Hit and run got me, I'm all broken!

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What if BM2 was hanging around the Uni offering girls 500 Bhat for short time and the Uni Lecturer chased him off .

   I seem to recall previously that BM2 stated he had personally  turned Uni girls into prostitution .

   Maybe he was up to that again ?

You making up stories again, always with sexual content. Maybe go back and read what caused the incident

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

3 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

Still no excuse for what he did. 

 

   What if BM2 was hanging around the Uni offering girls 500 Bhat for short time and the Uni Lecturer chased him off .

   I seem to recall previously that BM2 stated he had personally  turned Uni girls into prostitution .

   Maybe he was up to that again ?

 

And that excuses attempted murder ???

 

Your 'whatiffery' is not only out of order, its ridiculous and in this instance fundamentally flawed as you are making up scenarios which completely differ from the incident itself. 

 

Additionally, unless anyone is presenting an imminent threat of physical injury or risk to life there is no call whatsoever for escalation to a physical response.

 

In your comments it seems you want to find any reason whereby it could be justified for someone to 'deliberately drive into a stationary motorcyclist at a junction'... and there isn't any.

 

 

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Charge translates to "Causing serious bodily harm", which I assume is the same as GBH back in the UK (assault with a deadly weapon).

Suggested jail time (by public prosecutor) was 5 - 10 years.

I have no lawyer, this is the state Vs my attacker.

 

I know his family are wealthy as this court was dealing with violent crimes, and the other 5 cases being tried were brought in wearing leg irons and pink "scrubs" and he could afford bail.

 

Surprised it's got this far, as I wasn't expecting anything.

What's the case number? my lawyer friend wants to check the compensation side. Up to you

[Rimmer]

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[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

How much was the bail?

 

Good to hear you are nearly mended physically, although I suppose you are far more wary on the roads.

Don't know it's state Vs criminal, they don't tell me anything or talk to me now. I get called as a possible witness and that's it.

[Screaming]

One of the thousand reasons I will never get on a motorbike in Thailand. They are a death wish.

[GammaGlobulin]

These days, even walking, I am ten-times more cautious, and try to always remain vigilant listening for, and turning to look at, cars/trucks approaching from behind, as I travel down the left side of the road, facing oncoming traffic.

 

It's a nightmare, and rather scary, to think about being hit from behind either by a drunk, or by some nutcase driving and texting, or just by some distracted driver.

 

I will not say that this is something unique to Thailand.

I think I would be even more fearful about walking in the USA  on roads without "sidewalks", as they call them there.

 

How do I know?

You should listen to one of Stephen King's scariest horror stories....

If you wanna know....

 

So, it can happen here, just as it can happen there.

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

20 minutes ago, Screaming said:

One of the thousand reasons I will never get on a motorbike in Thailand. They are a death wish.

 

Mimicking daft comments as 'Death wish'.... one of the reasons I'll ever accept any such comments has being clever.... 

 

...  Putting a gun to your head and firing it is having a death-wish.

 

Defensively riding a motorcycle around in a safe manner, not drunk, in the day time, while not raining, not speeding and wearing decent gear (at the very least a helmet) is not a death wish...   Its evaluating the risks vs the convenience. 

 

Getting in a car and travelling at 120 kmh on the expressway carries its inherent risk - yet I'm sure you get in a car.... Getting a taxi being driven by someone with an extremely poor education who may be 'under the influence of some substance, booze or narcotic' instead of driving yourself carries inherent risks...   Crossing a road carries an inherent risks that we must evaluate....   

... I think you get the point, but just incase you are missing it... 

... 'Bad stuff' can happen at any time, and riding a motorcycle here certainly cannot be considered a 'safe endeavour'...however, we can minimise the risk such that the risk profile as it applies to ourselves is far far less than the risk profile implied by the stats which includes street racers, drunk riders, speeders, those without helmets, youngsters without experience, those who'll undertake a left turning lorry etc etc....   

