ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Hanaguma]

8 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

The only people who can wipe out Hamas are the Palestinians.

 

Israel can keep killing Palestinian babies until the cows come home and all they'll achieve is a strengthened Hamas.

That is like saying the only people who could wipe out the Nazis were Germans. Or the only people who could wipe out the Japanese imperialists were Japanese. Both patently untrue- the Allies did a pretty good number on both as I recall. 

 

Wipe out Hamas and their supporters, destroy their terror network, roll up the outside funders and make them all room temperature, then work on a reasonable political solution for Gaza. One that involves a modicum of democracy, backed up by aid so that they can become self sufficient.  Prevent the young from being taught hate and anti-semitism at school.  Allow human rights and freedom. Gaza could bloom if given the right incentive and without Hamas holding it back.

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

Just on the news. Israel going full out. They will eventually take over all the area. They will not ceasefire until Hamas gone. But surely terrorist strikes will continue until many new generations slowly forget.

If what he claims is true (not likely) the number of Palestinians that support hamas is insignificant, so once hamas is eradicated, the remaining Palestinians will at last be free to govern themselves and can enter in a lasting peace with Israel. 

[MrMojoRisin]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

We = the thinkers of this thread. HTH

Bit arrogant to include yourself in that group Bob.

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Yes we could find anything we wanted to suit our narratives on the internet, and indeed you are very skilled at doing just that, but it doesn't alter the fact that the Palestinian terrorists started this whole shebang, there wouldn't be any deaths and why do you avoid the most obvious of reasons to these deplorable actions and venture down deflection drive. 

Nothing excuses the actions of the Palestinian Terrorists on the 7th October.

 

 

 Repetitive mumbo jumbo..

So you only started looking at Israel on Oct 7, nothing was going on before then?

 

 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

Bit arrogant to include yourself in that group Bob.

I was excluding you.🥴

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You're right, I forgot. In 2005. 8,000 Israelis moved out of Gaza. They foolishly left behind greenhouses and materials for the Gazans to use. Millions of dollars in outside aid also came in. But the Gazans wisely refused to copy the dirty Jews and try to make money by growing flowers and other valuable crops. No, they wisely decided to loot and burn anything left behind by the departing Jews. Turned the piping onto rockets to get revenge on them.  So yes, the Jews in  way sowed the seeds of their own discomfort.

It's amazing the number of people that wipe their butts with their curtains and can't figure out why the house stinks. 

[MrMojoRisin]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That is like saying the only people who could wipe out the Nazis were Germans. Or the only people who could wipe out the Japanese imperialists were Japanese. Both patently untrue- the Allies did a pretty good number on both as I recall. 

 

False analogy.

Hamas hasn't the capability to project power across the globe.

They can't even fight Israel fairly.

 

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Wipe out Hamas and their supporters, destroy their terror network, roll up the outside funders and make them all room temperature, then work on a reasonable political solution for Gaza. One that involves a modicum of democracy, backed up by aid so that they can become self sufficient.  Prevent the young from being taught hate and anti-semitism at school.  Allow human rights and freedom. Gaza could bloom if given the right incentive and without Hamas holding it back.

 

Catch up, the Israeli's already have a reasonable solution for Gaza.

Guess what it is...

Yep, they're going to steal it and relocate 2 million Palestinians to the Sinai.

Gaza may bloom, but there won't be any Palestinians living there.

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

I can't imagine having views / opinions / beliefs that I'd be too embarrassed to admit to in public.

That's what avoiding the question indicates, that you are too embarrassed to speak your truth.

Just for fun, one more time...,

 

Dead kid every 10 minutes - any thoughts?

Collateral Damage.

[MrMojoRisin]

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Collateral Damage.

Acceptable to you?

If so, would it still be acceptable if the kids were white or Christian?

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

 Repetitive mumbo jumbo..

So you only started looking at Israel on Oct 7, nothing was going on before then?

 

 

He clue is in the heading of this thread. "Oct 7th the war in Israel" How many times do other posters have to explain things to you?

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Looks like those 8,000 Israeli's may soon be moving back in.

 

Bombshell ‘plan’ for Gaza surfaces

A bombshell plan to permanently relocate 2.3 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Egypt has surfaced, which critics say exposes Israel’s true objective.

Israel’s Intelligence Ministry has devised the wartime proposal, which outlines the transfer of the entire population of the disputed territory to the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insisted the report was “a concept paper” drafted as part of a hypothetical exercise.

 

A leaked copy of the report, which said it was drafted on 13 October, just days after the Hamas massacres of 7 October, offers strategies “to effect a significant change in the civilian reality in the Gaza Strip”.

It proposes moving the millions of people who reside in Israel to tent cities in Sinai while permanent cities in a humanitarian corridor are constructed.

A security perimeter would then be established on the Israeli border to prevent displaced Palestinians from returning to Gaza.

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israelhamas-conflict-grim-fate-of-german-tattoo-artist-thought-to-have-been-kidnapped-by-hamas-revealed/news-story/e758830dc9df876451bc234073532d60

You should be thrilled, think of all the Palestinian babies that would be saved! 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 Repetitive mumbo jumbo..

So you only started looking at Israel on Oct 7, nothing was going on before then?

 

 

October 7 was like 9-11 for Israel. 

Nothing will ever be the same.

As Biden likes to say, an inflection point.

Deny that reality and you can't possibly have any credibility.

Edited October 31, 2023 by Jingthing

[MrMojoRisin]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

You should be thrilled, think of all the Palestinian babies that would be saved! 

