactCheck.org https://www.factcheck.org › 2023/10 › what-we-know... Claim: It's not true that "250 people were killed at a concert" in Israel Oct. 7. Claimed by: Social media posts Fact check by FactCheck.org: False Feedback How an Israeli kibbutz 'paradise' turned into hell in Hamas ... Reuters https://www.reuters.com › world › middle-east › bodies-r... 6 days ago — Kfar Aza, just 3 km from the Gaza Strip, was among the communities hit hardest by the Hamas assault on southern Israel, which Israeli officials ... The 'horrendous toll' on children caught in the Israel-Gaza ... ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos https://abcnews.go.com › International › story 5 days ago — Humanitarian organizations decried the impacts of the Israel-Gaza conflict on civilians amid reports of the killing and kidnapping of ... The decapitated babies that no one saw, but someone used EL PAÍS English https://english.elpais.com › International 2 days ago — It was a lie. In fact, an Israeli journalist had reported that the army had found 40 beheaded babies in a kibbutz, an unconfirmed story echoed ... Israeli forces say they've uncovered evidence of brutal ... The Hill https://thehill.com › policy › international › 4248499-... 6 days ago — Officials in the Israeli military say they have uncovered evidence of a bloody assault by Hamas fighters on the village of Kfar Aza that ... Hamas kills 40 babies and children -- beheading some of ... New York Post https://nypost.com › 2023/10/10 › hamas-kills-40-bab... 6 days ago — Hamas terrorists slaughtered at least 40 babies and young children -- decapitating some of them -- at a kibbutz near the Gaza border, ... 'Hamas militants killed, beheaded 40 babies and children ... The Times of India https://m.timesofindia.com › ... › Middle East News 5 days ago — Middle East News: Kfar Aza, situated only 3km away from the Gaza Strip, bore the brunt of the Hamas attack on southern Israel. Hamas 'Beheading Babies': Is There Enough Evidence? Sputnik Afrique https://en.sputniknews.africa › News 5 days ago — On Saturday morning, Palestinian Hamas militants carried out a massive airstrike on Israeli territory which led to a new phase of escalation ... Unverified reports of '40 babies beheaded' in Israel-Hamas ... Yahoo Finance https://finance.yahoo.com › news › unverified-reports... 4 days ago — Editor's note: This story contains graphic descriptions of violent acts that some readers may find disturbing. At Least 40 Babies Killed In Israel-Hamas War: Report NDTV https://www.ndtv.com › World News 6 days ago — In one of the blood-curdling details from the Hamas attack on Israel, at least 40 babies were killed by the terror group, Israel-based i24 ... IDF says it won't back up its claim that Hamas decapitated ... Business Insider https://www.businessinsider.com › idf-says-wont-back... 5 days ago — An IDF spokesperson told Insider that it won't investigate its claim that Hamas decapitated babies. How the media lied about beheaded babies to 'justify' ... Socialist Worker https://socialistworker.co.uk › news › how-the-media-l... 4 days ago — Virtually every British newspaper reported this week that Hamas fighters beheaded 40 babies during the assault last weekend. Were babies found with their heads decapitated in Israel ... Skeptics Stack Exchange https://skeptics.stackexchange.com › questions › were-... 4 days ago — According to the Jerusalem Post: The Jerusalem Post can now confirm based on verified photos of the bodies that the reports of babies being ... Israel-Hamas war: White House retracts Biden's claims on ' ... Business Today https://www.businesstoday.in › LATEST › World 4 days ago — US President Joe Biden on Wednesday said that he has seen 'confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children' following reports that about ... Were Israeli Babies Beheaded by Hamas Militants During ... Snopes https://www.snopes.com › News 3 days ago — Advertisement: The conflict began on Oct. 7, 2023, when the Palestinian militant group Hamas launched a surprise attack on Israel from Gaza ... Biden horrified by gruesome images of children beheaded ... Hindustan Times https://www.hindustantimes.com › world news › us news 4 days ago — Reports suggest up to 40 babies slaughtered by Hamas near Gaza Strip. US President Joe Biden expresses horror at beheading of children by ... Surveying the atrocities committed by Hamas in Kfar Aza I24news https://www.i24news.tv › i24news › Israel at War 6 days ago — Soldiers encounter unimaginable horrors as they remove the bodies of victims, including about 40 babies and small children — some with their ... 40 babies murdered. - Israel ישראל Israel · Twitter 58.8K+ likes 40 babies murdered. Embedded video. 3:09. From. i24NEWS English · 1:10 PM · Oct 10, 2023. ·. 19.4M. Views. 27.6K. Reposts · 6,464. 