 

...  None of that implies that riding is without risk to us 'experienced western riders', but 'death wish' is a throwaway remark which lacks critical thought....   particularly when referenced to an extreme event which is ultimately a 'freak' occurrence....

 

 

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

These days, even walking, I am ten-times more cautious, and try to always remain vigilant listening for, and turning to look at, cars/trucks approaching from behind, as I travel down the left side of the road, facing oncoming traffic.

 

It's a nightmare, and rather scary, to think about being hit from behind either by a drunk, or by some nutcase driving and texting, or just by some distracted driver.

 

I will not say that this is something unique to Thailand.

I think I would be even more fearful about walking in the USA  on roads without "sidewalks", as they call them there.

 

How do I know?

You should listen to one of Stephen King's scariest horror stories....

If you wanna know....

 

So, it can happen here, just as it can happen there.

 

 

 

 

I wasn't too concerned about traffic in the US, even if I had to drive on the wrong side of the road, and remember where to look if I was a pedestrian. For the most part, I found American drivers to be sensible.

 

OTOH, I did not feel comfortable in a country where every police officer was toting a gun. Although it is pretty much the same here.

 

Every time I went to a show or sporting event, I was wondering if a crazy would pop out of the woodwork.

[JeffersLos]

9 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

True, but if you fine locals, who are doing the majority of the bad driving here, you take money away from those that don't have much, and that's the best deterrent. Taking away their scooters would also work as a lesson. Walking isn't fun, especially if you live in the country.

 

9 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The fines are too small to be a deterrent, usually 200 baht.

 

Take someone's scooter away for a month, it probably affects their livelihood.

 

??

 

Do you guys live in Thailand?? Any Thai would have another scooter to use in less than 5 minutes. Moms, dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, sons, daughters, cousins, local pawn shops.............

 

Take their scooter away for a month as punishment.  

 

You guys are hilarious. 

[JeffersLos]

Good luck BMT.

 

I hope he goes to jail over his actions. 

[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

 

 

??

 

Do you guys live in Thailand?? Any Thai would have another scooter to use in less than 5 minutes. Moms, dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, sons, daughters, cousins, local pawn shops.............

 

Take their scooter away for a month as punishment.  

 

You guys are hilarious. 

Then the relatives have to find other transport. Pawn shops are not charitable organisations.

 

There's the inconvenience of having to shell out for tuk-tuks and songthaews.

 

What would you do if you lost your wheels for a month, smartypants?

[connda]

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

But compensation money also reduces the jail time.

I'd prefer my attacker to get maximum jail time.

I don't believe the rich should be allowed to buy their way out of jail.

I'm with you.  Go full-bore Prison Time for attempted murder.  It may not make your arm feel better, but than again?  Maybe it would.

[connda]

10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC you said your attacker was a university lecturer, I didn't know they were that rich.

Status.  Status here in Thailand is as important, and perhaps more important, than having money.  And my guess is that the Uni Lecturer has a massive ego and considers himself to be Hi-So. 

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

There's the inconvenience of having to shell out for tuk-tuks and songthaews.

 

They would have a pick of various family member's scooters within 5 seconds.

 

Thinking that a Thai would suddenly have to rely on tuk-tuks and songtaews if the police took their scooter for a month lol.  You're a great comedian, Lacessit. 👍

[Pattaya57]

I'm still wondering why the OP hasn't come forward with exactly what happened to tip the driver over the edge so he wanted to kill him?

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Pattaya57 said:

I'm still wondering why the OP hasn't come forward with exactly what happened to tip the driver over the edge so he wanted to kill him?

OP did state why ... try to keep up 

[mdr224]

Stories like this one makes me think twice about living there. Whatever punishment the guy gets wont be enough. Foreigners have no rights

[Nick Carter icp]

26 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Stories like this one makes me think twice about living there. Whatever punishment the guy gets wont be enough. Foreigners have no rights

 

   Why do foreigners have no rights ?

