ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[NextG]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Could you just tell me what he meant ?

 

 

 

 

No, it’s your ‘argument’; handle it yourself. I just stepped in to stop the bullying. 

[NextG]

9 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

I will reiterate that your posts have hardly been sympathetic to to the murderous actions of the Palestinians in Israel, infact the opposite, only today you were bragging/boasting about how the Palestinians have developed a rocket/missile that can penetrate 2 miles of concrete. Don't try and pull the wool over our Thorgal, we have you sussed. 

Why does he have to be sympathetic?

Are you sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians?

It’s not about sympathy. You want him to pick a side. 

Edited November 3, 2023 by NextG

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, NextG said:

It is not possible to have a balanced discussion on threads such as this. Any post not in total support of Israeli actions are labelled anti-semetic and therefore in support of HAMAS. Totally moronic. 

 

 

   I haven't seen any posts recently of anti sematic accusation posts being made 

When did  they happen ?

There have been many posts such as yours claiming to have been labelled as being anti sematic and not actual accusation was made 

   Just posters saying Stop accusing me of being Anti sematic, when the accusation wasn't even made 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

No, it’s your ‘argument’; handle it yourself. I just stepped in to stop the bullying. 

 

 

  "Bullying" isn't asking people what they meant 

If you didn't understand what a person meant , it isn't "bullying" them to ask them what they meant 

[NextG]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You have made numerous anti sematic remarks , so it wasn't an untrue accusation 

So this wasn’t you then?

[NextG]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

  "Bullying" isn't asking people what they meant 

If you didn't understand what a person meant , it isn't "bullying" them to ask them what they meant 

You are ‘gaslighting’ him. Writing “let’s be honest” and then TELLING him what he meant. I too would just ignore a character who tried to play that game with me. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, NextG said:

You are ‘gaslighting’ him. Writing “let’s be honest” and then TELLING him what he meant. I too would just ignore a character who tried to play that game with me. 

 

  This is getting Ridiculous 

I just wanted to know what he meant 

Maybe he will be long later to explain what he meant 

 

[Thorgal]

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   And a few posts later, you are accusing Israel of participating in war crimes 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not true : I've pointed that my opinion is not relevant. The decision is on a legal level by ICC prosecutors and ICC judges.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/page/256/#comment-18473241

 

My quote was :

 

 

"The question is not if there are war crimes happening since 7th of October in Gaza, the question is which expertise and reports are required to officialize the variety and severity of these war crimes.

 

My opinion is not a relevant vector in this whole process.

It's based on the expertise of the ICC prosecutors and the decision of the ICC judges.

 

Multiple times people ask these non-innocent questions to smear this impartiality to proportions of antisemitism, Hamas lover, etc...just scroll the last 5 pages back and your intellectual honesty will understand that's it's actually a malicious game."

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, NextG said:

So this wasn’t you then?

 

  The poster in question has made numerous anti sematic remarks throughout the thread , that isn't my opinion, the official definition of what anti Semitism is, he has been saying those things many times 

    People who disagree with Israel and support the Palsedtians haven't been celled anti sematic , its just those making anti sematic remarks who have been called out 

[Thorgal]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  This is getting Ridiculous 

I just wanted to know what he meant 

Maybe he will be long later to explain what he meant 

 

 

Case closed.

[Thorgal]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  The poster in question has made numerous anti sematic remarks throughout the thread , that isn't my opinion, the official definition of what anti Semitism is, he has been saying those things many times 

    People who disagree with Israel and support the Palsedtians haven't been celled anti sematic , its just those making anti sematic remarks who have been called out 

 

Not true : 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/page/256/#comment-18473241

 

My quote was :

 

 

"The question is not if there are war crimes happening since 7th of October in Gaza, the question is which expertise and reports are required to officialize the variety and severity of these war crimes.

 

My opinion is not a relevant vector in this whole process.

It's based on the expertise of the ICC prosecutors and the decision of the ICC judges.