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Hanaguma Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Doubling down on the lies. Exactly. If I recall, the charge was that 40 babies were murdered in a hospital/medical facility by Hamas terrorists. The exact method of the killing really isn't that important- reports varied on shooting, stabbing, burning, etc. Spending so much time on such a picayune detail only shows the emptiness of the underlying position. "Well, sure Hamas murdered 40 babies, but at least they didn't decapitate ALL of them" is not a great position to defend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Back on topic. IDF now confirms 199 people taken as hostage into Gaza. Rafah crossing remains closed with Hamas and Israel saying there have been no deals done and Egypt wanting safety guarantees before it reopens. So not looking good for those who have been queuing up. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233 The humanitarian crisis is worsening, was reading a report on the BBC last night from one of its reporters who lives in Gaza and had to evacuate along with hundreds of thousand others to south Gaza, a city called Khan Younis. Hamas is there firing rockets into Israel from near the hospital! Using the civilians as human shields. Khan Younis: A Gaza city on its knees, now with a million mouths to feed And it is not as if this city is safe from harm. It is regularly bombed - it is still in a warzone. Collapsed buildings and piles of rubble litter the streets. I heard rocket launches from near the hospital, as Hamas continues to strike inside Israel. That is an open invitation for retaliation. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67116403 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Exactly. If I recall, the charge was that 40 babies were murdered in a hospital/medical facility by Hamas terrorists. The exact method of the killing really isn't that important- reports varied on shooting, stabbing, burning, etc. Spending so much time on such a picayune detail only shows the emptiness of the underlying position. "Well, sure Hamas murdered 40 babies, but at least they didn't decapitate ALL of them" is not a great position to defend. I recall it was the baby / toddler area of one the kibbutzes that the Hamas terrorist scum massacred. In Kibbutzim children are cared for collectively. Yeah I get their perverted game. If they weren't ALL decapitated (which nobody even said they were!) then go ahead and doubt that they were murdered at all, or at the music festival, etc. etc. Or perhaps the murders of the babies was done in a humane way? Often the same kind of haters that are holocaust deniers. Edited October 16, 2023 by Jingthing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Refresh yourself with the propaganda. Oh, so they slaughtered them but did not behead them all; that'll be of great comfort to the grieving parents, I'm sure ..... come on Paul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Back on topic. IDF now confirms 199 people taken as hostage into Gaza. Rafah crossing remains closed with Hamas and Israel saying there have been no deals done and Egypt wanting safety guarantees before it reopens. So not looking good for those who have been queuing up. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233 The humanitarian crisis is worsening, was reading a report on the BBC last night from one of its reporters who lives in Gaza and had to evacuate along with hundreds of thousand others to south Gaza, a city called Khan Younis. Hamas is there firing rockets into Israel from near the hospital! Using the civilians as human shields. Khan Younis: A Gaza city on its knees, now with a million mouths to feed And it is not as if this city is safe from harm. It is regularly bombed - it is still in a warzone. Collapsed buildings and piles of rubble litter the streets. I heard rocket launches from near the hospital, as Hamas continues to strike inside Israel. That is an open invitation for retaliation. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67116403 So Israel is not allowing water, electricity and gas to Gaza for it's own citizens (the Israeli hostages)... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Back on topic. IDF now confirms 199 people taken as hostage into Gaza. Rafah crossing remains closed with Hamas and Israel saying there have been no deals done and Egypt wanting safety guarantees before it reopens. So not looking good for those who have been queuing up. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233 The humanitarian crisis is worsening, was reading a report on the BBC last night from one of its reporters who lives in Gaza and had to evacuate along with hundreds of thousand others to south Gaza, a city called Khan Younis. Hamas is there firing rockets into Israel from near the hospital! Using the civilians as human shields. Khan Younis: A Gaza city on its knees, now with a million mouths to feed And it is not as if this city is safe from harm. It is regularly bombed - it is still in a warzone. Collapsed buildings and piles of rubble litter the streets. I heard rocket launches from near the hospital, as Hamas continues to strike inside Israel. That is an open invitation for retaliation. