How To Include A Foreigners Name In Tabian Ban?

[sas_cars]

I wanna know about the steps to include a foreigners name in a house registration document (tabian ban).If someone knows the details about it,it would be greatly appreciated

[Richard Hall]

Basically, I think there are only two ways to get this done:

1. You are either the legal owner of a condo and proof this by providing the purchasing contract and the proper paperwork of ownership

2. You hold permanent residency status

In both cases approach the amphoe in charge with the proper paperwork.

If none of the above obviously a foreigner is not not qualified.

[sas_cars]

Basically, I think there are only two ways to get this done:

1. You are either the legal owner of a condo and proof this by providing the purchasing contract and the proper paperwork of ownership

2. You hold permanent residency status

In both cases approach the amphoe in charge with the proper paperwork.

If none of the above obviously a foreigner is not not qualified.

i already knew about it.But yesterday i read in a thread in which some foreigners mentioning some other legal ways to have their name included in tabian ban.They were mentioning that they built a home on a land owned by their wife,and on the house registration book,they could have their name as owner of the house.Means foreigners can own a house,but can not own the land on which the house is built.something like that.so I wanna know the details about this theory.

[ProThaiExpat]

Perhaps a knowledgeable person can explain what the purpose of a Tabian Ban is and if aliens are treated differently than Thais in regard to registering them as a resident in the household, regardless of their immigration status.

[sas_cars]

Yeah,hope someone who knows the details about it passes this thread by soon.

[ProThaiExpat]

My Thai called a friend that works in the Mae Rim Amphur to confirm the belief that all residents of a household may be included in the Tabian Ban.

Report back was that this lady had included many farang on tabian ban to date but she would check with her boss on Monday as to the legal technicalities and would get back to us.

Will report when more information available.

[sas_cars]

I think so.i think the better information will be available at the amphur office.

[sas_cars]

If it's possible,i will be the first guy to enter the amphur to register myself in the tabian ban while it opens in the morning.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Perhaps a knowledgeable person can explain what the purpose of a Tabian Ban is and if aliens are treated differently than Thais in regard to registering them as a resident in the household, regardless of their immigration status.

Its prime purpose is to gather statistical information on Thai population. But it is ineffective in my view.

[sas_cars]

Dr.PP,do u know any information regarding including a foreigner's name in tabian baan?

[Thetyim]

I am not sure about this but I have been told that the first listed name is the house owner and the following names are only occupiers.

[sas_cars]

I don't mind even being an occupier just let me go in the tabian baan book .

[mijan24]

The first name is not necessarily the owner.

If the residence changes hands then the new owner is noted as that in the rear section.

The amphur in Nonthaburi stated that there is no provision to enter a farang in the blue Tabian Baan.

[omlagus]

My Thai called a friend that works in the Mae Rim Amphur to confirm the belief that all residents of a household may be included in the Tabian Ban.

Get married.........have a baby!

My wife's from Udon and we rent a house in Surat. Before our son was born she asked the lady who owns the property if we could borrow her 'Tabien Baan' to register for the 30B scheme. No problems. When our son was born and she changed her family name to my name we borrowed the 'Tabien Baan' again, and this time all our names are included as i am the father of the child. Once again, no problems.

How does this effect me? Upto now, it's made absolutely no difference.

So, what are the pro's and cons of having your name on the 'Tabien Baan'?

[Sunbelt Asia]

Any person can register any type of building in their name with the land office under Thai law, the foreigner can own the structure (for example a house) erected on the land. Certainty of possession of land and house is assured by being the owner of the house. If arranged as above then the house will be separate from the land, and will not be a component part under the Civil Law. Ownership of buildings can be established with the land office and the Lessor cannot seize the house upon expiration of the lease.

Buildings other than condominiums do not have any form of title document, but their sale or long lease can be registered at the Amphur (district) land office. Proof of ownership, must be established either from proof of construction or a document showing sale-purchase (do not confuse this with the House License document, which is only a register of the house occupants).

Transfer of a building, as distinct from its land, requires the posting of 30 days public notice (to see if anyone wishes to contest the ownership). Again just to confirm this, foreign nationals (aliens) may own any building (as distinct from its land) and may register such transfer of ownership into their names at the local district office.

www.property.th.com

[john b good]

Basically, I think there are only two ways to get this done:

1. You are either the legal owner of a condo and proof this by providing the purchasing contract and the proper paperwork of ownership

2. You hold permanent residency status

In both cases approach the amphoe in charge with the proper paperwork.

If none of the above obviously a foreigner is not not qualified.

According to my lawyer (Thai) it is possible to have your name included in the Tha Bien Baan (TBB) and not necessarily be the legal owner of the condominium nor have PR status.