The car driver is being prosecuted , what more rights should you have ?

[fredwiggy]

7 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

 

??

 

Do you guys live in Thailand?? Any Thai would have another scooter to use in less than 5 minutes. Moms, dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, sons, daughters, cousins, local pawn shops.............

 

Take their scooter away for a month as punishment.  

 

You guys are hilarious. 

I live here, and see what's going on, and yes, many times they'll have more scooters in the family. Some might only have one or two, and not able to use one indefinitely. But this is where a larger fine works better. And if caught driving while suspended or revoked, because of driving without a license or insurance, the fines go up, and another scooter is impounded. This happens if the police are using computers and actually enforcing laws, which this is all about anyway.

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

They would have a pick of various family member's scooters within 5 seconds.

 

Thinking that a Thai would suddenly have to rely on tuk-tuks and songtaews if the police took their scooter for a month lol.  You're a great comedian, Lacessit. 👍

You're assuming each and every Thai has family ties which would enable the borrowing of a scooter within 5 seconds. Statistically, that's nonsense.

 

AFAIK most of the people using tuktuks and songtaews are Thai. You think those vehicles are solely for foreigners?

 

Happy you are amused, You've reminded me of the small minds aphorism.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

12 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

They would have a pick of various family member's scooters within 5 seconds.

 

Thinking that a Thai would suddenly have to rely on tuk-tuks and songtaews if the police took their scooter for a month lol.  You're a great comedian, Lacessit. 👍

You're assuming each and every Thai has family ties which would enable the borrowing of a scooter within 5 seconds. Statistically, that's nonsense.

 

AFAIK most of the people using tuktuks and songtaews are Thai. You think those vehicles are solely for foreigners?

 

Happy you are amused, You've reminded me of the small minds aphorism.

 

The argument attempting to nullify the value of 'confiscation of a vehicle' as a penalty is also flawed from a 'basic human' perspective...  If someone gets their scooter confiscated, whether they have use of alternative means of transport or not, the confiscation itself is a massive inconvenience and annoyance which is the objective of such actions to stimulate preventative measures. 

 

[BritManToo]

Update

Sitting outside the courtroom right now, not really sure what's going on, will find out soon. Hopefully this will be the end of it.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Update

Sitting outside the courtroom right now, not really sure what's going on, will find out soon. Hopefully this will be the end of it.

 

   You was in collision with a car whilst you were on your motorbike when driving back from immigration .

   The cars driver is being prosecuting for driving offences and that is why you are in Court .

You were in hospital for a while and suffered from a memory loss

[FruitPudding]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Update

Sitting outside the courtroom right now, not really sure what's going on, will find out soon. Hopefully this will be the end of it.

 

Why did it end up in court??

 

Did the driver not take responsibility at the police station?

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

3 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Why did it end up in court??

 

Did the driver not take responsibility at the police station?

 

Serious bodily harm is a criminal offence, not up to the police or me what happens.

[FruitPudding]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Serious bodily harm is a criminal offence, not up to the police or me what happens.

 

I know, but reckless driving causing injury to others doesn't need to go to court unless there are other factors (e.g. he/she didn't admit guilt and accept fine and pay compensation to victim at police station to close the case). 

 

EDIT: Just realised it was a hit n run. Maybe that's why it's in court.

[hotsun]

Would be nice to know if the guy got jail time

[KhunLA]

34 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

I know, but reckless driving causing injury to others doesn't need to go to court unless there are other factors (e.g. he/she didn't admit guilt and accept fine and pay compensation to victim at police station to close the case). 

 

EDIT: Just realised it was a hit n run. Maybe that's why it's in court.

Try to keep up, he admitted intentionally hitting him, that's attempted murder in my book,

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Try to keep up, he admitted intentionally hitting him, that's attempted murder in my book,

 

  We need to hear the other side of the story first