What is your serious opinion if this is actually what Israel does, annexes Gaza and expels 2 million Palestinians to Egypt?

What do you think will then happen in the West Bank?

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

He clue is in the heading of this thread. "Oct 7th the war in Israel" How many times do other posters have to explain things to you?

The reason this war started is very important, it was not the Hamas terrorist on Oct 7th. How many times do other posters have to explain this to you?

[Neeranam]

Just now, Jingthing said:

October 7 was like 9-11 for Israel. 

Nothing will ever be the same.

I agree. 

 

Do you think 9-11 attack was brought on by anything the US did?

[MrMojoRisin]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

October 7 was like 9-11 for Israel. 

Nothing will ever be the same.

Nothing may ever be the same for the world if the Israeli's don't pull the reins on Netanyahu.

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

False analogy.

Hamas hasn't the capability to project power across the globe.

They can't even fight Israel fairly.

Germany did not have the capability to project power across the globe either, 

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Catch up, the Israeli's already have a reasonable solution for Gaza.

Guess what it is...

Yep, they're going to steal it and relocate 2 million Palestinians to the Sinai.

Gaza may bloom, but there won't be any Palestinians living there.

Liar. 

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

 

 

 

Catch up, the Israeli's already have a reasonable solution for Gaza.

Guess what it is...

Yep, they're going to steal it and relocate 2 million Palestinians to the Sinai.

Gaza may bloom, but there won't be any Palestinians living there.

That's the plan but there are many watching them try. 

[coolcarer]

13 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Looks like those 8,000 Israeli's may soon be moving back in.

 

Bombshell ‘plan’ for Gaza surfaces

A bombshell plan to permanently relocate 2.3 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Egypt has surfaced, which critics say exposes Israel’s true objective.

Israel’s Intelligence Ministry has devised the wartime proposal, which outlines the transfer of the entire population of the disputed territory to the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insisted the report was “a concept paper” drafted as part of a hypothetical exercise.

 

A leaked copy of the report, which said it was drafted on 13 October, just days after the Hamas massacres of 7 October, offers strategies “to effect a significant change in the civilian reality in the Gaza Strip”.

It proposes moving the millions of people who reside in Israel to tent cities in Sinai while permanent cities in a humanitarian corridor are constructed.

A security perimeter would then be established on the Israeli border to prevent displaced Palestinians from returning to Gaza.

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israelhamas-conflict-grim-fate-of-german-tattoo-artist-thought-to-have-been-kidnapped-by-hamas-revealed/news-story/e758830dc9df876451bc234073532d60

Is this still going according to the Hamas plan?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Just as evil as murdering babies with bombs from 10,000 feet, wouldn't you agree?

No.

 

There is a fundamental psychological difference between intentionally murdering babies up close and personal and engaging in bombing military targets.

 

Most people are able to bomb military targets, but cannot bring themselves to personally killing babies. It takes a rare personality to kill babies up close, and such people need to be taken away from society, whether they are Israeli, Arab, Thai, whatever.

[Neeranam]

Israel is fully dependent on the US in this war.

 

The US can stop this war. 

[MrMojoRisin]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Germany did not have the capability to project power across the globe either, 

Liar. 

Germany did not have the capability to project power across the globe either, 

- Germany, the main antagonist of WW2, did not have the capability to project power across the globe?

 

Liar. 

- Time will tell.

[Neeranam]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

No.

 

There is a fundamental psychological difference between intentionally murdering babies up close and personal and engaging in bombing military targets.

 

Most people are able to bomb military targets, but cannot bring themselves to personally killing babies. It takes a rare personality to kill babies up close, and such people need to be taken away from society, whether they are Israeli, Arab, Thai, whatever.

How many people killed babies up close? Is there any proof about the baby beheadings?

[deejai33]

On 10/30/2023 at 11:41 AM, Paul Catton said:

The World are indeed watching "Israel at War", not only recording but able to document this latest war beyond the next five minutes.

 

Allegations of war crimes against Israel

Complete with all citations from credible sources regarding the ongoing conflict.

 

 

 

That's quite a detailed and extensive list.  Each needs further investigation ofcourse.

 

Hamas crimes need to be listed and investigated too.

 

The Guardian has an article about the ICC and other interested parties on this matter.  Israel seems to not recognise the ICC and is forbidding them access to the palestinian territories.  Seems odd to do that.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/have-war-crimes-been-committed-in-israel-and-gaza-and-what-international-laws-apply

 

[MrMojoRisin]

2 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Is this still going according to the Hamas plan?

Could very well be - depends entirely on the reaction of the Arab world.

If Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Jordan et al jump in, I'd say Hamas has got what they wanted.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

*If Hamas is destroyed.

 

Right now, all things are possible, including a bigger and better supported, resourced and funded Hamas.

 

Do tell.

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

The reason this war started is very important, it was not the Hamas terrorist on Oct 7th. How many times do other posters have to explain this to you?

Are you being deliberately obtuse. It was the Hamas on the 7th October, are you sure this topic is not too difficult for you, excusing terrorists is not in the spirit of what this thread is all about.

[transam]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Israel is fully dependent on the US in this war.

 

The US can stop this war. 

Who are your friends Hamas dependent on....?...............🤔

[Neeranam]

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

Could very well be - depends entirely on the reaction of the Arab world.

If Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Jordan et al jump in, I'd say Hamas has got what they wanted.

More and more people are waking up to the terrible persecution of the Palestinians by Israel; there are huge protests all over the world. 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Perennial victims.

 

Said the poster forever whining about Palestinians' lot, while at the same time making the case for them not being able to be different.