I was in the process of getting it done when I was advised (due to a technicality in respect of the change of ownership of the unit) that it might complicate things.

He further said that I could have my name included in his Tha Bien Baan if I wished.

ProThaExpat asked....

Perhaps a knowledgeable person can explain what the purpose of a Tabian Ban is and if aliens are treated differently than Thais in regard to registering them as a resident in the household, regardless of their immigration status.

There are one or two advantages as if you want to but a car, install a telephone ++etc., and your name is on the TBB you don't have to go traipsing off to immigration for a letter every time.

There are probably disadvantages too but I am not aware of what they are. (but there has gotta be disadvantages hasn't there?)

[sas_cars]

can someone clarify it a little bit.What is the procedure to have my name included as just the occupant of a house?i.e. i don't wanna be the owner of the house in the tabian baan?

[omlagus]

can someone clarify it a little bit.What is the procedure to have my name included as just the occupant of a house?i.e. i don't wanna be the owner of the house in the tabian baan?

My wife (who is Thai) and i, and our newborn son all have our names on the 'Tabien Baan' as occupants of the house we rent. All she did was take down our marriage cert. and our sons birth cert. to the local 'Amphur' and all is "hunky dory". If your not married or legaally married then i'm not sure because i only know farangs who are legallly married with their names on the 'Tabien Baan'.

[sas_cars]

I am single.But having the same family name as the house owner,(my aunt thai citizen who is married to my real uncle i.e. same family name) . I live with my uncle and aunt in the same house.Can i register myself in the tabian ban as occupant?

[Sunbelt Asia]

ANYBODY can own a building in Thailand. You do not have to be a permanent resident or have a work permit. You can simply have a tourist visa and register the ownership of the building at the Amphur (district) land office.

www.property.th.com

[sas_cars]

Does this just apply for a building?or applies for a house as well?just being an occupant in the house to get the tabian ban showing our name in it.

[paulfr]

ANYBODY can own a building in Thailand. You do not have to be a permanent resident or have a work permit. You can simply have a tourist visa and register the ownership of the building at the Amphur (district) land office.

You mean it is just land that farangs are prohibited from owning ??

Is a lease to use the land for 30 years recognized in Thai

courts of law ? And is this a proven way for a farang to

build and "own" a home ??

[Sunbelt Asia]

You mean it is just land that farangs are prohibited from owning ??

Yes only the land.

Is a lease to use the land for 30 years recognized in Thai

courts of law ?

Yes

And is this a proven way for a farang to

build and "own" a home ??

You own the house so no need for a lease on the house. You just have a 30 year lease on the land( or a company you control owns the land) You register this all at the Land department. If it wasn't legal they wouldn't allow it.

www.property.th.com

[sas_cars]

Thanks Greg.You really explained in a really good manner.one last question,my aunt is the owner of the house,what is the procedure for me to enter in the tabian ban as an occupant?

[sas_cars]

long time no body replied. I still didn't know what do i have to produce at the amphur to have me as an occupant of my aunt's house with the same family name

[Sunbelt Asia]

All of our lawyers are out of the office for lunch so I'll take a poke at this. I'll surmise a copy of your passport signed and your Aunt goes down with you to the Amphur to register you as an occupant.

Disclaimer: This is only an educated guess.

www.sunbeltasia.com

[omlagus]

If you have a Thai drivers licence it works just as good as your passport, if not better! It 's got all the info they could possibly need. Take this along with your aunt and the 'Tabian Baan' to the 'Amphur' and unless they are 'Gestapo' you shouldn't have any problems.

Best ov luck!

[Dutchy2]

I wanna know about the steps to include a foreigners name in a house registration document (tabian ban).If someone knows the details about it,it would be greatly appreciated

Get your wife/girlfriend to take you to the local city hall to register you as former illegal laborer. They do not not ask IDs from Burmese, Laotians and Cambodians, so you should be fine. They will not bother about visas at all, you'll be registered as your wifes maid and will receive permission to stay one year in the Kingdom. Your name will be added to the Tabian Ban..

That's how it works for the beforementioned nationalities, as we all know, there's no discrimination or whatsoever on nationality in Thailand so give it a try!

Dutchy

[sas_cars]

dutchy!!WHAT? pardon me,i m not an illegal laborer as well as i don't belong to any of the nationalities u mentioned.I m legally working and holding a work permit.

[Bobcat]

I purchased a condo in Bangkok a couple of years ago and tried to get a Blue Tabian Baan book. I went to the local district office and was told that I could get a Yellow Tabian Baan book (expecially for foreigners) but not a Blue one (which is what the Thai people get). I was told I would be only able to aply for a Blue Tabian Baan once I had PR.