Dan discusses his Pattaya Bargirl relationship and advises others to not do the same.

[Goat]

10 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

 

vloggers choose pattaya because other locations don't get views on a monetized channel

I think Dan was in Pattaya before vlogging was a thing.

Interesting to hear from Dan why he ended up in Pattaya of all places in Thailand as a 30 year old.

Must have been love.

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Thats right Peter. It just keeps happening.

 

What I found interesting about Dan Cheeseman's relationship with his Pattaya bargirl was that he was living here and in his early 30s. I can understand an elderly expat or a younger two week millionaire, but a young fella in his prime. Living in Thailand?

Dan dicusses older fellas falling for them when advising against it, and quite strongly.

 

But i think the vast majority of farangs who move here in their 30s avoid bar prostitutes like the plague.

Firstly because especially at that age you shouldnt be paying for sex, that is just pitiful. And he says that the reason that he thinks fellas do end up in love with prostitutes is because of pity which I thought was a bit ironic.

Secondly because there are literally tens of thousands of hot single available friendly girls in Thailand. Why would you even waste time with a hooker? Why did Dan choose Pattaya of all places? Not a place where the younger crowd gravitate to. Back twenty years ago Koh Samui, Tao, Phangnan were the places to be for the younger crowd.

Was Dan sponsoring his Pattaya hooker full time? Or did he let her work and he just shared. He said it was a longer term relationship and he mentions "taking care" of extended family so I assume he was paying her not to work.

 

So Dan's 'fell in love with a Pattaya prostitute" story isnt the usual "middle aged and got divorced in UK and found love in a Pattaya Bar"

 

 

With a second name of Cheeseman, what do you expect?

[Goat]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

With a second name of Cheeseman, what do you expect?

He cant help that.

 

But he really should lay off the botox, especially as a vlogger. The expressionless face makes it hard to now if he is angry, happy or being sarcastic.

I suspect he is getting it done at a  Pattaya "clinic" by an untrained "doctor".

[Seppius]

Someone once told me he owned this forum or was MD, I guess that was not true

[Goat]

Just now, Seppius said:

Someone once told me he owned this forum or was MD, I guess that was not true

I think a part ownership with investors.

 

Anyway it is up for sale now. It has to be worth a lot more now with all the improvements he has implemented.

[transam]

23 minutes ago, Goat said:

I have been in quite a few gay bars in Thailand over the years.

Both the male ones and the Tomboy ones. All good fun. 

 

I never made love with any though. I think it was you who said that it hurts like buggery?

I don't doubt you have ventured into all sex pot deviant places, must be better than the sheep and wellington boots in the pen you were used to in Auss, eh Goaty....😘............

[Ben Zioner]

2 hours ago, QuantumQuandry said:

There's an age when you should pay for sex and an age when you shouldn't?

 

Who determined the correct age and the appropriate level of shaming?  Is there a chart?

Dunno what you mean, but for anyone over 70 paying for sex is a sign of good health.

[BenStark]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

But, is he wrong?

Tell us Dan

[transam]

25 minutes ago, Goat said:

I think Dan was in Pattaya before vlogging was a thing.

Interesting to hear from Dan why he ended up in Pattaya of all places in Thailand as a 30 year old.

Must have been love.

Well you have been here 40 years, and still fooling around in girlie bars, so I don't think you're in a position to talk about anyone's choice, you should stick to what you are used too, which from your posts, I don't think we want to hear about..........😯

[petermik]

57 minutes ago, Goat said:

I watch his videos and he is very often wrong. It is good for a laugh.

 

 

 

"I watch his videos"  is life that boring for you Goat....try a long walk and get some fresh air in yer lungs owd chap 🤔

[timendres]

2 hours ago, Goat said:

But i think the vast majority of farangs who move here in their 30s avoid bar prostitutes like the plague.

Firstly because especially at that age you shouldnt be paying for sex, that is just pitiful.

 

Smart men do not pay for sex. They pay for the woman to leave after they've had sex.

[StayinThailand2much]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Birthdays were never a big thing up there and hardly celebrated at all until recently.

They think it is a bit silly to carry on about a birthday. Who cares really?

 

Well, I always cared about hers, and always remembered it.

[petermik]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Well you have been here 40 years, and still fooling around in girlie bars,

Doubtful trans....wishful thinking more likely 🤣

[StayinThailand2much]

41 minutes ago, Goat said:

I think Dan was in Pattaya before vlogging was a thing.

Interesting to hear from Dan why he ended up in Pattaya of all places in Thailand as a 30 year old.

 

I ended up in Thailand in my early 30s (after a long holiday there). Pattaya was the place I lived at for the first year. It had to be there, or Phuket, but Pattaya was way more fun back then.