 

Multiple times people ask these non-innocent questions to smear this impartiality to proportions of antisemitism, Hamas lover, etc...just scroll the last 5 pages back and your intellectual honesty will understand that's it's actually a malicious game."

[NextG]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   I haven't seen any posts recently of anti sematic accusation posts being made 

When did  they happen ?

There have been many posts such as yours claiming to have been labelled as being anti sematic and not actual accusation was made 

   Just posters saying Stop accusing me of being Anti sematic, when the accusation wasn't even made 

“

  The poster in question has made numerous anti sematic remarks throughout the thread , that isn't my opinion, the official definition of what anti Semitism is, he has been saying those things many times 

    People who disagree with Israel and support the Palsedtians haven't been celled anti sematic , its just those making anti sematic remarks who have been called out”

 

So you have directly contradicted yourself…

You are confusing yourself. Take a rest. 
I’m out. This is not a place where different views and perspectives can be discussed. 
Just a load of rabid dogs wanting their side to win, no matter the cost. 
But there is at least two sides to every story. Listen to each other. Share knowledge. 
Even Jews living in ‘Israel’ can be pro-Palestine. It’s not as black and white as you might imagine. 

Edited November 3, 2023 by NextG

[Morch]

40 minutes ago, NextG said:

You are asking ‘loaded’ questions. Jumping to conclusions, assuming the worst and then attributing your thoughts to others. 
Others can have a different perspective. Learn to respect that. 

 

I think that this topic is over 250 pages. Most posters got a pretty good handle on who's what, which opinions are held, and so on.

Other posters (self included) have been 'debating' (if you can call it that) with other posters for years on similar topics, the poster in question very much included. Don't think there's a need to reassess where he's coming from each and every time.

It's also not too hard to notice were the majority of trolling, derailing and all the rest come from.

Respect is earned.

[Thorgal]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  The poster in question has made numerous anti sematic remarks throughout the thread , that isn't my opinion, the official definition of what anti Semitism is, he has been saying those things many times 

    People who disagree with Israel and support the Palsedtians haven't been celled anti sematic , its just those making anti sematic remarks who have been called out 

 

So explain once and for all why bombing pregnant Palestinian women as retaliation is OK when they carry a boy, but they should not be bombed if they carry a girl?

 

Your quote :

 

"The pregnant woman would depend on whether she was having a male child or a female child .

  If shes having a Female child, then she shouldnt be bombed "

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/page/201/#comment-18461857

 

[Morch]

37 minutes ago, NextG said:

Is that your top level of debating?

 

Hmm...what level of debate would popping into a topic, contributing nothing and getting at other posters be?

You're doing it wrong.

[NextG]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Hmm...what level of debate would popping into a topic, contributing nothing and getting at other posters be?

You're doing it wrong.

So this is your level of debate? Truly moronic. 

[Morch]

29 minutes ago, NextG said:

It is not possible to have a balanced discussion on threads such as this. Any post not in total support of Israeli actions are labelled anti-semetic and therefore in support of HAMAS. Totally moronic. 

 

That's one lame straw man - did any one accuse you of either? Were you even saying anything on topic?

[Morch]

29 minutes ago, NextG said:

Of course, because I’d take you apart. 

 

My Dad is stronger than yours.

So there.

[NextG]

Just now, Morch said:

 

That's one lame straw man - did any one accuse you of either? Were you even saying anything on topic?

I pointed out where the poster had stated that had not seen it here, had done it. 

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, NextG said:

I pointed out where the poster had stated that had not seen it here, had done it. 

 

So nothing on topic from you. Gotcha.

You're just doing the knight in shiny armor thing. ok.

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Thorgal said:

Multiple times people ask these non-innocent questions to smear this impartiality to proportions of antisemitism, Hamas lover, etc...just scroll the last 5 pages back and your intellectual honesty will understand that's it's actually a malicious game. 

