ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Thorgal]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Strange how the BBC trust the figures but the Israeli fundamentalists here don't🤔

 

1. More than 10,300 people have been killed in Gaza according to the Hamas-run health ministry, including more than 4,100 children

 

There's also an unknown number of Palestinian citizens that are missing under the demolition of the Gaza buildings that have been bombed.

This figure of missing persons needs to be added to the 10.300...

[Neeranam]

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

There's also an unknown number of Palestinian citizens that are missing under the demolition of the Gaza buildings that have been bombed.

This figure of missing persons needs to be added to the 10.300...

I missed that, thanks.

[Neeranam]

Israel has dropped 18,000 tons of bombs on Gaza, 1.5 times more than bomb dropped on Hiroshima

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-has-dropped-18-000-tons-of-bombs-on-gaza-15-times-more-than-bomb-dropped-on-hiroshima/3039805#:~:text=Israel has dropped 18%2C000 tons,than bomb dropped on Hiroshima

[Thorgal]

2 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

Just think if the Palestinians hadn't started this war none of this would be happening, is there a reason you won't accept facts?

 

Killing massively and unlawfully civilians while it's known that weaponed Hamas militia went into Israel on 7th of October to kill massively and unlawfully unlawfully is not acceptable to continue. The difference between combatant and non-combatant has been "overlooked" to justify the ongoing onslaught in Gaza on non combatant civilians.

[Thorgal]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Murdered how? Do you consider all people, all children killed in wars to be 'murdered'?

 

As per international law : YES, if they're non combatants.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Thorgal

[Thorgal]

14 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I missed that, thanks.

 

No problem, you're welcome !

[MrMojoRisin]

Far-right minister: Nuking Gaza is an option, population should ‘go to Ireland or deserts’

He says the northern Strip has no right to exist, adding that anyone waving a Palestinian or Hamas flag “shouldn’t continue living on the face of the earth.”

 

He backs retaking the Strip’s territory and restoring the settlements there. Asked about the fate of the Palestinian population, he says: “They can go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/far-right-minister-nuking-gaza-is-an-option-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/

[Yagoda]

33 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Why don't you 'private message' each other, this petty rhetoric between yourselves is very boring, you criticise others whilst being party to racist posts. 

Nobody likes what is happening in Gaza and to suggest that other posters do is entirely inflammatory, Hamas started this war and they are a death cult and want nothing more than the destruction of Israel and the Israelis themselves, Israel has little or no choice but to rid the world of these perverted sadists to protect their own citizens and if you didn't have so many posters on 'ignore' you may be more understanding of this war!

And American citizens.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

19 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

There's also an unknown number of Palestinian citizens that are missing under the demolition of the Gaza buildings that have been bombed.

This figure of missing persons needs to be added to the 10.300...

Oh, no

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[Yagoda]

Just now, Neeranam said:

And welcome back, it's nice to get unbiased opinion on this war. 

Yeah the Hamas apologists high fiving each other. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

No problem, you're welcome !

 

What a wonderful bromance 😬

[Thorgal]

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Far-right minister: Nuking Gaza is an option, population should ‘go to Ireland or deserts’

He says the northern Strip has no right to exist, adding that anyone waving a Palestinian or Hamas flag “shouldn’t continue living on the face of the earth.”

 

He backs retaking the Strip’s territory and restoring the settlements there. Asked about the fate of the Palestinian population, he says: “They can go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/far-right-minister-nuking-gaza-is-an-option-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/

 

Welcome back Mr. Mojo !

 

Yes, there are rumors/plans to take in some Palestinians overseas so that we can't define these bombings as a genocide followed by an exodus in the future history books.

 

Israeli's (settlers) are already protesting or promoting with banners to get back the Kibbutzim that they left 15 years ago in Gaza : there will be land available again soon.

 

All this might be seen as "pure coincidence"...

[Neeranam]

15 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Far-right minister: Nuking Gaza is an option, population should ‘go to Ireland or deserts’

He says the northern Strip has no right to exist, adding that anyone waving a Palestinian or Hamas flag “shouldn’t continue living on the face of the earth.”

 

He backs retaking the Strip’s territory and restoring the settlements there. Asked about the fate of the Palestinian population, he says: “They can go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/far-right-minister-nuking-gaza-is-an-option-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/

Only antisemites post things like this 

[Wobblybob]

17 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Killing massively and unlawfully civilians while it's known that weaponed Hamas militia went into Israel on 7th of October to kill massively and unlawfully unlawfully is not acceptable to continue. The difference between combatant and non-combatant has been "overlooked" to justify the ongoing onslaught in Gaza on non combatant civilians.

They are at war, Hamas instigated the war, Israel is legally bound to protect its citizens and they are doing just that, they are giving the people of Gaza a warning before they attack, I cannot remember the Palestinians giving the Israelis a warning when they attacked Israel, can you?

[Bkk Brian]

32 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

There's also an unknown number of Palestinian citizens that are missing under the demolition of the Gaza buildings that have been bombed.

This figure of missing persons needs to be added to the 10.300...

If you are accounting, then you also need the number of Hamas fighters killed that are in that figure and deduct them from the total, currently Israel says its in the 1000's. Then of course take into account that at least 600 of the Hamas rockets have landed back in Gaza after misfiring, an unknown number again to be deducted from that amount including those from the hospital carpark.

[Neeranam]

Coming from an Israeli Minister kind of says it all. 