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67116403 Something I already predicted which I recently heard agreed with by some pundit -- this time is different. While Israel (and other countries) obviously care about the hostages given what happened (the massacres by Hamas) and given the large numbers of hostages, their survival will not be the highest priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thorgal said: So Israel is not allowing water, electricity and gas to Gaza for it's own citizens (the Israeli hostages)... Well, its a large mix of nationalities, not just Israelis being held. If Hamas wanted to de escalate the first thing they'd do is release some of them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 hours ago, MikeandDow said: From AOL "If the Zionist aggressions do not stop, the hands of all parties in the region are on the trigger," said Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian, adding that Tehran could not simply stay an observer." end of the ayatollahs if they get invoved That would make the US Zionists happy. Almost like there was an agenda here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: That would make the US Zionists happy. Almost like there was an agenda here. Always with the silly conspiracy theories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Well, its a large mix of nationalities, not just Israelis being held. If Hamas wanted to de escalate the first thing they'd do is release some of them. Aren't they for swapping with the Pal. prisoners in Israel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Aren't they for swapping with the Pal. prisoners in Israel? I'm not in the negotiating team, why ask me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Something I already predicted which I recently heard agreed with by some pundit -- this time is different. While Israel (and other countries) obviously care about the hostages given what happened (the massacres by Hamas) and given the large numbers of hostages, their survival will not be the highest priority. Israel can't miss this opportunity to wipe out their enemy. I know you can never say anything bad about Israel but try to look at both sides. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Exactly. If I recall, the charge was that 40 babies were murdered in a hospital/medical facility by Hamas terrorists. The exact method of the killing really isn't that important- reports varied on shooting, stabbing, burning, etc. Spending so much time on such a picayune detail only shows the emptiness of the underlying position. "Well, sure Hamas murdered 40 babies, but at least they didn't decapitate ALL of them" is not a great position to defend. So Hamas beheading 40 babies, as evinced by Joe Biden through "pictures he saw", later retracted by all. Again 40 children within a conflict seem to be expendable by either side, without the need to garnish it as homicidal butchery. Gaza children are reaching how many? And total count of Palestinian children throughout these years amount to what number? Makes me wretch, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: Israel can't miss this opportunity to wipe out their enemy. I know you can never say anything bad about Israel but try to look at both sides. Hamas needs wiping out, what are you talking about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Well, its a large mix of nationalities, not just Israelis being held. If Hamas wanted to de escalate the first thing they'd do is release some of them. There are daily protests at the Israeli parliament with the families and relatives of the hostages in Gaza. Why is there no mediation or is a debate with Hamas forbidden at all cost ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I'm not in the negotiating team, why ask me? Oh, sorry. I thought the purpose of threads like this was to question each others' views. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: try to look at both sides. You don't do irony do you ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: Oh, sorry. I thought the purpose of threads like this was to question each others' views. Ok, let me make it a little clearer for you: 7 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Aren't they for swapping with the Pal. prisoners in Israel? No idea, do you know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: There are daily protests at the Israeli parliament with the families and relatives of the hostages in Gaza. Why is there no mediation or is a debate with Hamas forbidden at all cost ? This conflict is bigger than normal citizens. Think US power, oil, control. Revenge for 11/9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Ok, let me make it a little clearer for you: No idea, do you know? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thorgal said: There are daily protests at the Israeli parliament with the families and relatives of the hostages in Gaza. Why is there no mediation or is a debate with Hamas forbidden at all cost ? "Why is there no mediation or is a debate with Hamas forbidden at all cost ?" How do you know there is not any mediation or debate going on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: How do you know there is not any mediation or debate going on? Why are you asking him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Why are you asking him? Because he made a claim there were no negotiations going on, how does he know that, simple enough for you? Edited October 16, 2023 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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