With very twisted players. They band together to get those with differing views branded as racist, unable to post, or leave as they are sick of their bias and childish shenanigans. 

 

[Morch]

And back on topic.....

 

Nasrallah gave his much anticipated speech, and as expected, it was a let down for the Hamas:

 

Nasrallah says Israel-Hamas war '100% Palestinian, not regional'

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byfyvyzq6

 

Basically he did the best he could to distance Hezbollah and Iran from any direct knowledge of the attack, any direct involvement. Even the part where he talks about Hezbollah's contribution is a cop out, claiming it to be significant and making much of the 50 odd 'martyrs' (which would be a mix of Hezbollah, Hamas and other Palestinian organizations' men). Saying it's a Palestinian thing, rather than a regional makes it pretty clear where things stand.

 

Sure, Hezbollah will continue harassing the IDF on the north front, maybe even pick it up a notch or two. But doesn't sound like Iran green-lighted or is eager for more than that. Things could change, of course - one rocket hits this, one missile hits that and things can get out of hand. But de-facto, seems like the 'rules' for this time around have been agreed upon.

 

Also easy to notice he stresses the negotiations angle. I think that's directed at both Israel and the Hamas.

 

Guess tomorrow morning on Palestinian media will be the same old - 'surprised' and angry about the lack of significant support. Don't know if the Hamas leadership expected more, believed or led to believe that there would be more - but any way, they'll be doing some hard thinking tonight.

 

[Neeranam]

28 minutes ago, NextG said:

You are confusing yourself. Take a rest. 
I’m out. This is not a place where different views and perspectives can be discussed. 
Just a load of rabid dogs wanting their side to win, no matter the cost. 

Amen. Sadly, they'll force all who are not biased Israeli supporters to leave, then they can all fool themselves into believing

Israel has done no wrong. It's pathetic really. 

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

 

Can you provide facts to your conclusion?

 

I don't understand where and how you come to that conclusion with what I'm posting.

You said a UK Aircraft Carrier was in the gulf it was never sent you made that up Thorgal. you constantly go off Topic, and then once we caught out you deflected and posted from Websites against forum rules. You went on and on telling everyone Israel fired the missile that hit a hospital you were wrong again the list goes on and on but you don't seem to take it in between your ears you won't listen or accept the truth and you just carry on making a fool of yourself thinking we are listening to you. We give you facts then you post give us facts you have already been given the facts. 

[BarraMarra]

33 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Amen. Sadly, they'll force all who are not biased Israeli supporters to leave, then they can all fool themselves into believing

Israel has done no wrong. It's pathetic really. 

Or put them on Iggie so you can carry on without comeback.

[BarraMarra]

Today Blinken held a press conference in Tel Aviv his opening lines were i have just witnessed video Evidence from body Cam footage from Captured Terrorist. He went on a Hamas fighter entered a kibbutz and forced out a father and his 2 Sons maybe 11-12 years old they were forced into a shelter in their Garden and once inside a grenade was thrown in by a Hamas fighter. The father staggered out and was shot dead the kids came out shouting why have you killed our daddy they were then taken to the Gaza to be used as hostages. Sickening.

Edited November 3, 2023 by BarraMarra

[Wobblybob]

7 hours ago, NextG said:

Of course, because I’d take you apart. 

Give it a go Mr ad hom! 

[Wobblybob]

7 hours ago, NextG said:

Why does he have to be sympathetic?

Are you sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians?

It’s not about sympathy. You want him to pick a side. 

When you side with terrorists you can't have any morals and just like yourself you are only left with verbal attacks. 

[Wobblybob]

7 hours ago, NextG said:

No, it’s your ‘argument’; handle it yourself. I just stepped in to stop the bullying. 

Hello, my name is Michael Caine and I'm a nosy neighbour. "I stepped in to stop the bullying" we have a live one here who thinks he's Henry Kissenger. 😂

[metisdead]

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