 

 

Asked in an interview with Radio Kol Berama whether he was suggesting that some kind of nuclear bomb might be dropped on the enclave, Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu says “That’s one way.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/far-right-minister-nuking-gaza-is-an-option-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/30/biden-israel-russia-comparisons-civilian-deaths-00124286

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/28/7426172/

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/7/is-israels-gaza-war-the-deadliest-conflict-for-children-in-modern-times

 

 

 

 

 

Link to the graph? Its not supplied in the links you provided?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

17 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/30/biden-israel-russia-comparisons-civilian-deaths-00124286

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/28/7426172/

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/7/is-israels-gaza-war-the-deadliest-conflict-for-children-in-modern-times

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graph / diagram shows Ukraine numbers verified by OHCHR but Palestine numbers as simply verified, without saying by whom ??

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Only antisemites post things like this 

Guess you should be the one to know all about that then.

[Yagoda]

I love the circle jerk the terrorist supporters are having. Ill just drive by and smile and say, don't start a war you cant win. 

 

You get the government you vote for. 

 

Surrender unconditionally or die. 

 

PS: with all of the recent anti semitic attacks in the USA, and all of the threats against Jews and Americans, I consider each and every person who supports Hamas to be a potential deadly threat. I tend to know a whole bunch of Yanks who feel that way too.  

 

Hamas wanted a war to the death, now they are getting it. Surrender now and save what little you have left.

 

Or not, the world will spin very nicely without terrorists.

[Neeranam]

 From CNN. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/07/middleeast/palestinian-israeli-deaths-gaza-dg/index.html

Edited November 8, 2023 by Neeranam

[Sato]

8 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Graph / diagram shows Ukraine numbers verified by OHCHR but Palestine numbers as simply verified, without saying by whom ??

 

 

 

Of course verified by Hamas, who else ?

[Sato]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 From CNN. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/07/middleeast/palestinian-israeli-deaths-gaza-dg/index.html

And the source behind those figures again Hamas.

[Thorgal]

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

If you are accounting, then you also need the number of Hamas fighters killed that are in that figure and deduct them from the total, currently Israel says its in the 1000's. Then of course take into account that at least 600 of the Hamas rockets have landed back in Gaza after misfiring, an unknown number again to be deducted from that amount including those from the hospital carpark.

 

Hamas has a political, militant, social care, internal security (police), etc...

 

The 7th October attacks on Israeli civilians and soldiers was perpetrated by some 2.000 combatant Hamas militants.

Followed by let's say a 3.000 Gaza civilians that came into Israeli territory to steal (pickups, Humvees, etc...). Some of these 3.000 civilians had weapons and used them against Israeli civilians others just came in and out to steal and take selfies.

 

So the totality of real combatant Hamas soldiers and combatant Gaza civilians we can roughly estimate to give a number : 2.000 + 1.500 = 3.500 combatant persons that participated unlawfully in a colonial pogrom and killed or participated in the killing of innocent Israeli civilians and innocent Israeli servicemen. 

 

I agree that these 3.500 to 4.000 Gazans should be brought to justice for their murders + assistance to murders. They're ALL terrorists. 

 

All non combatant others (2.300.000 - 4.000 = 2.296.000) that didn't participate in the killings (actively + passively) are now also labeled as terrorists and are executed unlawfully according to international law during the bombings and their non combatant families.

 

Is it this want you want to tell in you post with numbers ?

Edited November 8, 2023 by Thorgal

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, Sato said:

Of course verified by Hamas, who else ?

This is published by CNN who are Pro-Israel.  Not Hamas, but the Palestinian Ministry of Health. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

32 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/30/biden-israel-russia-comparisons-civilian-deaths-00124286

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/28/7426172/

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/7/is-israels-gaza-war-the-deadliest-conflict-for-children-in-modern-times

 

 

 

 

 

What about the estimated 25,000 killed in Mariupol? Again link to that dodgy graph troll. Below tweet from Washington Post reporter

 

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1722121906906616051

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

This is published by CNN who are Pro-Israel.  Not Hamas, but the Palestinian Ministry of Health. 

 

 

Misinformation all all counts. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Not Hamas, but the Palestinian Ministry of Health

 

Any idea who controls the Palestinian Ministry of Health ??

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Hamas has a political, militant, social care, internal security (police), etc...

 

The 7th October attacks on Israeli civilians and soldiers was perpetrated by some 2.000 combatant Hamas militants.

Followed by let's say a 3.000 Gaza civilians that came into Israeli territory to steal (pickups, Humvees, etc...). Some of these 3.000 civilians had weapons and used them against Israeli civilians others just came in and out to steal and take selfies.

 

So the totality of real combatant Hamas soldiers and combatant Gaza civilians we can roughly estimate to give a number : 2.000 + 1.500 = 3.500 combatant persons that participated unlawfully in a colonial pogrom and killed or participated in the killing of innocent Israeli civilians and innocent Israeli servicemen. 

 

I agree that these 3.500 to 4.000 Gazans should be brought to justice for their murders + assistance to murders. They're ALL terrorists. 

 

All non combatant others (2.300.000 - 4.000 = 2.296.000) than didn't participate in the killings (actively + passively) are now also labeled as terrorists and are executed unlawfully according to international law during the bombings and their non combatant families.

 

Is it this want you want to tell in you post with numbers ?

What's this waffle got to do with your post and my response?