[bignok]

I started dating a buffalo

[TroubleandGrumpy]

31 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't doubt you have ventured into all sex pot deviant places, must be better than the sheep and wellington boots in the pen you were used to in Auss, eh Goaty....😘............

Nah mate - it is the Kiwis who are sheep shag****s.

[rumak]

2 hours ago, charleskerins said:

The chart shows an inverse relationship between how well you have aged  and what age you should be paying.

 

I have always suggested that the older a man gets he should make adjustments to the age of the ladies he is selecting.

Most important to consider is that the older the lady the slower they walk to the ATM . 

I'm sure its a pain trying to keep up with the younger ones.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, petermik said:

Doubtful trans....wishful thinking more likely 🤣

Well yeh, I have had visions of him as a Quasimodo double, sitting in a field in Auss, on his iPhone, tending and servicing a herd of "stunning" sheep, though I don't understand why he chose Goat over Ram, but that might just be a cover..................... 😘

[transam]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

I started dating a buffalo

I don't doubt that, at least you would think alike.........

[charleskerins]

18 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

I have always suggested that the older a man gets he should make adjustments to the age of the ladies he is selecting.

Most important to consider is that the older the lady the slower they walk to the ATM . 

I'm sure its a pain trying to keep up with the younger ones.

They just take the scooter to the ATM!  I agree with your first suggestion.

[Goat]

35 minutes ago, transam said:

Well you have been here 40 years, and still fooling around in girlie bars, so I don't think you're in a position to talk about anyone's choice, you should stick to what you are used too, which from your posts, I don't think we want to hear about..........😯

Yes we live in the same country but have had different experiences.

I came here firstly as a kid, you after your UK wife divorced you.

You settled down with the first lady you met here and moved to Ubon to take care of her and her children. I have been through a couple of hundred and as such have seen a lot more.

 

I am fluent in Thai, you havent got there yet.

 

Keep trying mate, it aint rocket surgery. Even the 3 year old Thai kids can do it.

[Goat]

23 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nah mate - it is the Kiwis who are sheep shag****s.

And the Welsh

[Hanaguma]

24 minutes ago, bignok said:

I started dating a buffalo

Did she have a sick girlfriend who needed expensive medical treatment?

[Goat]

30 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

 

I ended up in Thailand in my early 30s (after a long holiday there). Pattaya was the place I lived at for the first year. It had to be there, or Phuket, but Pattaya was way more fun back then.

Ok, did you do what Dan did and fall for a Pattaya prostitute?

Or did you find normal girls like you would have if you were still in your home country?

Would Dan have dated a prostitute back in England? Unlikely. It is weird how some people do that in Thailand. Self esteem issues?

[bignok]

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Did she have a sick girlfriend who needed expensive medical treatment?

Sick chicken

[StayinThailand2much]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Ok, did you do what Dan did and fall for a Pattaya prostitute?

Or did you find normal girls like you would have if you were still in your home country?

 

I never fell for a prostitute. I also found normal girls, albeit not in Pattaya.

[transam]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Yes we live in the same country but have had different experiences.

I came here firstly as a kid, you after your UK wife divorced you.

You settled down with the first lady you met here and moved to Ubon to take care of her and her children. I have been through a couple of hundred and as such have seen a lot more.

 

I am fluent in Thai, you havent got there yet.

 

Keep trying mate, it aint rocket surgery. Even the 3 year old Thai kids can do it.

😂..........More guesswork from an unhappy Aussie, and what has speaking Thai, that you probably picked up from the years spent in girlie bars, got to do with anything.....😂

 

Your 3 year old Thai kids can do what, no don't tell me, you could get into trouble....😂

 

But you carry on with your daily tripe here, we do have a laugh over it...........😂

[Danderman123]

Despite the derision expressed here, the vast majority of "romances" with bar girls end poorly.

 

I differentiate between bargirls with an ATM and those with real boyfriends (most of those are young hansum men). If the lady is supported by a sponsor, then she is fair game. Most such bargirls have zero reservations about having relations with customers, or Thai men.

[Lacessit]

4 hours ago, Goat said:

Good advice.

I think you previously said you also met your gf in the adult entertainment industry?

What did you think about Dan's advice.

I don't have a problem with Dan's advice, except to say not all bar girls are bad. I spent some time in bars, and there were some who were in it as gold-diggers, others who were looking for a longer-term relationship. Dan may be right in asserting a pity element.

My GF's support requirements are modest, and her honesty has passed the tests of it with flying colours.

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, freeworld said:

Finally a topic on which AN members with extensive knowledge can comment on.

Nonsense, they're all married to white-skinned, Thai-Chinese, PhD educated, business-owning, wouldn't-know-the-inside-of-a-bar-if-it-jumped-up-and-bit-them types from well-to-do families.   Apparently.